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Breakfast

^I'm not entirely sure what you find so funny... I could be laughing equally hard at your "knowledge" of ketosis, especially when it really seemed like you were actually encouraging for someone to aim for their body to enter that unhealthy state.
 
hey fizzy

are you debating that your body emits ketones from fasting for 16 hours? I didnt urge anybody to jump into ketosis. Its a harsh way to lose bodyfat.

btw I was laughing cuz you really oversimplified things with how bodybuilders prep for a contest. You made it seem like there was one way to get contest-ready, which is laughable. There are a million different valid approaches differing for one's bodytype, metabolism, training style, hormone supplementation, etc.
 
Hm.. where to start...

First of all what are peoples goals? Gain lean muscle? Gain fat? Lose weight? Lose fat? etc...

If you want to gain lean muscle you require a completely different approach then eating a traditional "breakfast" and again this will depend on your genes, body type, supplementation, lifestyle, activities, even family medical history, and most of all the whole mix put together of what work specifically for you..

If you want to lose weight and are not worried about muscle, find your body's minimum caloric intake and try eating that while slowly increasing cardio, reduce calories and increase cardio as needed for your particular wants/needs but keep it within reason and allow yourself a long period of time to measure results (this wont happen over night, or even a week). This will reduce muscle but if you're skinny this isn't really an issue.

If you want to gain lean muscle you need to first break away from "breakfast, lunch, dinner"
You need to eat 6-7 meals a day, so "breakfast" is just "meal 1", if you are clean bulking you'll want to eat a mix of proteins and carbs with each meal, depending on your body type, how your body reacts to weight lifting, etc protein intake should be anywhere from 1-1.8g/lb of body, so a 200lb person should strive to eat 200g of protein evenly divided amongst those 7 meals. Also these proteins should come from a lean source such as skinless lean chicken, very lean cuts of steak, canned tuna in water, tilapia, orange roughy is a bodybuilders favorite, etc. Each meal should also contain a healthy portion of carbs, good body building carbs are brown rice, white rice, wild rice, sweet potatoes, ezekiel breads/cereal, whole grains, all that good stuff. You also want HEALTHY fats to keep your endocrine system happy, I personally like my omegas from fish (salmon, tuna) and sometimes a bit of milled flax seed I'll put on my ezekiel cereal. I would recommend lifting heavy, 3-8 rep range 4 sets pyramiding up in weight and down in reps lifting no more than 8, no less than 3 with good form after a 5-10 minute warm. Start with a heavy compound movement first as your main mass builder and go into more isolated movements as you tire out support muscles. Pick 5-7 different exercises that target a general body part but emphasize different specific muscles. For instance, don't bench press, then dumbbell press, then machine press, then smith machine press....see that word press over and over? same mechanic, a sample chest workout could be Dumbbell presses to start, incline bench press, flys, cable crossovers, and pec deck, again moving from heavier lifts that require balance and support/stabilizer muscles to more isolated machines. Lift up to 5x a week, 6 if you're pro. Always take a day off as you build muscle WHEN RESTING. Tear the muscle at the gym, build it back up with rest. Stretch between sets and throw in some cardio if you want to keep your metabolism reved up and your heart healthy.

Skipping meal 1, or "breakfast" will likely send your body into a catabolic state, meaning it will break down your precious muscle to feed it's more important functions (brain, heart, etc) if you want to gain muscle, you're built of carbohydrates (we are carbon based life forms, most of us) protein, and healthy fats

Also SirTophamHat - never say absolutes, on enough juice, igf1-b, or the newest pro hormone I forget it's name but it's 11x as anabolic as pure test, with the right genes and work out regiment you likely COULD gain muscle while losing fat. In fact there are a few kids (the kid who doesn't have myostatin blockers that work) for instance that could likely build muscle while burning fat. The worlds a big place, the only absolutes are death and taxes.

Oh and to whoever eats 800-1k cals a day for breakfast, at 5+ meals a day that would either put you around 5k+ cals, or for some reason or another your other meals are incredibly small or skipping which is doing 2 things, one expanding your stomach (which can stretch to 3x it's normal size) and storing a lot of those extra cals as fat, and if done frequently enough your body will think that's what it needs to eat normally, and secondly your smaller meals are not supplying your body with enough protein/carbs/nutrients for whatever lifestyle you lead (unless you're a forum troll then by all means do continue). This stomach expanding is one of many reasons why fat people can eat a ton of food and just get fatter and fatter, it was likely originally intended for storing excess food when food was plentiful to make it through times when food was scarce, keep in mind our bodies have evolved over the course of a looooong time relative to the very short period of time when you could just go to the store and buy food. However if you are like 6'7'' 300lbs and juicing then yes I have heard of really big guys taking in 4500-5k cals while stacking lots of supplements.
 
