Sup people!! Glad to see you made it out chiraq there and are staying clean. I hear that they mostly have tar out in Colorado which is a nasty form of h. It has more 3-MAM than regular powder dope so the rush is a bit more intense imo.
Speaking of wds, I've been trying to get off the d but it's been hard. The past 1 1/2 weeks I've been like using on and off and I'm hoping I can get off and stick to doing it only on like special occassions so I don't have to go through WD's anymore.
So this is how it went:
Wednesday Sept 2: I decided that I would use the long weekend to go through WD's so I can do it in the comfort of my home and not have to come to work. I asked my boss to have Thursday and Friday and use up 2 of my paid vacation days. I do a shot when I get home from work - 3 bags of raw so about .5-.6g shot. I nod nicely and go to bed soon after.
Thursday Sept 3 - DAY 1 of WD: I wake up early like 6-7 am. I usually get up for work at 5 so it's like almost instinctual. I know that the next few days are going to be crappy. I usually experience the worst WDs on the first day and get the cramps in my thigh muscles and later biceps. Once I know that my thigh muscles are cramping I know that it's the peak of the WD and it's downhill from there. Anyway, so I wake up and I look at the meds I have to get me through this wd - 9 1mg klonopin, 120 loperamide pills, dxm syrup, high quality marijuana, 10 tramadol, like 30 robaxin (muscle relaxer - not too strong though), like 2 1/2 strips of 8 mg suboxone, trazadone (sleeping pill). So needless to say, I had a lot of substitutes. I know it's too early to take the sub and will have to wait at least till Friday morning before I wake it.
I take like 4 klonopins as soon as I wake up, a couple robaxins, and smoke some weed. No WD's yet. I did a shot before bed so i figured I wouldn't experience much till later in the day. The klonopin and MJ make me sleepy and I fall asleep from like 9 to noon. By afternoon, my skin is starting to crawl and I feel the hot cold flashes. Nothing too bad though. I watch movies till the evening and my wds are very mild. I take a fistfull of loperamide (30 pills? - 60 mgs roughly) and it helps a lot with the skin crawling and the hot cold flashes. It reduces their effect dramatically. Throughout the day I continue to take klonopin, robaxin, and smoke while watching various movies all day long. Once night time comes and I want to sleep I smoke some more weed weed, eat the rest of the loperamide in the bottle (like another 30 pills), drink a lil bit of dxm syrup, and I'm able to sleep on and off but the muscle cramps are starting to set in. I am kicking the bed and occassionally my gf so she goes and sleeps in the guest bedroom. I took some more robaxin and it helped. I only experiences about 3-4 hours of muscle craps throughout this entire wd. I continue to sleep on and off - like 2-3 hours wake up and for an hour or so I nurse a super dry mouth, pee like every 10 minutes, then try to sleep again. It seems like I eventually do fall asleep but wake up after only a few hours because something is bugging me.
Friday September 4 - DAY 2 of wds. I wake up early again and I realize I ate the last of my klonopin already. I'm feeling actually pretty decent though in the morning. I know though that it's only because I'm loading up my body up on all these 'substitutes.' I feel confident enough though that I won't get precipitated WD's so I take first 1/2 of an 8mg strip, wait 30 mins - no precip wds - so I take the other half. I continue to rip pieces off the 2, 2 1/2 strips that I have throughout the day combining them with tramadol. I read a thread on combining tramadol with suboxone on here to see how they mix. People stated that there wouldn't be much of an effect at least for an opiate tolerant person but that the combination wouldn't like cause me to have precipated wds. Tramadol afterall is technically an antidepressant and has no opiate it in but nonetheless is a mu receptor agonist while suboxone is an antagonist. The combo actually seemed pretty enjoyable and gave me mild euphoria. No major wds except feeling tired yet can't sleep, hot/cold flashes, skin crawling but no more leg kicking or any muscle cramps. Even the symptons I do have are very mild and I don't have a runny nose, the sneezes, etc. I'm feeling pretty good overall. This is actually going super smooth so far. I continue to watch movies through out the day, smoke bud, sleep when I feel like I can, etc. I had some trouble falling asleep at first and drank an

z bottle of dxm syrup. I'm able to sleep though through the night
Saturday September 5 - DAY 3 OF WDS - In the past, the vast majority of my wds occurred like 8-12 hours after my last shot, would pseak late in day 1/early day 2, and then would decline until day 3 when I feel okay. This time it's different though and it's going super smooth. I wake up and feel decent. By now, I've used up all but a tiny bit of suboxone (perhaps 2 mg) all the klonopin, loperamide, tramadol, and dxm syrup but I still have a lot of bud to smoke and a couple of the robaxin left as well as lots of trazadone although I don't like taking that stuff bc it makes me feel groggy always the next day. I feel pretty good but take it easy during the day. Mostly just smoking bud and watching movies all day long. I feel like the wds are just about over.
