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Boycott Singapore - Van's unfair sentance

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people might be against the death penalty, fair enough. if you are against the death penalty, don't go to countries that enforce it. it's pretty fucking simple.
 
Yeah, or don't involve yourself in activities that attract the death penalty as a punishment. Prevention as they say is better than cure....
 
I know this is slightly off topic.

On the news they said that 400g could have endaged 26 000 lives, i no nothing about heroin. Is that just a huge exageration.
 
^ it depends on how its cut and other factors. 26, 000 different people arent going to buy 26,000 seperate doses.


1234 - if my brother was going to take drugs into or out of another country, do you know what i would do? I'd talk some fucking sense into him - or knock some sense into him.

What did Van's brother do? nothing.

Shows how much his own family values his life. and after the deed was found out, now they choose to try and help?

You dont think youve been one-sided with your "moderating"? Sure brad - you done an out-standing job 8)

Go back, right to the start and just review how you've conducted yourself, what youve let some get away with, and what you havent for others. and more to the point - how youve encouraged those who agree with your stance.

You waited right until the end before you stopped taking sides.

threatening some with warnings, and letting others slide? and i suspect the only reason you didnt warn Keystroke is because you dont have the option to.
 
KemicalBurn said:
1234 - if my brother was going to take drugs into or out of another country, do you know what i would do? I'd talk some fucking sense into him - or knock some sense into him.

What did Van's brother do? nothing.
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as i've said three times now, what i'm proposing to you is a hypothetical situation that has NOTHING TO DO WITH DRUGS. come on man, you study science; hypotheses should be your forte.

KemicalBurn said:
You dont think youve been one-sided with your "moderating"? Sure brad - you done an out-standing job 8)

Go back, right to the start and just review how you've conducted yourself, what youve let some get away with, and what you havent for others. and more to the point - how youve encouraged those who agree with your stance.

You waited right until the end before you stopped taking sides.

threatening some with warnings, and letting others slide? and i suspect the only reason you didnt warn Keystroke is because you dont have the option to.
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not really.

i think i made a couple of dodgy decisions at the beginning and then stepped away for a bit - for that very reason - and since then i've conducted myself perfectly well. afaik, being a senior mod, i *can* warn keystroke. why haven't i? because his behaviour hasn't warranted it imo - same as everyone else's.

and of course i'm taking sides! who said i'm not allowed to? i vehemently disagree with yourself, keystroke, et al, and i'm not going to pretend otherwise. but my personal opinions of what i consider to be some pretty horrendous morals do not come into my abilities as a moderator, because i'm mature enough to draw the line between a debate - which this is - and a slanging match - which it has generally not been (and i've edited thus when it has).
 
Rubber_Duck said:
I know this is slightly off topic.

On the news they said that 400g could have endaged 26 000 lives, i no nothing about heroin. Is that just a huge exageration.
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Ooh Ooh! ... I love problem solving.
Sooo ... the most effective way to threaten as many lives as possible with that much heroin would be ....

get a job as a luggage thrower for Singapore airlines and just stuff it into random bags.

Shiny star for me ??
 
onetwothreefour said:
as i've said three times now, what i'm proposing to you is a hypothetical situation that has NOTHING TO DO WITH DRUGS. come on man, you study science; hypotheses should be your forte.
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In all honesty, i havent been reading your posts in their entirity.

But i have answered that (i thought).

If someone i know and care about did something as utterly stupid as what Van did, hen yes. I can honestly say that they i still feel they should take responsibility for their actions.

Its not like he was ignorant of the laws. he knew what he was getting into.

as for your "moderating" - well, we'll just leave it with those quotation marks, shall we?
 
^ You're saying that without feeling. If your emotions really run that thin... and you could take that stance with your own family member... well... fuck!

Life is more complex than clearly defined logic... and if life is that easily explained for someone - they're obviously preventing themselves from most of the emotional benefits [and often discomforts] others are experiencing.

Fairly dry existence without a strong emotional investment/ passion for other people or circumstances!

Humanity [life] > Law :)
 
Because it doesnt have the pseudo-intellectual (bullshit) devices you used to try make yourself come across as having a clue?

Your post is just lots of rhetoric, little substance.
 
preacha said:
here's an idea
if you don't like how singapore treats drug smugglers

dont smuggle drugs there?
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keystroke said:
people might be against the death penalty, fair enough. if you are against the death penalty, don't go to countries that enforce it. it's pretty fucking simple.
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More infallible logic from graduates of Nancy Reagan's "Just-Say-No" School of Philosophy 8)

It's the same logic that prohibitionists use in Parliament's and Senate's the world over to defeat harm minimisation endeavors.

Example:

Clean needles; why do junkies deserve clean needles? They made the stupid decision to inject drugs, they deserve all the disease, overdose and death they get.

Pill testing; if people are stupid enough to risk taking an illegal drug, they deserve to die.

Another example:

If a raver at a dance party takes an ecstasy pill and dies, how is his predicament any different from Nguyen's?

He knew what he was doing, made a conscious decision to take ecstasy, he was fully aware of the consequences but did it anyway. Does he deserve to die? The mission statement of this website would suggest not.

Harm reduction, by it's very nature, demands that people reserve judgement about the risk-taking behavior of others.

Instead of questioning Brad's moderation of this thread, perhaps some of you should consider how your complete inability to exhibit the slightest bit of understanding, compassion or respect for human life reflects upon the aims of Bluelight.

As it's been pointed out, Bluelight is not about supporting heroin smuggling. Then again, it's certainly not about showing callous disregard for someone's life, no matter how stupid or risky their drug-related activities are.
 
"why do junkies deserve clean needles? They made the stupid decision to inject drugs, they deserve all the disease, overdose and death they get."

heh, funny thing is that i agree with this
 
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