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Childhood trauma and LSD use

Mathew12

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I need someone's opinion on this.
I was physically and emotionally abused as a kid, by both my parents and my friends and I have almost always had problems(by problems I mean anxiety and insecurity) socially in my life. Fear of being alone, of losing friends etc.

I can clearly recall times I would go alone to school, and I would arrive like 10 minutes before the doors would open. There was this railing right in front on the building and my classroom, and every time I would arrive and there were people there I would be really anxious and afraid of rejection and them laughing of me. So sometimes I would stop 5-6 meters away, standing, crossing my hands in front of me, bend my head down and basically wait till they would call on me, or say something like "hey Mathew what u doin?". Though this was 6 years ago.

Often when I would bring up problems I had in school regarding my anything really, anxiety, fights etc, my parents would very often twist my feelings around and say that my feelings are ridiculous and whatever, now the biggest problem is that everytime I would act with some sort of individualism, and deny something they would ask of me, they would bring up those emotional issues I had told them and twist them even more in their own favor so I would do what they would ask of me. After years of doing that to me, I never tell them about any of my emotional problems to them anymore, I stick to forums now or myself.

Worth mentioning, before both of these incidents all the way back to age 6 and 7, I would very often get beaten by my parents, they weren't dipsomaniacs, but since I was the first child I guess they couldn't deal with me other ways. Since we moved multiple times from age 3-6, my mom would experience periods of depression she told me ones, and would be on meds(light ones).

Ones I brought up the subject of beating to my father, he would tell me that my mother would slam me on the wall to make me stop crying, I dont know how old I was then, but light enough to be lifted my mother, so probably 3-4 years I guess.
My father would also use a lot of "boxing" to teach me stuff when my brother and I would fight.
Also I would have this OCD so to speak where I had to ask new people if we were friends so I could feel safe in the enviroment I guess.

I am basically asking you guys if LSD can help me with my childhood trauma, problems, anxiety.
thank you.
 
I was also abused and neglected as a child. In some ways psychedelics have given me some insights on what was done to me, but I've also had many trips where I was overcome with bitterness and suicidal despair over how I was treated. I think LSD would be pretty hit-or-miss for this purpose, and MDMA might be a better choice, it has more of track record of being used in therapy for treating PTSD.
 
We can't really answer that. Facing childhood and even recent issues can be quite shocking and scary on psychs. Personally, I've experienced extreme anxiety on both LSD and mushrooms due to feeling bad that my girlfriend is simply extremely depressed and I can do nothing to help her, or feeling that I had no plans for after college and was going no where in life. These issues don't even sound as traumatic as yours; however, they were only bothersome in the come-up on these drugs. Once my ego was dissolved and the drug peaked/came down, I felt complete senses of calm and clarity and oneness. So maybe it could help you overcome these issues. But be careful. Facing them may be terrifying.
 
Hi Mathew, welcome to PD / BL! :)

Sorry to hear about your problems and what happened in your childhood, how old are you now?

I take it that you are still suffering from anxiety and other mental issues, you made that implicit. Are you receiving help / therapy in any way and how would you say is that going generally?

Psychedelics like LSD can be used for psycholytic therapy but there is typically a guide to help the patient through problems that surface. To what capacity this guide has professional authority or credentials may vary but needless to say he should be experienced and equipped to deal with various kinds of deep-rooted crises that people may have.
It will probably be difficult to find such a guide, without one the results of taking a psychedelic can be very unpredictable. Basically you can expect all the pain and anguish to come to the surface of your psyche and experience, if you are unguided there is no saying whether you now have the capacity to see things in a different light and might spontaneously come to find acceptance or other helpful resorts. If not it may just traumatize you again and leave you more disturbed.
Sometimes people do find help in the experience itself, they may have spiritual or psychological revelations. But it is very risky to rely on that happening, and I strongly recommend that you make sure you are prepared for another outcome. Best of all by having someone present who can "bring you down", and basically do very condensed therapy with you.. and in doing so is able to very much increase the chance that you will at some point have a positive breakthrough.

So basically the answer is no, unless you can meet a set of "requirements" to make it reasonably protected, guided and responsible.

Please be careful and don't do anything reckless.
 
Hi,

while I never experienced anything like that, I have some memories that could be considered bad.

First, when I was a kid my grandfather used to take me for walks on some local hills. I really loved that and he was my favorite grandparent. He died when I was about 20 from complications of Alzheimer's disease (terrible way to go, you don't want this to happen to you or anyone you care about). I've visited the same places while tripping a few times and it always brought back good memories.

