ahh loud noises lol... @monchhichi i think that quote that you copied from itchy's post was more directed towards me since i was commenting on how many posts there were in just a few days that i didn't check the thread. I had also wrote in my thread on like what I planned to do to keep my tolerance low and some ideas I came up with while in detox. As a side note - I've heard many people say DXM has helped keep their tolerance low but this seems more effective for people that like pop vicodins, perhaps percs and snort h every so often... i don't think dxm is going to keep an individuals tolerance low if he or she is shooting up daily...
@woa - I thought I read this correctly - you are getting your subs through your IOP? Are they free through IOP? I wonder if it's the same place I went to a few weeks back - it was in Des Plaines. A couple weeks ago I was at a certain doctor/clinic place that like doesprimary care but also addiction medicine like on the other side of the office has like a mini methadone/suboxone clinic. Their patients are a mix of elderly people going there for primary care but their money maker appears the addiction medicine side of the office.
Anyway, once they found out I had bomb insurance, they tried to get me to sign up to their lil program because I would get my subs for free. I explained taht I did not want to do that as the entire reason why I wanted to try subs is because I had been on methadone 2 years and was getting sick of spending an hour almost every day driving to the clinic before work to dose. I stated I did not mind to pay for my subs and it would end up being actually cheaper than wasting my time and money commuting to take a freaking sub when i can just go to the pharmacy one time every 2 weeks and then eventually only once a month... I explained to them - even though I moved up codes and had tapered myself down from 70mgs down to 5 mg, didn't take any done for like 3 days prior to the appointment and explained all this to the 'tech' she insisted that it was the only way i could get subox is by joining their stupid lil program where I like come in a few days a week they give me my sub for that day and possibly for the following day or two and then force me to like attend sessions and see counselors. These events were all at specific times and the only way I could've done that is if i basically quit my job. Also, my license is suspended and I don't think there's even a train line I explained that was not true and that in the past I would go in for an initial appointment, be rx'd 2 weeks worth of subs, have to take a pee test each time i come in for a new rx, then after 3 months i would get a script for a month and so on. But of course she argued no no no... She was just a tech though not like a nurse or doc. She stated that that's 'no longer how they do things.' I was so pissed bc i knew it was all about money. They did all these tests because my insurance is literally like one of the best that money can buy. If I didn't have the kind of insurance I do I wouldn't of had all these tests and like other unnecessary crap. There is no way they would've even suggested their whole 'suboxone come in/take home' program. However, while going through the wds and being there for hours and hours I expected to just get a script and leave like i had in the past when I saw a sub doc. Anyway, after like 2 hours of examination and doing blood tests that were pretty much unnecessary but were performed because my insurance would pay for them, I was eventually give two 2mg subutex and put on observation. I felt fine. Then about 2 hours later they gave me another two 2mg subutex and weirdly like right away i broke out into the worst sweats i've ever had in my life, my vision was all wacky, i could barely walk, it was terrible. i'm sure it was precipitated wd's or something but i still can't figure why the first dose of the 4mg subutex made me feel fine and actually better since it had been right around the 24 hour mark since i last used dope (i stopped methadone on sun but did d on mon and tues since i had to work and couldnt be sick at work, then wed i didn't do anything and thurs morn was my appointment). Anyway, they gave me the 2nd dose of the 4mg of subutex and felt awful. Then they gave me all this paperwork to sign regarding their like clinic - all that suboxone 'come into the clinic/take some doses home/counseling' program that I explained above and pitched it as I'd get my suboxone for free bc insurance would cover it etc etc. At the time I felt like they almost purposely drugged me so i would just sign these papers and be stuck doing their stupid program while they charge my insurance thousands. I'm sure they already charged them thousands just for the tests