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Career advice - "Do What You Love and You'll Never Work a Day"

Aside from having to go out in the brutal cold, early mornings, in the winter and carrying a heavy bag around plus I guess vicious dogs being a postie sounds alright. You're left to your own devices, no supervisor or boss breathing down your neck (at least not when on the round), get some exercise. Much better than an office or call centre job for example, I don't think I can handle having a job like that again.
 
TheSpade said:
I've done it in the past and may well be doing it again soon but I totally think it's a mugs game. You work for someone else you are at their mercy, have to abide by their rules, do what they say etc. They make all the money and pay you a small amount of it for all your hard work. Mugs game.
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Don't you live at home with your ma? I'd rather be a slave to a boss who I can fuck off at 5pm than get chewed out by some mummy boss who doesn't pay penalty rates at home every time I haven't made the bed or taken out the rubbish.

Some people are lucky enough to make a living from a reasonably paying hobby (ie photography, artist, prostitute) but they are very much reliant on luck to score the big life changing job. If was easy to find the perfect job no one would put up with the shit ones. There are very few "perfect" careers out their, but your attitude to work is the biggest factor in your happiness. I work for large multinational healthcare company as a dentist but my salary is also supplemented by shares. If I work hard and deliver they reward me. I can't honestly say my job is easy or particularly enjoyable when I am there, but the trade off is I only work Mon-Thur. It is easier avoiding becoming a suicidal alcoholic when you sit at a pub washing down a steak lunch with German beers off the tap every Friday with another few days to enjoy life before your next patient.
 
Currently I'm living with my old dear aye, though haven't always done. Moved out at age 21, lived away for about 4 years then went away travelling for 6 months. Since then I've spent around 6 months at home, 6 months away travelling every year. Saves a fortune in rent and bills, suits me fine atm. Not really relevant at all though to what we're talking about.

Getting a job that is also a hobby would surely be everyones dream come true but again that's now what we're on about. We're just talking about working for yourself, being self employed, not having a 'dream' or 'perfect' job if there even is such a thing. It's all well and good saying your attitude to your work is your biggest factor in happiness but try having a good attitude when your stuck in a call centre, working through an agency that treat you like shite and give you no rights, with cunt bosses and even cuntier customers, for minimum wage...for example.

I'd rather work for myself.
 
There are people working in call centers who fucking kill their job, make a great commission and fuck every new piece of talent who walks through the door. They probably have their home to take her back to though so that might swing the deal. Even shit jobs are tolerable if you earn enough money to enjoy a good life. Unless you equate a "good life" waking up after 12 and watching daytime television.
 
As mentioned earlier I'd rather work for myself and earn less than working for someone else and earn more. Get over it.
 
I managed to score a wonderful job nearly 10 years ago now. A bit or programming (Perl, PHP and bash), MySQL, Asterisk and Apache admin, I get to tinker about with computers and phones all day and get paid for it. I'm also in the position of not having to pay any rent or mortgage :)

I've thought about starting my own business assisting businesses ditching Microsoft and embracing Open Source software; but this is precisely the sort of business that you need to take to your customers, and I am afflicted with some medical condition that renders me congenitally incapable of driving a car. But it's a good plan to bring up in a restart interview if I lost this job.
 
I always wondered how OU works regarding chemistry?
Do they send you a bunsen burner and chemicals in the post? lol.
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Well, they used to send you away for a week at a brick university over the summer, I just got back from mine a couple of weeks ago, where we were synthesising insect pheromones (and drinking lots, since it's the only time most OU students get to see each other) but due to lack of funding, they're moving to a virtual system and doing a few practical days here and there, which is pretty shit, because no amount of virtual preparation can compare you for the first time you drop your flask as you take it off the rotary evaporator and it falls in the water bath and fuck up your moisture-sensitive compound 8(
 
Busty St Clare said:
It is easier avoiding becoming a suicidal alcoholic when you sit at a pub washing down a steak lunch with German beers off the tap every Friday with another few days to enjoy life before your next patient.
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Then again my last dentist hanged himself recently because his wife wouldn't re-mortgage the house to part-finance the new practice he wanted to open.

Sooooooooooooo...swings and roundabouts in your little theme park eh Busty?
 
BecomingJulie said:
I've thought about starting my own business assisting businesses ditching Microsoft and embracing Open Source software; but this is precisely the sort of business that you need to take to your customers
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That's the kind of thing I'd like to do, in fact I have done exactly that on a small scale, but I need to do it with a partner. I'll happily work on technical stuff into the night but I don't like selling, or bullshitting.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
Then again my last dentist hanged himself recently because his wife wouldn't re-mortgage the house to part-finance the new practice he wanted to open.

Sooooooooooooo...swings and roundabouts in your little theme park eh Busty?
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Fuk you just shited on everything .

Their was me gonna get a job in telephone sales , take all dem fit bitches back to my riverside apartment n Fuk em senseless n now you saying this boy don't come correct with his knowledge ?

Why spoil it all G ?
 
TheSpade said:
a 'dream' or 'perfect' job if there even is such a thing.
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The prefect job is no job.

Busty St Clare said:
There are people working in call centers who fucking kill their job, make a great commission and fuck every new piece of talent who walks through the door.
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It's quicker to just type "arseholes"

Unless you equate a "good life" waking up after 12 and watching daytime television.
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Ehm, aye.
 
parttime crackhead said:
The prefect job is no job.
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Or as Buckminster Fuller (nothing to do with the drink) said:

'We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors.

The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.'
 
jancrow said:
Or as Buckminster Fuller (nothing to do with the drink) said:

'We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors.

The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.'
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Aye I posted a pic with that quote on it a few weeks back. True.

The prefect job is no job.
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I'm with you on that.

It's quicker to just type "arseholes"
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:D

Don't know why people can't just be honest about it, work is shite. We all know it. Everyone should do whatever you can to avoid it whether that be scamming the benefits like half of EADD, pulling massive sickies for months on end on the insurance, throwing work away instead of actually doing it or pulling off online scams. Fuck work.
 
jancrow said:
Or as Buckminster Fuller (nothing to do with the drink) said:
The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.'
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Or a modern, popular translation waking up after 12 and watching daytime television

Lets get a working party together, get up that hill and start building that windmill;)
 
TheSpade said:
Don't know why people can't just be honest about it, work is shite. We all know it. Everyone should do whatever you can to avoid it whether that be scamming the benefits like half of EADD, pulling massive sickies for months on end on the insurance, throwing work away instead of actually doing it or pulling off online scams. Fuck work.
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Amen
 
TheSpade said:
Don't know why people can't just be honest about it, work is shite. We all know it. Everyone should do whatever you can to avoid it whether that be scamming the benefits like half of EADD, pulling massive sickies for months on end on the insurance, throwing work away instead of actually doing it or pulling off online scams. Fuck work.
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Word to that.

I remember in one of my very first jobs I was basically just adding stuff up from paperwork & typing it into a database. After about 2 days I realised that I would be out of there (it was just a summer job before college) before anyone checked anything I had done. It took about 5 minutes to add up all the columns on a page to get the correct figure, or about 1 second to glance at it & make something up - Cue 10 minutes of random entry into a database every couple of hours, lots of fag breaks & plenty of newspaper reading lol.

I see it as your duty to rip the fucking arse out it wherever possible. Mad respect to dan88 (think it was you, I can't be bothered checking) for the paperwork hiding scam, top work. Shame you got grassed up man.
 
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