Then there is my cat... when she was a kitten she got terribly injured, there was a big chance she'd die or suffer permanent brain damage from it. Well luckily the vets were awesome and not only saved her but rebuild her shattered joint so now she's like 99.9%. I love tripping with her, again, only good memories come up.

Then there was this ex who fucked me up by how she left, felt really shitty for a long time because of it. Now I do all my benzofuran flip tests in the park where we used to hang out. Doesn't even enter my head.

There was some bullying in kindergarten, but I don't really remember and later I was one of the bigger dudes and had no problems with hitting an asshole so the bullies rather picked on others
 
Hi Solipsis, black, 240, and zn, thanks :)

I am 18, and our relationship is for me personally quite strange, especially with my father when it comes to physical contact.
It's easier physically with my mother, but regarding emotions I sort of don't wish for emotional help from none of them, at least not the deep ones, when they arise.

I don't know how they feel about me, regarding trust, or how their connection is with me, but I guess they maybe think that our relationship is GOOD, though I do tend to force communication and connection with them, to make it seem like I am comfortable around them.

We do have legitimate laughters, and we do hug and kiss, etc, but, trust is sort of gone.

I assume the distance in physical contact with my father comes from the fear of him hitting me - even though he hasn't hit me in like 2 years, the discomfort being physically hurt lies in the back of my head when he puts his arm around me, or when I sit next to him. It's quite easy to imagine the feeling you get down your spine when he tells me to "get over there".

My mother had a breakdown a long time ago when I was younger and made a promise to me to never hit me again when I was like 10 or 12 or something, and I am much closer with her, at least when we joke around and stuff.

We eat dinner together, we go on hikes together, vacations, we laugh, we hug etc, but as I mentioned earlier there is just this lack of trust which I really can't repair. Maybe I don't even want to. It was especially last year in my 1 first year of high school that i had some serious issues, where the emotional distance was seriously strengthened.

Anxiety has always been an underlying problem for me, not that it necessarily has to be linked to my childhood, but I can see connections on how I was raised and how and where I grew up. As I have already said they weren't alcoholics, they didn't beat me broken and blue, but I did have marks on my arms and feet. That gives you enough information. Nor has the anxiety been severely intense, as a matter of fact it diminishes quite quickly when I am around people and after a couple of minutes of talking or interacting, it's not really that serious.

The more serious problem is my problem with relationships, social interactions, both platonic and romantic. I don't know if I am allowed to draw these kind of conclusions, but my lack of trust towards my primary guardians has caused me to every time I befriend someone I tend to prefer being very intimate, to avoid being left alone, to avoid being vulnerable and unsafe.
Individualism for me is really scary, if I base myself solely on myself then I am alone, and I am then supposed to love myself, I do adore myself, but acting like one self sufficient, confident individual has always been very hard for me. Not that I don't want to.

I seek reassurance with friends, even my parents to this day, and my girlfriend, and it shouldn't be necessary to the extent I take it. When I feel the need for assurance I keep it in, and wait for it to fade.

Trust in relationships is important, but trust is really a problem for me, you see where I am going.
A living example is my younger brother who was very rarely/never beaten, never moved, isn't specifically anxious, and his "opening up" was never exploited. He is very different from me socially.
Maybe that is why I used to cope with the shit I was given from people.
 
ok ill chip in..

I went through hell as a kid at home and in school

imo you may get overwhelemed with lsd you should ease your way in as ive been doing....2c-b is fucking unreal so start low with this shit bro since you have history of negativity stuck in your mind
 
hm. any reason lsd is specifically more overwhelming than 2c-b?
mind me asking if you personally have experienced something fucked up when you tripped on acid regarding what you went through.
 
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would it be wise to drop let`s say 150uG as a first time trip alone in a nice setting, with some music, with the childhood trauma/anxiety/negativity problem in the back of my head and see where the trip goes from there.
I imagine I would do some thinking on why I am so anxious and afraid of being alone, why am I so lacking in self-esteem and confidence.
Or could this lead to a bad trip? please comment.
 
First off childhood trauma can effect the use of any psychedelic good and bad.

Watch this documentary about Ayahuasca: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0ommNRJeMQ
I don't know if this is the exact video but the main guy in the video who set up Aya ceremonies in SA treats a woman who was raped and tortured as a young girl. If someone has that link throw it up.

It's all in your mind, you can either use the drug to get over the past or it can trigger powerful feelings you may not be able to control.