they did but at least it's good to check shit like cholestorol levels and other stuff. Anyway, I kept arguing with this nurse that the program they were describing is exactly what I was trying to avoid - driving out to take a dose of an opiate substitute like I had with methadone.... and this would've made it worse since it was even more out of the way from my job and their dosing hours were much worse and they forced you to like go to groups, meet with counselors, etc.) I was furious and wanted to leave right away. I stated that they wasted my entire day - I was there at least 5 hours - after i explicitly said I'm here for a suboxone RX and if they do not give me a script, have me come back 2 weeks later for a drug test and a new script as I had in the past with this same clinic, I was going to leave, call my insurance, and go to their competitor - basically a doctor who left that 'associate group.' The tech and I argued back briefly while the entire time I'm feeling awful - like a 2 day withdrawal that was compacted into the worst feeling 30 mins of my life... (I got stabbed before and I would've rather that happened again than the crazy wds I felt after taking that 2nd dose of subutex and I still dk why the hell i felt so bad despite taking one earlier and feeling fine) Anyway, a nurse enters the room and I explained the stuff I wrote above that they wasted my time and I want to try to salvage the day by seeing the competitor and I wished to discharge immediately and threatened to call my insurance and tell them to put a stop payment as I felt I did not receive proper treatment and decisions regarding my treatment had been made without my consent. Once I said all that and explained that at thsi very same damn office I was a subox patient and would be given 2 weeks supply on my first visit... The nurse went to the doc and like 15 minutes later I get a RX for 2 weeks of subs... S
Sorry for that long thing I was just describing my experience at this like suboxone 'take home' place that I been to and how horrible the experience was there. I do hope that you are sucessful with suboxone. I took lyrica a few times and it gave me a pretty cool buzz almost kind of like xanax in a way but made me walk funny. I have a ton of gabapentin and every so often i'll take like 2k-3k mgs and it does give me an opiate like high. I never thoguht about using it for easing WD symptons but that's a good idea. If I go through WDs at home I typically make sure I have all of the following - a large amount of loperamide, benzos (if available, it's actually pretty hard for me to get xanax/kpins and stuff which sucks because i love them and have no problem even paying over standard pricing but still it's super hard for me to find them), lots of tea, weed and cigarettes, baths in jacuzzi esp with salt, television/movies, food that's easy to digest, DXM, some kind of NSAID that isn't too tough on the stomach, thin blankets/sheets, sometimes kratom, but out of everything the loperamide in high doses appears to alleviate literally like 95% of the physical withdrawal symptoms - oftentimes even enough for me to fall asleep for a little. I typically cannot sleep at least 2 days during wds - so like say I do a shot in the morning monday, by monday night i'll be sick, won't sleep at all monday night, will be sick tuesday, by wednesday ill start feeling better but i may not sleep again that night.. I do hope you are sucessful on suboxone, are able to enjoy your weed (do you live near milwaukee or something - if you're in chicago that's quite a distance to drive). there's a certain famous resort town that's like 45 mins west of milwaukee (trying to go by 'sourcing/location guidelines) where extremely dank nuggets are had for very very low prices and the quality is extremely high. it's usually not the small popcorn very dense buds that are popular in chicago but more so the very fluffy nugs where like a bud might be as long as finger and as wide as like 2-3 but might onyl weigh like .5 .7g because it's so light and fluffy
Anyway, Idk why so many people argue on here and are disrespectful to each other. I'm not going to pick sides or say who's right and wrong but for real Monchi... i mean calling someone an anal loving faggot is ignorant and in turn may end up offending someone on the thread that could be gay hence now he's starting shit with you. People please - don't get all worked up just because a stranger on a thread doesn't like something you posted and respond by name calling. This is the 'Chicago Dope Thread' there is I believe a 'flame' forum/thread/whatever on here. However, if people are going to debate something that someone posted and want to call them out on it, at least explain your opinion in a wiser manner.