I dont compete homey. I'm 5'6" 172 so if I wanted to compete Im still 25 lbm away from being competetive around 190. I wont take enough drugs that would get me there since I am too afraid of the negative consequences (family disapproval, health risks, sleeping difficulties)
 
OK guys I wasn't considering subjects who are on tons of drugs in my assessment, when I make posts about this kind of stuff I am speaking about the general population not someone with a myostatin gene defect or something. Fuck it, I mean Herschel Walker is 47/48 years old and eats one meal of salad and bread each night but he walks around at 220lbs and 6foot1 and shredded. His entire workout is bodyweight oriented too. No point in trying to make a point if there's always an exception right :! :D
 
I know breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and ideally you should start off with a good amount of protein and a hearty filling...but i just cant seem to get into it! I mean i love breakfast food, but I'm never hungry first thing in the morning. In fact I dont usually get hungry till around 2pm :\ Not to mention I'm super busy with 2 babies that even if i was hungry i dont think i could actually make a complete meal. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thnx
If you really can not manage a meal for breakfast it is not a big deal try something light.

At night peel some veg you like, e.g. carrots celery whatever and put them in water, the following morning you can pick away at these till you get time or until you feel full, you can do this with apples as well, the other thing you could try is having a tub with some nuts and mixed dried fruit and grab a handful of those it is better than nothing if you want to have a breakfast and it might be light enough and not to time consuming for you to manage with the kids:)
 
Breakfast is NOT most important meal of the day. Because there is different type of people. Your body is the MOST IMPORTANT thing to listen for. I - eat about 13.00-14.00 first time and its perfect for me.
 
this morning i had 2 apples, a banana, some grapes and a pint of grapefruit juice. usually i have 2 pieces of toast, but bread isnt very healthy
 
^ many people do not tolerate gluten (a large protein found in wheat). Even if you are not allergic to it you may find you do much better on other carbs (retain less water, have more energy, etc).
 
Okay word :) I just wanted to clarify because pretty much everyone I talk to wants to put on muscle and lose fat or "turn their fat into muscle." and it's sort of hard trying to get across the fact that to gain size at all you need a caloric surplus and that will include putting on lard.

type in google 'bodybuilding + recomposition'

its only impossible if you restrict your mind ;)
 
I was wrong. I will stop talking about absolutes and limits now

sorry

*scurries off to do his hw*
 
Definitely try and make yourself eat breakfast within an hour of waking up. It jumpstarts your metabolism and sets the pace for the day! You can start out with something small and hopefully get into it. Breakfast is my favorite part of the day!
Since you have two little ones, try making breakfast before they are awake (even though that may be very early!) That way eating breakfast is associated with the quiet, peaceful morning - not just forcing yourself to eat because you are told you should. Try oatmeal with banana cut in it. A frozen flaxseed waffle is easy and quick. A yogurt cup with some granola in it. Toast with almond butter and banana. Eggs with feta on a whole wheat english muffin. Breakfast has so many fun options!
 
I know breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and ideally you should start off with a good amount of protein and a hearty filling...but i just cant seem to get into it! I mean i love breakfast food, but I'm never hungry first thing in the morning. In fact I dont usually get hungry till around 2pm :\ Not to mention I'm super busy with 2 babies that even if i was hungry i dont think i could actually make a complete meal. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thnx

Hi dear, not accept the heart's voice always and not remain hungry till 2pm. Every one has some energy to do the daily routine work's and if in start of the day nothing is eaten it's mean that you intended to drive the automobile without fuel. And also you paid attention to 2 child's that's much drastic condition if you do not take breakfast....!

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when you fast you go into ketosis (which is fat burning mode). The ketones in your bloodstream can come out of your bloodstream into your mouth - and they smell kinda funky sometimes.

oiiiii is this the reason that whenever you go on a meth bender, your breathe eventually goes bad? sorry but ive always wanted to know ;)
 
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