Pretty much you need to do it right. Set and setting.

BTW I am not saying AYA and LSD are the same drugs however on high doses they will be similar when battling emotions from the past both very powerful.
 
I understand that.
Im interesting in finding the reason of my anxiety and insecurity, for all I know maybe it is not because of my parents.
I am sick of constantly needing reassurance, my anxiety and insecurity.
I always need to anchor myself to someone, so I know I am safe, which my parents didnt give me when I was younger, so I seek that safe spot through friends, but that is way to much to ask for.
I want to relax, and resolve this issue of mine, and move on.

Well I cant really know, so I guess Ill just have to find out.
I imagine that I could keep the control on 150uG alone.
Ill have fun and analyze my childhood, but I am afraid that if I make ridiculous connections on LSD, which Ive heard can happen, I may get delusional.
 
Honestly, I feel LSD is useless unless done in a decent quantity. Otherwise you just get a feeling of being trapped in time. It doesn't move forward lol. I'm drunk right now, sorry I can't give more detail.

I always do three doses (whatever that may be) and that usually takes me to a point where I feel like my mind has expanded to the size of the universe. Honestly, I'd look to empathogens for getting over your issues, LSD is more like.... I dunno. Finding God in my experience. Others may disagree. When I've done LSD, it's like I feel like I've tapped into the universal consciousness; all of a sudden I know where my place is in life, the self ceases to exist. Idk if that will help you realize anxiety is pointless. It helps me at times, but now I'm over a year removed from my last LSD trip and I have bad anxiety again.
 
I'm not so sure if the treatment is dependent entirely how much a person takes as opposed to the environment the person takes it in. If a person is free to explore and tackle issues such as abuse without any persecution or alienation while on a psychedelic I feel they will be much more successful than if they do too much and become overwhelmed.

Personally I have sought some relief from the emotions built up from abuses I suffered as a child, and have even located the exact moment in my childhood where my social anxiety and performance anxiety originated. This allowed me to explore why I behaved/reacted the way I did, why these behaviours persisted for years, and ultimately accept that I am who I am because of these events, that I love who I am, and that I can change any behaviours/thoughts that I find undesirable.

As for my abuse, there was a lot of anger before acceptance, and depending on my mood I can still get upset from thinking about it so I haven't overcome it completely yet (and this is over the course of ~6 years of psychedelic experimentation) but I am certainly in a better place because of it.

I hate that I still feel like it is wrong to recommend psychedelics to others who have suffered some form of trauma in their lives, due to the potential for things to go from bad to worse. It's difficult to remind myself of the clearly documented therapeutic uses of these powerful tools when living in a society so saturated by "Drugs are bad, mmmkay".

Clarification Edit: As mentioned, you need a guide for these experiences (one who will help you achieve what you want and will not distract or disturb you). Also, it is important to view the psychedelic experience not as something that is true, but as a new perspective you will temporarily be in-tune with from which you can gain some knowledge or insight. You will likely not become delusional unless you have some predispostion to psychosis or if you are on other medications which are contraindicated.
 
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I understand that.
Im interesting in finding the reason of my anxiety and insecurity, for all I know maybe it is not because of my parents.
I am sick of constantly needing reassurance, my anxiety and insecurity.
I always need to anchor myself to someone, so I know I am safe, which my parents didnt give me when I was younger, so I seek that safe spot through friends, but that is way to much to ask for.
I want to relax, and resolve this issue of mine, and move on.

Well I cant really know, so I guess Ill just have to find out.
I imagine that I could keep the control on 150uG alone.
Ill have fun and analyze my childhood, but I am afraid that if I make ridiculous connections on LSD, which Ive heard can happen, I may get delusional.

Yo- 150mcg is a fine dose and probably very pleasant to experience alone, and LSD can break social barriers for instance your need for attachment. Always test your product and make sure you have actual LSD. There are emotions to gain from the experience and defeating fear is BEAUTIFUL!

Honestly, I feel LSD is useless unless done in a decent quantity. Otherwise you just get a feeling of being trapped in time. It doesn't move forward lol. I'm drunk right now, sorry I can't give more detail.

I always do three doses (whatever that may be) and that usually takes me to a point where I feel like my mind has expanded to the size of the universe. Honestly, I'd look to empathogens for getting over your issues, LSD is more like.... I dunno. Finding God in my experience. Others may disagree. When I've done LSD, it's like I feel like I've tapped into the universal consciousness; all of a sudden I know where my place is in life, the self ceases to exist. Idk if that will help you realize anxiety is pointless. It helps me at times, but now I'm over a year removed from my last LSD trip and I have bad anxiety again.