@chiraq - dude i LOOOOOVE that generation of M3's. I'm not a big BMW guy but I actually did own a 96 328i but it was like the car that my gf at the time drove while I drove the e320. It was basically an m3 clone - white in color with black interior. beautiful looking car but there was always shit goign wrong wtih it. i don't blame the car thoguh i blame my gf for buying a lemon - like she was explaining how the car had like almost 250k on it but the engine was 'newer' and only had like 140k or soemthing... idk something would always screw up in that car and she'd always be like replacing window regulators, the radiator, all this other crap. it looked super sexy and she insisted we get vanity plates on it - we got 'ELECTRO' since she loves electro music and we had the Xavier University plates. I love SAAB's like their design is awesome. The 04 Saab 9-3 Aero I had was extremely sexy looking. it was like a dark silver gunmetal color car. It was the nicest and most expensive car that I had (paid like 36k for it - bought it it like 2005 I think with 13k on it - traded my 99 jeep cherokee plus like 27k cash). The car had the same issue as the BMW though lol - it looked all sexy and it was a new car but always something with the electronic screwed up. Like the 6cd in dash changer had to be changed 3 times, the car would like think it was stolen and would honk and all the lights would go on and off while I'm driving, idk just all this stuff bust mostly electronic and it was all covered under GM warranty. It ran fine for a long time but then around like 110k the turbo started going haywire. That car was a total mutt though - the engine was a 2.0T that Audi/VW makes but with the boost turned up a bit more. Basically, the only difference betweent he Aero and the other models is like the boost is turned up a bit more to increase HP from like 190 on regular models to 210 hp on the Aero. The Aero has a really really nice stock body kit, nice stock rims, and had two tone leather. The price difference between like a regular 9-3 and 9-3 aero was almost 10k on the sticker though. My mom got into an accident while driving my car (her Merc GLK350 was getting a tune up or some other shit) and she rear ended some honda accord. The honda was fubar but ours had hardly any damage. The Swedes make that car like a solid shell. For a compact, it's extremely safe and if you look in the manual it's literally like a freaken shell not like other cars where it's basically steel bars wrapped in a plastic body. The Saab was a mutt though - metalwork was Swedish, the engine was the Audi/VW German 2.0T, the transmission was japanese (good trans oni t - forgot the brand though), and it seemed like each part came from a different country/company. Even the intercooler was made in Poland lol. But yea it was a fun zippy car and it was the car i used throughout 1/2 of college and I could put in a full tank and drive like 350 miles on the highway. I was so mad though because the 9-3 Aero after mine they made the engine the 3.2liter V6 with a turbo so the HP i believe was at least 250 which is quite a bit considering the car. It's not a fast car but it handled great, looked very sexy, had an awesome 13 speaker stock sound system with good bass, idk just fun all in all. I especially love the Saab 9-3 Viggen - those are damn sexy. I actually still have a 1973 Saab Sonnett iii (sunset orange color) that's like 95% restored - just needs a bit of headliner work on the interior and some work on the transmission (clutch) but otherwise it's good. It actually uses like a 90 horsepower Ford V4. It's considered a European sports car lol the 0-60 in the manual states it's like 10 or 12 seconds or soemthing crazy slow liek that. It's a sexy looking car though - it looks like a mix between a 70's ferrari and a datsun 240/280z (forgot the number)
The most reliable car I bought for the money was definetely the Mercedes E320. It burned very little gas, I'd forget to change the oil on time like all the time, and that thing ran like a champ. It finally blew a head gasket or something on the engine which was probably my fault due to preventative maintenance at over 200k and i still drove it daily - it just sounded a bit loud. But for real like for over 200k miles it didn't need a thing. My family owned two e320's - a 2001 they bought with like 30k miles in like 2002 or 2003 and gave that to me for college - that's the one I'm describing above. My most recent car though was a 1999 Mercedes E320 - they looked almost identical but the 01 had a bit of a facelift in the front and had like audio controls in the steering wheel but otherwise it was like the same car. the 1999 e320 i bought with like around 110k miles for 2,500 and also ran it to over 200k miles. I caught a dui with that car though - i rearended a suburban in december 2014 in skokie. I have my bench trial for that actually on the 28th. I've also owned a 1992 Mercedes 300se that was supposedly owned at one point by Michael Jackson but there was no way to really confirm it was the actual Michael Jackson but it did have that as one of the owners in the history. I bougth that car off of transmission shop because someoen took it in to get the trans fixed and never paid the bill so they took the car. It was suuuuper clean for such an old car. It had a new paint job