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Opioids Chicago dope thread

I actually did some really good dope in NOLA last time I went but that was in 2008 and I have friends down there so I didn't have to go looking.
 
My question, in response to above, some one said they would rather get the mixed sawbucks from the West side, rather than get "raw".
Finding something that is truely "raw", no matter it's in rock form, powder form, whatever, is not something that happens every day. Unless you have a lab in your house, or know someone in the DEA that can test it for you, there is no way of telling. Cant say how many times people have said that they had access to "raw", or dealers saying "it's straight off the brick". Some guys even go so far as to sell a piece of "raw" with some dormin pills or caps, saying to "mix it how you want it" That little piece, that's grey or off white, it's dope, but the chances that's straight up, not good. Almost everything, even before it hits the states these days has been stepped on.
Heroin, in it's purest, un adulterated state, is not in a brick, or a rock. It's in a pure, powder. It's made into bricks by compressing, or mixing in other chemicals, because it's easier, and more efficient to transport. Blah Blah, sorry i keep getting off topic.
My question, why, would you rather not have something that is pure and un cut, than have something that has been mixed? Isn't the whole point of finding good dope, to find the best, strongest, "fire" bags?
Personally, I would take the pure every day. First, cause I know exactly what's in it. Secondly, I want to use heroin, not heroin and xanax, dormin, fyntyinal...
So what's the deal? What am I missing? Not trying to bust your balls, this is legitmate question of mine. Because this is not the first time I have heard this here in town. Actually, many times. And always have wondered what the deal with that is...
 
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And dont even get me started on "China White". If i hear one more person here in town say that they got, or have access to China, i will freak out. The chances of someone with a lot of money, and connects finding pure heroin from asia is close to impossible. Now a regular day to day user, Nope. Not happening. The chances of someone finding pure SEA diesel is less than that of someone finding "raw" dope.
Dealers tell people its raw, or china, cause it up sells their product. Just like saying it's a fire batch right off the table. How may dealers do you know that are ever going to say, well, this batch is ordinary. :?? It's always gonna be "fire", that in marketing is what we call a CATCH word. Raw, China White, Fire, all just words.
Something to think about, maybe...
 
A question for all the Daily Users...
How many times a day do you cop? If you dont cop daily, how many times a week do you cop?
This is only for the commit ed users. The ones that if you do not have a shot or line available in
6 to 12 hours, things are going to get very REAL, very FAST.
For the people that.......
Wont be going to work if they do not have a wake up, or something for "breakfast"
Wont be sleeping a minute if they dont have something to take at bed time
Wont be having much of anything to eat for dinner, because they are vomiting every 40
minutes...
How many times do you cop a day/week?
Are you the kind that will buy 5 jabs every few days?
Are you the kind that joins the a.m. and p.m. rush hours,
but going the opposite way of everyone else, to pick up
a few dubs 3 or 4 times a day?
And how does this daily routine work with your job, career,
relationship, etc? Does your schedule work around the dope,
or does the dope work around your work?
 
Well word raw is means pure as it gets when it hits the docks, before its hits the docks its probably has been cut once back at the lab.
But not all raw is good ppl rerock it etc, I mean ur right saying its not pure kuz its never is. But the word usually means close to pure, or pure as it gets on the streets. U do need substantial connections, alot of raw dealers will only sell 5 grams and up etc. Which is ridiculous for us bekuz u need like $1000 lol. So thats why its uncommon for a regular user to be able to get it. Its a substaintial connection, bekuz ppl can take one gram, make 20 stamps from it, make double what he spent and the conservative if u dnt want to dilute the bags down.
But just remember those stamp bags were made at some point from raw, so inevitably raw is the strongest possible if its a good patch.
Shooters sometimes prefer the mixed bags bekuz the dormin adds its own twist on it. I think snorters get it too tho, kuz i like a strong stamp bag with a lil domin on it. Its got like this extra lift lol. But when buying by weight (not stamps),u dont want any dorm bekuz thats replacing dope u could be getting.

nakedlady- to answer ur question, I use to be addicted but not super addicted. (I wouldnt get sick for two days after using so by that time I usually could scrap up $). NOW 6-12 hours & mentally I cant handle stress. Then the stomach cramps, no appetite even if I didn't eat that day, tired, stressing etc. I cop usually daily or every other day. It exposes me more to police copping that often but financially if u dnt got it u have to do it that way. When i was working my other good paying job I could shop twice a week exposing myself less.
Being a addict makes u wanna carry that shit on u were ever u go, but in reality u should keep that shit at home. and come back and use at home. Carrying that shit on u is like breaking the law all over again every time u walk out the house with it on u. If u do, like u might have to sometimes, have it ready to swallow or even ready to drop outside. no big bags with tails on it. Cops have been violating stop and search laws, they do what they want now. Guily until proven innocent, all that probable cause shit doesnt matter after they caught u with it.
 