Sunday September 6 - DAY 4 OF WDS - so i'm feeling great but i fuck up and decide that I've detoxed enough and go to cop like a gram and a half of raw later in the day. Anyway, I wake up and feel normal actually and I feel like 99% of my wds are over and don't need to like take suboxone or any other meds. I can feel a bit of the PAWS setting in though - namely anxiety. I think watching American Gangster was a bad idea and a huge trigger. I continue to smoke bud throughout the day but my strength and everything has really come back to me. My appetite is back, I'm not having to pee every 10 minutes, and I'm feeling good overall. I feel a bit like worn out from the past few days and I just continue to smoke, lay on the couch, etc. My gf wants to go out since its a really nice day. I am able to enjoy the outdoors, don't have much of any hot/cold flashes, and am starting to regain my strength. We go out of the house and enjoy the lake and riviera as I'm bored of watching so many movies. Then, in the afternoon, my dumbass rationalizes that my wds are over and that if i cop and only do it a day or two that I won't have wds... well it didn't work... Anyway, I cop and start off with only 2 bags of raw (each bag is .2-.25) which I did around 5pm or so. I feel great now lol. We drive back to the house from Chicago and I feel 'normal' and I now have the energy to like clean the house, shower and shave, then have sex, and finally fall asleep. Out of the past few days it's definetely the best sleep I get.
MONDAY September 7 - Labor day. I finally was able to sleep without interruption. I wake up around 11-12 and do the rest of the d. I catch a nice nod and continue to smoke bud throughout the day. I offer to do some yardwork. I'm worried that I'll start the wd cycle all over again but I honestly thought that it wouldn't happen. Anyway, I go to bed and the cycle starts over again - this time it's way worse!!! I fucked up major... I went to bed around 8:30 and I wake up at midnight feeling wds setting in - my skin is crawling and I'm getting hot cold flashes. Some muscle cramps already too.
TUESDAY September 8 - 1st day of wds again - this sucks - I feel like shit, I used all my 'substitute meds' and I have to go to work. I just wasted the past 4 days - that detox was for nothing as now I'm feeling worse than I did during the 1st wd. I don't do much at work - literally just pretending to work. The wds aren't terrible but it feels like hell especially when compared to the past few days during which I was able to use various meds to get rid of all the wds symptoms almost entirely. I barely sleep at night - i get like 1-2 hours at a time and it's so hard to fall asleep because my skin is crawling, I'm feeling hot/cold, and I keep having to run to the bathroom every 10 minutes to pee. This sucks...
WEDNESDAY September 9 - 2nd day of wds. I barely slept but don't feel too tired. The wds are definately worse today than yesterday. I give up - I called my people and they drop me off a g. I'll have to make it last till Friday. On Friday, I'll be able to get at least 30 klonopin and 60 robaxin which helped me the most. Till then, I have to function somehow at work so I do enough to get well but not enough to nod. I'm very mad at myself. I wish I wouldn't of copped on Sunday. It's weird though because usually I start feeling wds like 8-12 hours after my last shot and peak about 36 hours after my last shot. This time I felt the wds come on later but they're definetly more intense than the detox I just had. It really puzzles me though why I feel so much worse during this wd than the one I just had. I was using daily prior the last wd and doing way more - this WD I went through Tuesday and today feels way worse. Barely any sleep, way worse hot/cold flashes but more mild muscle cramps. Granted I only experienced the muscle cramps like just one night for a few hours and the meds helped a lot.
It sucks... now I have to go through wds AGAIN starting Friday - this will be like the 3rd time in 2 weeks I'm detoxing. I'm going to maintain till Friday morning when I'll do my last shot so I can at least be productive at work. I figure the worst days will be Saturday and Sunday and at least I'll have way more klonopin. I figure it won't be too bad though. I still have lots of bud and will have my klonopin and robaxin refilled.
Anyone else go through something similar? Like go through detox for a few days, then cop some d then feel even worse than the original detox??