so it looked great outside but the inside had a bit of scuffs and rips in the leather although I managed to fix most of it. I had that car for over a year and ended up selling it for essentially the same amount i bought it. It was a great car it started every single day, didn't have have any problems, but it drank a lot of gas - it had an inline 6 which is way too underpowered for the S class. I also owned a 1996 mercedes S420 that I bought for also around 2k but only owned it for like 2 months bc it started having problems like blown fuses in the engine or whatever it was. The 1992 300se and the 1996 S420 look identical though but the 300se was white while the s420 was black with 20" chrome amg rims. The 300se was extremely reliable while the s420 i was worried that at like any point it was going to die. the 300se had around 180k when i sold it and the s420 had like 205k when i sold it so not much difference but yet the reliability was a huge difference between the car. I also owned a 2004 Mitsubishi Diamante VRX which I bought at a dealership at a great price. I typically only buy privately and avoid dealership but this was actually a great deal. I bought it I believe around 2011-2012 and it had 55k miles and after taxes and evertyhing i paid like $6,700 for it. Me being in sales though and negotiating so hard the sales manager said that the dealership literally made $137 by selling me the car but were just happy to sell it even at that to get cash and move the car. It wasn't a bad car - it was like your average honda accord or camry but it truly felt waaaay better built. The interior seats were comfy, it burned a lot of gas since it had a 3.5l MIVEC v6 but yet wasn't too fast - had a bit over 200 hp. but like it looked like a unique car though for a sedan and i like buying cars that aren't too common. Unfortunately, I crashed that one too - I'd still have it to this day but like I skidded out when I was driving and fucked up the car so the insurance gave me a check for a total loss.
I've realized I'm not a good driver and I've wrecked so many cars so now I just stick to buying cheap cars because my driving record is so awful that insurance companies won't give me full coverage and if they do they'll want like $300-$400 a month for it. So I'm not going to buy like a car for $20-$30k just to put liability insurance on it since that's all i can get bc of my record. My next car is going to be either a 2000-2002 e430/clk430 (same car except the clk is a coupe version), a 2004-2005 e320 (they updated the look in 2003 but the first years they had some problems - i still kind of prefer the older look though), or a 2003-2004 mercedes s430. I want the s430 the most but it has the air ride suspension and it if it breaks it costs several thousand dollars to fix. I'm considering also an early 2000's audi a8 (i won't buy another audi/vw product that has turbos - owned two and both turbos went bad after the car hit 100k) , 2001-2003 bmw 330i/330ci which i've heard are very reliable and my friend had a 2000 328ci 5 speed and it was a very cool classy car, 2004-2005 BMW 7-series although I've heard that they have some reliability issues.
In all honesty though I'll probably end up with the 2000-2002 e430 because i've had 2 e320 already and they don't have some of the technology kinks that some of the other MB models do like air ride suspension issues, the computer messing up, plus I'd like a bit more power than the e320's I've had. Idk why but people and a lot of car forums state the e320/e430 are more reliable than the clk320/430 even though it's essentialyl the same car just e is sedan and clk is coupe. The e320s had somewhere around 200 hp wheras the e430 has 275 so it's quite a bit difference and the fuel economy isn't that much different. I saw on ebaymotors the exact kind of e430 I'm looking for - 90k-100k miles in immaculate condition silver or black with cream leather interior, tinted windows - here's the link if you want to check it out (i've owned 2 of these and plan to own a 3rd soon)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Be...tr=true&hash=item25ab3d9d74&item=161786731892
However, that particular one is a rip off - I can find one just like that locally on craigslist for nearly half the price. I got an e320 that was in even better condition than that one in the link for $2,500 and only had like 30k miles more. Here's even one for $4k but it's 161k miles - original owner but it looks immaculate. Something like that I could buy for 2.5-3k no problem though around here. This one's from a private party too - it's identical to the 2001 e320 I had in college but this one has the amg rims and it's e430 and i want to own the v8 version this time around
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Be...tr=true&hash=item35ef29fc44&item=231645772868
copped roughly 4 g of raw verrry happy and i did about .75 g so far.... the raw dubs typically weigh like .2-.25 so theyre a good weight plus these seem closer to .25 since they appeared to have a tad more than usual when i dumped it out. i usually don't cook it - i use warm water and that tends to be enough. if memory serves me correctly morphine begin to break up at temps over 88 degrees F.
Sorry for the reallllllyyy long post I just get bored at work on fridays as there is nothing to do after 2 pm...