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MadeInChicago said:
Well word raw is means pure as it gets when it hits the docks, before its hits the docks its probably has been cut once back at the lab.
But not all raw is good ppl rerock it etc, I mean ur right saying its not pure kuz its never is. But the word usually means close to pure, or pure as it gets on the streets. U do need substantial connections, alot of raw dealers will only sell 5 grams and up etc. Which is ridiculous for us bekuz u need like $1000 lol.
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What don't make sense is why would they cut it BEFORE getting it across the border?It's just adding weight AND volume.I can see throwin a cut on it once it gets thru and calling it raw but isn't life hard enough getting anything across?I mean if you get caught crossing with a key of pure vs. a 50/50 key you're still getting charged with a key,so why the added risk of double the weight or half the product?Just doesn't make sense. BTW,is dormin what you guys call Benadryl? Also,if you can get 5 gm raw/what you said,why aren't 4 guys kicking in to get the best.Sheeet,I'd do that myself if I had the connect.Jus sayin.
 
Ive read that chemist might do that. But when it hits the docks the person who first gets it usually cuts it at least once. I will confidently say I think Ive had some that wasnt rerocked. I dont even wanna post the weight these guys were dealing with. But it was white as driven snow solid sometimes ud get a corner piece off a brick. perfectly square.

Thats the whole point of dope its 3 times more potent by weight and volume compared to morphine. They conceal it and blow it up when it gets here. When cut is involved like making stamps u can make five hundo off one hundo. Ive seen documantries of dealers purposely making it gud than shit so they can make more money. Out here in detroit and stuff its most of the time raw even down to points. mfs are out here rerocking shit so its not always good.
 
puke said:
You only time I went real dope tourist was in Buffalo New York and Worcester Ma. Funny I couldn't find dope when Mass has such a big problem.
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It's not.They're just trying to divert attention from the real shenanigans TPTB are into.Shit,the Feds are investigating the Mayor of Boston and he's whistling past the graveyard.Most of our pols either retire early or go to jail.Sorta like Chicago,haha.
 
Yea, life is hard enought getting a little bit across the border, your right MMT. But point is this. The real players, the ones that making real money, arent sending over 1 or 2 kilos. They sending that shit in metric ton shipments. And, just like anywhere else, it's worth what its' worth in weight. What your saying makes sense, cut it once it's been transported. but that's back when they had people swallowing condoms before their flights from Panama to Miami. And granted, That shit still happens, and i'm sure someone making good money there. But when you are figuring out how to get 1 ton of coke or heroin under, or over the border, you in a league all your own. That's sinoloa, guzman shit. Now you are not anything short of a Logistics Cordinator. That whole thing is very interesting to me. I mean fuck, a ton of anything is obviously a lot. when you are talking about a ton of powder, you arent using mules on flights anymore. You are using the entire 747.
 
Ill tell you one think nakedlady, the stuff Ive seen was way to bulked up to be getting transported in the country through ppls bodies. It has to be tunnels or simple trucks, in the gas tank etc. They even have little grid lines on the kilo and stuff u can see. I always know Im getting the same stuff when I see that grid & the same color. theyve been busting 130 million dollar shipments in those tunnels going to mexico. Thats tons, not to mention they use the tunnels as storage too. Thats why when they bust them, no ones there its just a shit load (tons) of drugs.
Considering if they get it across it is good to put all ur eggs in one basket. Kuz if that one metric ton basket gets through...man ITS UGLY.

lmao tell me why this dealer was like, man this shit so fire they dnt even wanna call me they scarrred lol. mfs dying
 
Fact is what has to get thru gets thru,and always in bulk loads cause America is,hands down,the most corrupt nation on Earth.Sure we sugarcoat it with selective busts and throwaways just to keep the illusion going.But what we're really good at is spreading false "democracy" corruption around the globe,one never ending war after another.Filthy Lucre?,naw,just good old high up American capitalism.The last thing TPTB want and fear most is an honest politician to muck things up at the trough. And prohibition is the backbone of the whole rotten system feeding on the sick and weakest among us.
 
MMT said:
Fact is what has to get thru gets thru,and always in bulk loads cause America is,hands down,the most corrupt nation on Earth.Sure we sugarcoat it with selective busts and throwaways just to keep the illusion going.But what we're really good at is spreading false "democracy" corruption around the globe,one never ending war after another.Filthy Lucre?,naw,just good old high up American capitalism.The last thing TPTB want and fear most is an honest politician to muck things up at the trough. And prohibition is the backbone of the whole rotten system feeding on the sick and weakest among us.
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glad u arent blind like some of these other idiots...that claim even being crtical of Amerikkka is unpatriotic.....there has never been a more murderous, blood thirsty, ruthless regime than America and the United States govt....and its vailed under the clocke of "demcoracy' 'freedom" and other bullshit..i mean going fwd i tell EVERYONE u better get ur money right! the top 1% now control more than HALF OF THE 300TRILLION dollars of global wealth!!!!!! HALF!!!!!!!!! thats unreal.....its going to be the haves vs, the halfnots.! period....if the cover of racism is ever lifted from the general publics eyes than they will REALLY see what rules! Classism.
 
