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cali. prop. 19

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im not from America so this kinda confuses me can someone briefly explain how a proposition like this is passed, like if it was voted for legalization, would the ?federal government? carry on enforcing it illegality? like with the medical situation.
also do any of you have an opinion on how many will vote yes? i dont mean you personally but whats your view on how the rest of the population views cannabis?
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I think it works by making pot legal and illegal for the DEA to come in raid people. Right now its legal in cali for medical use but its still illegal in the eyes of our goverment. I think this would change that. Or start another civil war. I went to cali this summer wit my ex and it seemed most people are ok wit it. My ex gf aunt even gave me like 2 grams and a piece to use while i was there. Everyone i met either did it or didnt care. We went camping and one of the guys next to us was talkin about this so i was like hell ya ima smoke a bowl by the fire come to find out he use to be a cop lol. But again he doesnt care. I even read somewhere that most the cops want it to be legal. This all came off the top of my head ill read into it more
 
It will not do anything to the DEA. Cannabis will still be illegal according to the federal government. It will just make it legal in California and local law enforcement cannot arrest you for it.
 
You can read the initiative in it's entirety here: http://yeson19.com/node/6

It will still be federally illegal and the DEA will be free to enforce the federal law. To them I say good luck and have fun. They can't even do it now while it's illegal so I don't see them having much success when it becomes legal on a state level.
 
If this passes im really curious on how the fed. gov. will react to it. I cant see them coming in and arresting random people but it also wouldnt suprise me. Just remember its all about the money wit them. If they were smart they would realize that a nationwide legalization would make them much much more money.
 
The obama administration is heading the DEA right now and even though he doesn't support non-medical legalization I don't he'll persue this and have the DEA raid facilities

The government will also sell weed at approved facilities but will be heavily taxed.

Iv'e heard some were that there will be a $50 an ounce tax but an ounce will only be around $30-$40; $80-$90 for an ounce of dank wont be bad at all.
 
will be history in the making, at least interesting to see play out. how many states would follow? either oregon washington or colorado would be next
 
Prop 19 is fucked up!

Prop 19 lets people who have gotten rich on prop 215 monopolize cannabis production.

Your rights to grow your own garden are taken away, they want full control and all of the $$ going through oakland.


Prop 19 does NOTHING to provide for legit cannabis patients, it is ALL ABOUT COTROL OF THE MARKET.

VOTE NO
 
how are your rights to grow taken away when proposition 19 explicitly give you the right to grow a garden? Proposition 19 does nothing to alter the existing medical marijuana laws. Please read up before spreading disinformation.
 
Prop 19 is fucked up!

Prop 19 lets people who have gotten rich on prop 215 monopolize cannabis production.

Your rights to grow your own garden are taken away, they want full control and all of the $$ going through oakland.


Prop 19 does NOTHING to provide for legit cannabis patients, it is ALL ABOUT COTROL OF THE MARKET.

VOTE NO

If you're going to make bold claims like this, you should back it up with evidence like links to the actual proposition. I have not heard anything even remotely resembling what you are stating here.

And what does Oakland have to do with anything? Last time I checked Sacramento was the capitol of california.
 
how are your rights to grow taken away when proposition 19 explicitly give you the right to grow a garden? Proposition 19 does nothing to alter the existing medical marijuana laws. Please read up before spreading disinformation.



5 ft x 5 ft garden for people, massive warehouses for the new Oakland cartels headed by Richard Lee and his lawyers.

They want to restrict everybody else's right to grow to a 5x5' area.


It sounds good to people who just want to smoke a joint, but this is just a power grab by people who have been making millions $ since prop 215 started. They are milking the sick people and completely leaving them out of the equation this time around.

I'm in the scene and I know what is going on and it's not good. And pot would not be 30-40 an ounce it would be 100-200 still, minimum.
 
5 ft x 5 ft garden for people, massive warehouses for the new Oakland cartels headed by Richard Lee and his lawyers.

They want to restrict everybody else's right to grow to a 5x5' area.


It sounds good to people who just want to smoke a joint, but this is just a power grab by people who have been making millions $ since prop 215 started. They are milking the sick people and completely leaving them out of the equation this time around.

I'm in the scene and I know what is going on and it's not good. And pot would not be 30-40 an ounce it would be 100-200 still, minimum.

Nobody is stopping you from lobbying your local government for the proper permits to start your own commercial operation.
 
Prop 19 is fucked up!

1- Prop 19 lets people who have gotten rich on prop 215 monopolize cannabis production.

2-Your rights to grow your own garden are taken away, they want full control and all of the $$ going through oakland.


3- Prop 19 does NOTHING to provide for legit cannabis patients, it is ALL ABOUT COTROL OF THE MARKET.

VOTE NO

uhhhh, your totally wrong on most of those points. I would say VOTE YES ON 19!!
Its just one step in the right direction on ending this drug war. But lets look at your arguements for a quick sec.

1. Actually if prop 19 passes more folks than ever will be growing, so there goes your monopoly theory. Have people profited from Prop 215? yes, but there are also many people who are basically growing medicine. I hope everyone can have a job that they like to do. That is our "pursuit of happiness" right that we are exercising.

2. Prop 19 says every adult can have their own garden, so rights are not being taken away. As current law stands, if you have a doctors recomendation you can grow your personal amount. I used to live in oakland, the city council made the move to set up a tax structure and large scale grows in warehouses. They missed out on the dot com boom, and they want to position themselves in the market if it goes legal they will be in on it from the start, and collect the tax revenue. Oakland has no control of anything outside the city limits of oakland either.

3. Prop 19 is good for patients . Once its legal I hope more studies can be done so that we can develop certain strains for insomnia, and other conditions. The control of the market will not happen because market forces of capitalism will not allow it. If there is demand, then many small time entrepenaurs will create the supply.

There are a number of growers in N.Cal and elsewhere who are against this proposition and are spreading dis-information. These growers are making huge profits and they do not want others (competition) entering the market of this semi- legal industry. They spread wild rumours like marlboro is buying land in humbolt so they can get in on it, but do not fall for it.

The most recent polls show that 48-49% of likely voters said they will vote yes with 42% no. This is the first time that there has been movement upward toward the 51%magical number.

If you read this far, thank you and I would recommend that you vote absentee (by mail) before november 2. Yes on prop 19- lets make history!
 
what does Oakland have to do with anything? Last time I checked Sacramento was the capitol of california.

Oakland is the weed capitol of cali as of now.

i hope this prop passes but at the same time it doesnt really matter....
cops dont care about weed and you can always get it.
also its gonna put alot of people out of business
 
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