I'll give this guy a break because he is drunk.

No one can ever tell you what your LSD tolerance should be and it is NOT pointless from 80mcg on up. Tabs range from 0-200+mcg there is no way someone here can say " take 3 tabs " the op is right 150mcg should be the perfect amount for a new user.
 
Ill have fun and analyze my childhood, but I am afraid that if I make ridiculous connections on LSD, which Ive heard can happen, I may get delusional.
This is a very insightful fear to have.
Take an unknown quantity of what may or may not be LSD which may or may not be able to help people.

Sounds perfect. Maybe next you should go kayaking in a newspaper into the grand canyon.
You will likely not become delusional unless you have some predispostion to psychosis or if you are on other medications which are contraindicated.
As always, I am real real interested to know how people know this.

Matthew,

It sounds like you have a combination of issues and are also a bit gifted I see. I think you can recognize that despite your childhood trauma you need to not rely on others to support you.

Not everyone lives in a safe community and they learn who they can trust and how they can protect themselves by staying cautious of their surroundings. So it is normal and healthy behavior from everything I have read.

Sooner or later everyone gets hurt, it is a part of life which you can avoid if you never enjoy the worthwhile experiences. It is a bitter-sweet pain. I am sure you feel this with your parents and it all seems like normal healthy reaction.

You are merely self-conscious and care more about others' emotions than they probably really care about yours. Since people are just easily satisfied and worrying about others is not on the list.

Your parents sound amicable to talking and I can't believe the circumstances you are in, I believe you of course, but just make the best of it. I think 50% of your problem is you are 18 and need to go through the process of adulthood. Your parents need to grow with you, and life is just messy right now. You'll be fine. There are a few 18-20 year olds who I know that are dealing with the same awkward feelings. If you just stick with it eventually you'll be a much happier person, whatever you decide to do.
 
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Yo- 150mcg is a fine dose and probably very pleasant to experience alone, and LSD can break social barriers for instance your need for attachment. Always test your product and make sure you have actual LSD. There are emotions to gain from the experience and defeating fear is BEAUTIFUL!




I'll give this guy a break because he is drunk.

No one can ever tell you what your LSD tolerance should be and it is NOT pointless from 80mcg on up. Tabs range from 0-200+mcg there is no way someone here can say " take 3 tabs " the op is right 150mcg should be the perfect amount for a new user.
My bad. I was just talking about my experience, which could be drastically different from others.
 
I think its like playing Russian Roulette with psychedelics in your situation.

I would definitely go with MDMA - it would let you accept (not that they are in any way acceptable, but they are done and theres nothing that can be done to change that) the things done to you and looking at them without fear.

 
Regarding what I have being LSD or not: I've done a DMAB test and it's most likely the actual chemical, I can't do much more to ensure that what I have is actually LSD.
Regarding the quantity, i'll just have to trust the dealer on that one.

As you said: "Drugs are bad, mmmkay". that explains why I can't really have any sitter, nobody I consider a friend is something else than brainwashed and negative towards druggies, so is my girlfriend, but I guess they would probably do me the favor, but I want to do this alone.

MDMA, you say? I don't really have that at hand atm, but if that is a much better substance to abuse, I'll have to acquire that somehow.
How big of a deal is the neurotoxicity with mdma(
http://dancesafe.org/drug-information/ecstasy-slideshow), I assume that for a molly virgin we are talking very little here, and I don't plan on taking it every week, nor month.
I've read a couple of trip reports on mdma and many say the comedown is horseshit. Should I be taking some 5-htp prior to that?
There's also these stories on people who went into coma because their body temperature was too high? Just scare tactics to keep public away I guess though.

So I understand that MDMA makes me love everything, want to cuddle and kiss and love etc, but I can't at all imagine that now while sober.
If MDMA makes me accept trauma and anxiety dissipates, while LSD brings out inner fears. Would candyflipping be a good idea then?
 
http://rollsafe.org/ <- MDMA harm reduction guide. But I don't think anyone needs to worry about supplements and stuff when taking it for the first time, just keeping hydrated and dosing right. You should check out bluelight MDMA & Empathogenic Drugs board, theres a lot of useful information for your first time.

You should definitely try MDMA by itself before combining it with anything. It can really be a life changing experince in so many ways.
 
Talk to a therapist or counselor and if you have anxiety or depression don't take LSD or other drugs as they're not going to help and may make things worse for you.
 
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