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Can You Get High Without Drugs?

sensory deprivation. You can trip major balls completely sober.

and sweat lodges and years of experience in medatation.
 
first off, weed is a drug. anything that forces a change in the flow of neurotransmitters, or in any of the working systems of your body i would consider a drug. but...not saying that puts all drugs on the same plane. i love weed, lsd, mush, etc. but would never do heroin, meth, etc. there are a million ways to classify things in life, the word "drug" just happens to be a popular one. if we used a different trait or term to classify things in life, we'd likely find harmful drugs and non-harmful drugs nowhere near each other.

secondly, about the threads topic. think about the word "high". a high is really only a comparison between two things. your stressed all day and then you get home and relax, thats a high. you dont eat for two days and then eat something, theres definitely a rush i would call a "high". so what i mean is, all you need to do to obtain a high....is obtain a low first. everything in life is relative. everything.
 
Natural psychedelics: Happy little accidents of nature.
We're not intended to have them in our bodies, but they look an awful lot like out own neurotransmitters... so they make things go a little haywire for a time. Then back to normal. Loves it much.
 
pr0digy said:
first off, weed is a drug. anything that forces a change in the flow of neurotransmitters, or in any of the working systems of your body i would consider a drug. but...not saying that puts all drugs on the same plane. i love weed, lsd, mush, etc. but would never do heroin, meth, etc. there are a million ways to classify things in life, the word "drug" just happens to be a popular one. if we used a different trait or term to classify things in life, we'd likely find harmful drugs and non-harmful drugs nowhere near each other.
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Cannabis itself is not a drug but does contain drugs. And he is correct, cannabinoids are psychoactive, so weed dosen't count here. Neither does DMT dread, c'mon :\
 
Yeah I know, I just find it funny how often the "neurotransmitter" or "endogenous" arguments get thrown around in these discussions...
 
I sometimes get an MDMA like feeling when I listen to some of my favorite music on a good system/headphones. I guess I have to be in the right mood as well.

Everything feels great with the world and I stop caring about micro/macro problems and just bask in the beauty of this world and my life.
 
Hm....well now that you mention it, there is a way but its very strainfull and unworthfull, however if you do provoke enough air loss to the brain, or so I've heard, that this can cause dizziness and halucinations, however it will cause a loss of brain cells either way considering your brain isn't getting the needed oxygen to supply these cells. So basically, its in theory, but if you try it out PM me and let me know if it does anything.
 
^ ever done dustoff? that's all it does: deprive your brain of oxygen. it's pretty trippy; hard to describe for me. some of the high feels like mj, a light psychedelic, and a numbing drug put together.

ps, don't do dustoff, only idiots like me have tried it.
 
sure..




lucid dreaming is a croc.
I lucid dreamed before I even knew it was such a thing.
 
lucid dreaming is a croc.
I lucid dreamed before I even knew it was such a thing.
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So how exactly is it a "croc"?

Spontaneous lucid dreams occur on most people, but it takes training to consistently and willingly invoke the lucid state.
 
dread said:
So how exactly is it a "croc"?

Spontaneous lucid dreams occur on most people, but it takes training to consistently and willingly invoke the lucid state.
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LOl at the above posts :D

Meditation is the easiest and most beneficial way to attain a natural high, even enter a pschedelic/entheogenic state. One of the highest periods of my life was when I learned the TM sidhis program for 2 weeks. I've never been so high on life!!!

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, especially for anxiety/depression/ADD/health problems
 
Delta-9-THC said:
Listening to music.

I have had moments comparable to spiritual ecstasy when listening to certain albums. Drugs are not required. You just have to really focus on the music with all your intent.

Only the best music can get you to this place.

One of the most intense moments I have ever had was listening to A Love Supreme by John Coltrane for about the 10th time.

Everything just clicked and I was just in the perfect state of the mind to feel every single subtlety of emotion being conveyed. This album will always hold a special significance for me.

The feeling I am thinking of actually reminds me very much of the comedown from a DMT breakthrough. Absolute contentment. A feeling of total bliss. Laughing/crying at what you just felt/experienced.

Getting deeply focused and in tune with masterful art can be absolutely incredible. Forgot all your worries and just let your mind flow with the music.

Some of the best(most creative/unique) music may require multiple listens until you really get an instinctive feel for the vocabulary they are using. This varies obviously and partly depends on how old or complex the music is. The older it is the less accessible it is likely to be but all good music rewards multiple listens IMO.
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This is the feeling that I get listening to classical music, often it feels like a psychedelic, and it really is one of the best things in life.

I never let music buzz in the background, I always try to revolve whatever I am experiencing around the music, and not vice versa.

If you listen to Coltrane then you probably understand this very well, as he is definitely an artist that you must listen carefully and openly to: I find it is this class of music that can evoke something very powerful in the human spirit.

Perhaps even better yet is combining the two: once under the influence of LSD I simply closed my eyes and listened to 6 of Beethoven's symphonies in still tranquility, and when I opened my eyes it felt like I had just returned from a journey to the 18th century and seen the essence of our Western civilization form out of chaos.

On a final note, I agree that this works with any art: I can sometimes feel this way programming or reading a book. It's just a matter of removing oneself from the illusion of daily life, seeing things truly objectively and embracing the human spirit.
 
dread said:
So how exactly is it a "croc"?

Spontaneous lucid dreams occur on most people, but it takes training to consistently and willingly invoke the lucid state.
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I've never had any problems invoking it.
and a dream only gives you a high when its happening even then its all internal and never psychedelic, sure you can do psychedelic things but you know its just a dream.
 
I dont think iv ever had a lucid dream before, i get really vivid dreams most nights in the week when iv got work in the mornin. but whenever the sun goes down and pretty much all the time im in a lucid frame of mind. i dunno if its always been like this coz i cant remeber.
i think the bet way to get high without usin some kind of drug to induce it is to do an extreme sport or a bungiejump or anything with adrenaline rele or just sittin on the spinnning rock contemplating whatever ticks the tocks... basically meditating
 
Delta-9-THC said:
Listening to music.

I have had moments comparable to spiritual ecstasy when listening to certain albums. Drugs are not required. You just have to really focus on the music with all your intent.

Only the best music can get you to this place.
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Absolutely. I've had some amazing moments with music, from older stuff like Floyd, to newer artists like Karnivool, Porcupine Tree and Dead Letter Circus.

Kim Benzie (DLC's frontman) had an audience chanting "we don't wanna feel something, we don't wanna change" at a recent event - until they (we) realised what they were saying.
 
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