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Classical music and psychedelics

kidklmx

kidklmx

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I recently discovered how insanely nice this combination is. I'm really in to electronic music, and I always thought that that was "it" as far as feeling goes, but this is just beyond. I was way past the peak, yet still my experience just exploded as the music went on. No thinking, just being/feeling. I put on one of the CDs my dad has in some freak idea, Henryck Goreci (spelling?), but wow. Most emotional moment of my life for sure. Was wondering if anyone has some musical suggestions? Or something else to share?

(Might be better suited for Non-Electronic Music? Sorry then)

p.s If this comes off as snobbery bs, then think again. I've never really been into this stuff my entire life
 
Classical is so calming and soothing when I'm peaking. I personally and fond of Richard Wagner's work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGU1P6lBW6Q

Over played song I know but its amazing on the peak. I've flown through the air and watched world war 3 break out below me....nukes going off everywhere during the crescendo of that song. :)

Just about anything by him is good. :)
 
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Shockwave... What is this, 2003?

Kidding aside, I've def. found a nice topic of interest for my forthcoming trips. Thanks!

@HeadphonesandLSD Haha I love how you say "amazing" and then go describe images of war
 
kidklmx said:
Shockwave... What is this, 2003?

Kidding aside, I've def. found a nice topic of interest for my forthcoming trips. Thanks!

@HeadphonesandLSD Haha I love how you say "amazing" and then go describe images of war
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Well I should have finished maybe...after the world wide war the few survivors re-built a peaceful society. :) Its hard to explain...lots went on that night. It was my first time experiencing full on dissociation so I wasn't really in control or guiding the trip, just "flying through space" and watching CEVs that were driven by the music. :)

Thinking back I was actually watching the evolution of man kind. Everything from us rising out of the water and learning to walk to separating from our animal roots and building cities. We got so powerful, that we destroyed ourselves over petty differences. It was a cleansing...kinda like the great flood in the Bible. The survivors were spared to go on and build society again with the hope that maybe this time we'll manage to get it right. :)

Thanks for your reply, I had forgotten a little of that trip and you helped me remember it. I should have written it down the day after like I was planning to but I never did. :(
 
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Well that's a good end. I do get the awe though, especially on a tune like that!

It's a shame drugs aren't really accepted in the classical community. Would be lovely to just go to a concert and sit there (all those sober/straight people can be scary)
 
I once had the glorious idea to listen to sibelius's symphony #7 for a dmt breakthrough. it felt so extremely disintegrating that I absolutely had to change the music in the midst of the trip (it must have been really uncomfortable if it made me try to understand and handle this completely alien and incomprehensible device which is my laptop... ;) ). so ime really deep experiences need no music at all or music with a straight beat or real ambient stuff like 'carbon based lifeforms'.
sibelius on dmt felt like the different layers of melody and instruments and tones and rhythms were just ripping out different parts of my ego to throw them around...plain chaos.
 
The Goldberg Variations are my favorite, I can play most of it now.

Also I am trying to compose my own extra variation, strangely enough most of it sounds Mozartesque but of course not at par.
My favorite electronica artist Kettel has also created a Goldberg variation, I just discovered tonight. You can listen it here as one of his unreleased materials: http://kettel.bandcamp.com/track/my-goldberg-variation-2012
I think that is awesome!

I recorded this from Das Wohltemperiertes Klavier half jokingly... perfecting all that stuff is a bitch!

Also I like the very last fugue from "Die Kunst der Fuge", Bach died while writing it... it also sounds kind of sad.

I like different genres of music for different reasons, some of them are not beautiful but intellectually challenging (complex) and interesting for other reasons. Other genres may mostly sound 'fat' or cool.
But I find classical music (or baroque or romantic) to be the most purely beautiful and I think there is something mature to it... not getting distracted by what might be 'cool'. Of course I don't mean that other genres cannot be beautiful. ;)

Chopin can also be very nice and I highly recommend Mendelssohn's "Romance sans paroles" !

But I prefer Bach over all else, I also seem to be made for it and can't play many other composer's works worth a shit. But that might not only be a reason for but also a reason OF not playing them. : P

Debussy is alright, I wanted to learn Clair de Lune but soon gave up wanting to invest my time in the other things I mentioned.
 
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There is a lot of good classical music out there.. in fact, its my favourite to listen to when the trips mellow out... thres a complecity and richness of story that are rarely found in more electronic types of music, which are more about achieving a trancelike state than anything else...

anyway, you should also try to listen to Max Richter's work - Vivaldi recomposed. Its awesome to say the least. a mix of old and new to create somehting utterly beautiful.
 
kidklmx said:
I recently discovered how insanely nice this combination is. I'm really in to electronic music, and I always thought that that was "it" as far as feeling goes, but this is just beyond. I was way past the peak, yet still my experience just exploded as the music went on. No thinking, just being/feeling. I put on one of the CDs my dad has in some freak idea, Henryck Goreci (spelling?), but wow. Most emotional moment of my life for sure. Was wondering if anyone has some musical suggestions? Or something else to share?

(Might be better suited for Non-Electronic Music? Sorry then)

p.s If this comes off as snobbery bs, then think again. I've never really been into this stuff my entire life
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Just get on a nice heavy peak, and put on some Echoes by Pink Floyd. Or anything powerful by Zeppelin. Hendrix as well. Honestly, it's a stereotype I know, but that era of music is made for acid in a beautiful way.

I've been meaning to get my girlfriend to show me some beautiful classical pieces on LSD one day. The time will come, I tend appreciate it sober.
 
Some highlights from the last few months:

* Berg: Piano Sonata, Op. 1 [Barenboim]

* Debussy: La Mer [Boulez/Cleveland Orchestra]

* Ives: Symphony No. 4 [Thomas/Chicago Symphony Orchestra and Chorus]

* Leifs: Hekla, Op. 52 [Shao/Iceland Symphony Orchestra/Schola Cantorum]

* Ligeti: San Francisco Polyphony [Nott/Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra]

* Prokofiev: Symphony No. 3 in C minor, Op. 44 [Chailly/Concertgebouw Orchestra]

* Schoenberg: Verklarte Nacht, Op. 4 (original version for string sextet) [Schoenberg Ensemble]

* Varese: Arcana [Chailly/Concertgebouw Orchestra]

These pieces demand a good stereo and focused listening. A "deep" psychedelic that truly enhances (rather than disfigure) the cognition of sound is optional, but highly recommended.
 
Keep the recommendations coming! Skimming through them as we speak. Would like to add that THIS is the piece that got me so far.

Lamanogaucha, don't worry, I have good (anything that's not from Monster) headphones. The audio quality is very important to me, though I wouldn't call myself an audiophile. There's a limit to what I'll pay for quality gear.

Any word on what psychedelic enhances the listening experience the most?
 
Kidklmx, Gorecki (pronounced "Gor-ET-skee") is a pretty good Polish composer. Other fine(er) 20th century Polish composers that may be of interest to you are Szymanowski, Lutoslawski and Penderecki.

Good headphones are fine but a quiet listening environment is very important; you don't want extraneous sound seeping through the cans.

I generally prefer tryptamines, but for bona fide sound enhancement, phenethylamines work better (at least for me). 2C-T-7 is especially great for this purpose, but 2C-D, 2C-E and 2C-T-2 are quite fine as well. As far as tryptamines go, avoid all 5-MeO's and diisopropyl variants; the rest are decent for serious listening sessions, but just so.
 
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