OK! well, lets get back on the Diesel thread. This is one of the very very few places we can go and not have political theories coming from every direction. Or, if we must discuss some sort of political angle, with a focus on over spending, and corruption, how about, THE WAR ON DRUGS. that s a good one.
 
nakedlady said:
OK! well, lets get back on the Diesel thread. This is one of the very very few places we can go and not have political theories coming from every direction. Or, if we must discuss some sort of political angle, with a focus on over spending, and corruption, how about, THE WAR ON DRUGS. that s a good one.
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So how's the dope been there lately ? Are the Mexican's really making Fentanyl now ?
 
but i was really hopping we would get back to the discussion about..... DRUGS...... like,,,,,,,, heroin!!!!!!!!! :)

So, what's the story people, those of you who are in the game 100 percent, using on a daily, more like hourly basis.
What's your, or better, what's a typical day like for you? Not work, the girl, friends, gym membership, just the D. And
how do you schedule either your life around the diesel, or the diesel around your life?
For me, My days are scheduled to accomidate my heroin addiction.
I usually am able to stay a day or 2 ahead.
9 month's ago, I was able to be about a week ahead. Having the Big man come by 1 or 2 times a week to drop off what I needed. Usually 6 to 8 packs at the beginning of the week, and depending on the week, the same amount on Thursday or Friday. (spending 800 to 1400 a week, CASH)
Going on this schedule over the course of one week, breaks down to something like 20 seconds a day spent TOTAL on the dope. When I say TOTAL, I mean everything that goes into aquirring the heroin. From making the phone calls, to getting the cash in hand, to waiting for the guy to show up... yada yada.
Chances of getting popped by 5.0, just as close to ZERO percent chance as possible. Considering it's coming to me, in my nice Lincoln Park apartment. Not only that, but it comes to my front door, then into my living room.
Well, now that things have become much more REAL for me, unfortunately I do not live in that demo graphic any more.
Currently, going over the last week, I averaged going to cop, 1 time per day. A few days, I was able to cop three packs, so I was set for the next day. Regardless, the amount of time spent, dramatically increases from the above. A typical trip to cop takes exactly 2 hours from my front door to the spot and back inside my front door. 2 hours. That does not include waiting on trains, waiting on the man to "pull up", whatever else goes into the trip. That is 14 hours a week.

So I went spending 20 seconds a day, to 7200 seconds a day on dope. This number does not include the time spent waiting on you know who to "pull up", think about that for a second...

Anyways, 20 seconds to 7200 seconds.

And that's figuring just 1 trip a day. Imagine now, having to go cop several times a day.

My chances of getting popped in my Lincoln Park neighborhood were just about as close to 0 percent as possible.
But now that I am going out west 1 time a day, at minimum, that' number just multiplied it'self many, many times.
There is no equation to figure out your chances of being arrested, but I have always thought to myself it's gotta be somewhere around 10 percent chance of just being stopped for being white in the neighborhood. Once you factor in the action of going on to the block, the chances of being stopped just went up again. And so forth... By the end of it, im' always thinking its a fifty fifty chance.
Man, it's crazy to just sit down for a second and figure out how much time i spend of my life every week on just obtaining heroin. You should try it, crazy to see the number in front of you....
 
The stuff Ive had lately is knock you on your ass shit. Tomorrow I have two shots and then Im out. I will have to transition back to suboxone and then thatll be that! If I use after next Monday Ill piss dirty and screw myself over. I got kicked out of this program last September and dont want to do it again.

I dont have the focus right now to reflect on my heroin use and look at my numbers and shit. I already know it'd look bad.

I had to make myself puke about twenty mins ago because this dope is THAT kind of dope. Even though I like that its strong, Im not digging the occasional nausea.

Banana, where you at? How have you been, man?

Nod on.
 
Fentanyl is manufactured in Asia, China to be specific. I just watched a show on CNN the other day about how Mexico is becoming the leader in the importing of these really strong opiates.
Since Hydro, and Oxycodone is so expensive to import, let alone manufacture, someone came up with a great idea. Since the customers up in USA want Percocets, Vicodins, we will give them just that. Or we will give them what "appears" to be just that.
So they set up all these shops that are making "fake" oxycontins, Percocets. The problem is that, instead of just making a FAKE pill that has no pain killer in it, they are using the Fyntanyl that came in.
Out in california, recently almost 20 people have died this last month from a batch of fake Percocets that were traced back to a factory in mexico. The pills had no oxy or hydro in them.
So all these junkies, not even, some house wives have been dropping like flies. Because they think they are taking a 5mg hydro pill, but instead injesting something like 50 mg of fyntanyl...
 
yeah ur not lying about lincoln park being safe, they just arent looking in those areas for drugs period. I got pulled over in an affluent area not to long ago, I was shitting myself bekuz I had my stuff out. while trying to put it in the dash I dropped it on the floor& couldnt find it until he walked up to the window. I thought i was thro kuz first thing they do is hit that light on the floor & look around the car for stuff in plain view while u get ur license out. Like I said they arent looking for stuff in richer areas, he got a call & said todays ur lucky day kuz he was about to write me a ticket.
 
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