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BasedGod said:
Lue. Joskus psyvaultis sällit puhu et 5mg liuotettuna sitruunahappoon pärähti kovempaa ku 15mg pelkkään veteen.
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Mä oon saanut sairaalassa ennen leikkausta (tarkoitus oli pysyä hereillä leikkuksen ajan ja ne ties mun bentsotolesta) 5mg midatsolaamia ja se ei pärähtänyt lähellekkään samalla tavalla kuin 15mg flormidal väsättynä veteen

mut kylmä tosta aion selvää ottaa ja kokeilla kuitenkin
 
BasedGod said:
Lue. Joskus psyvaultis sällit puhu et 5mg liuotettuna sitruunahappoon pärähti kovempaa ku 15mg pelkkään veteen.
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I saw the brand name Normison pop up in your Finnish-language discussion with @LivingOnValium and I got curious, so I used the computer translator to get an idea (pretty roughly) of what you were talking about. I hope you don't mind me butting in with this, but it's an interesting question to me.

FWIW, I'd tend to agree with you, my experiences lead me to believe that midazolam maleate does need acid to dissolve well. I fixed a Dormicum 7.5mg once using plain cold water and I only got weak effects, it was pretty much a waste. Maybe the acid isn't as necessary if you heat the water up, but it scares me to do that with crushed pills.

I also filtered that shot using something decent -- it might have been a Sterifilt, but more likely a 0.22 wheel filter. Maybe if you use just a cotton to filter, you can get more out of a shot with no acid? I'm starting to think that particles can play a role, though I don't totally understand how. But it seems like water solubility is not the whole story....

Didn't people used to inject Rohypnol tablets in Europe? I know people have injected Halcion in the USA, and its water solubility is still very low even if it's higher than most benzos.

Or take cyclizine: people in the UK used to inject it with methadone (for a rush like Diconal) using the OTC tablets....which were all HCL (not lactate), so totally insoluble in water. I think they just dumped the crushed-up pills directly into a large barrel, shook it up with all the particles floating around, and shot it. It makes me cringe just imagining it... but I don't doubt all the people who've said they got a rush from it, so it must've absorbed one way or another.
 
JTemperance said:
Didn't people used to inject Rohypnol tablets in äEurope? I know people have injected Halcion in the USA, and its water solubility is still very low even if it's higher than most benzos.
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You would Be surprised how many pills are injected without amykind of filtration every day. A single dose of halxion IS 0,125mg or 0,25mg., Which might Be allowed to be dissolved 1ml h20. That's still an umderwhelmimg dose of halxion
 
LivingOnValium said:
You would Be surprised how many pills are injected without amykind of filtration every day.
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The resilience of the human body is pretty amazing sometimes, I have to admit.... though I don't need to test it out firsthand, I take enough chances sticking needles into myself everyday.

A single dose of halxion IS 0,125mg or 0,25mg., Which might Be allowed to be dissolved 1ml h20. That's still an umderwhelmimg dose of halxion
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You might remember when triazolam the victim of a hysterical moral panic? It was accused of causing people to axe-murder their families while in an "autopilot" mode... Around that time (1990-91), a lot of countries removed it from their formularies but I think all the manufacturers of all brands worldwide agreed to drop the 0.5mg dosage.

So now they're pretty low-potency compared to other hypnotics: I'd say 0.25mg triazolam is a bit weaker than 20mg temazepam or 7.5mg midazolam, maybe like 65-75% the strength? But I do really enjoy triazolam... I guess it was popular in your region at one point? I'm pretty sure I've heard about Finns taking the ferry to Tallinn on a mission for triazolam...
 
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JTemperance said:
The resilience of the human body is pretty amazing sometimes, I have to admit.... though I don't need to test it out firsthand, I take enough chances sticking needles into myself everyday.


You might remember when triazolam the victim of a hysterical moral panic? It was accused of causing people to axe-murder their families while in an "autopilot" mode... Around that time (1990-91), a lot of countries removed it from their formularies but I think all the manufacturers of all brands worldwide agreed to drop the 0.5mg dosage.

So now they're pretty low-potency compared to other hypnotics: I'd say 0.25mg triazolam is a bit weaker than 20mg temazepam or 7.5mg midazolam, maybe like 65-75% the strength? But I do really enjoy triazolam... I guess it was popular in your region at one point? I'm pretty sure I've heard about Finns taking the ferry to Tallinn on a mission for triazolam...
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Lol. We're all about midalom. If it has to Be brought from Estonia it'll Be Roches 7,5mg Dormicum. For some reason Estonia has Limited The strength of midalom tablets to 7,5mg go fo figure. At least you get a box of 30 tabs.


Dormicum 15mg & 7,5mg can be obtained from Finnish pharmacies (strictly only with prescreption ofc) but the pharmacies have Been restricted so they aren't allowed to deliver More than 10 tabs at the Time.

The same restriction goes for both available strength of halcyon (0,125mg and 0,25mg).

IMO halcion doesn't live up to it's reputation. I would concider 1mg halcion to equal about 1,5mg alprazolam.


Midazolam IS what everyone IS after here. People smiggling in all The flormidal 15mg here from serbia are literally making a killing ATM.
 
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