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Enki said:
^Grand trines can end up inclining people towards superficiality, because trines are somewhat about the ability to skate through areas where others have to work. I personally don't count the mc or the asc as points for grand trines, if I did I would also count the dec and IC. There is so much potential info in a chart that everyone who does it a while starts making some exclusions. Aspects to those four significant points are considered important by others. Just giving you how I do things and also that I'm mostly glad I don't have any tight orb grand trines.
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An out of sign fairly tight orb grand trine involving Sun, Moon, Neptune, Jupiter (only one out of sign), North Node, and Mars??

I'd put Jupiter back in Leo a day in my natal chart, but it is doing just fine in 12th.

Neptune hits my IC in my grand trine. I will count the angles as is situation-dependent - I really can't ignore prominent aspects to the angles. Likewise with the asteroids. Lilith at 1 Libra on a 29 degree Virgo ascendant is prominent, for example.

I'm getting the shit smacked out of my angles and Uranus smacking my descendant, which is less than a degree from the Aries Point. I am creatively blocked and emotional, but that damn natal Neptune on my IC is helping me function and ironically I haven't been abusing anything really. That transiting Uranus square is not living up to its potential ;) (thankfully)

"As above, so below" is a quote from Alan Oken that basically sums up astrology for me.

I need to get to the rest of this when it's not such a busy time. I want to see some of these charts in alternative chart systems that shift the houses a bit. In the meantime, my Saturn Return has fucked off, I don't think it will be retrograding again, and I'll gladly wait another 29 years for my next.
 
Enki said:
The question of if heavenly bodies are emanating energy or are merely indicative of of a condition like hands on a clock isn't covered much in astrological literature
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The Ancient Wisdom Tradition explains that the
energy originates outside our solar system,
rays streaming to us from three constellations,
the Great Bear, The Pleiades + Sirius in Canus Major.

The energy is transferred by the Sun, which is then in turn
stepped down by the planets, to Earth, through the zodiac,
through Shamballa, and then distributed through the world.

Lots of writing regarding this in Esoteric Literature.
If you are interested I can put up some links.

:)
 
ocean said:
malakaix- You actually have a kite in your chart, which is somewhat rare.....Enki and I just mentioned a kite in our last conversation.....
Every astrologer is different and I personally would include the MC for a grand trine......
Like Enki said, people with grand trines tend to skate through certain areas of life that others don't.
You would look at what planets and signs (and MC in this case) are working together-
Trines are energies working smoothly together, so you would figure the parts making up your grand trine would be areas of your life that are for the most part harmonious.....BUT if you get used to things in those areas running so smoothly, you do not put forth any effort it CAN lead to trouble.
I am not saying this is the situation in any or even most grand trine charts- but when I did my mentorship program- I did a short study on criminals charts and my mentor said Grand Trine people tend to get into more trouble (than my guess which was Grand Cross people) b/c things just come so easy they think they can get away with anything.......
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Oh i see! Thankyou Ocean, and Enki for your detailed replys. I hadn't even noticed these trines in my chart until it arose as topic of conversation within this thread.. which lead me to further questioning and curiosity. :)

It may explain why i find myself to be very lazy in certain aspects of life.
 
ebola? said:
Although Astrology holds no resonance for me...
Cancer sun sign with virgo (moon?) rising and libra fucking everywhere up in this bitch! :D
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We have been over this ;) Thanks K for posting his chart.

You have Virgo rising (as do I). Your stellium is entirely in Libra, except for Jupiter, which is at the first degree of Scorpio. Regardless, it's not the most common configuration, and you have told me you identify with Libra. This should come as a surprise to no one. ;)

As for Grand Trine people, I would not go so far as to say that things come super-easily to us, although that is the lore. Crime (specifically serial killing) is more correlated with Cancer-Sagittarius type. The thorn in my own side as to the darker side of life is most definitely my Mars/NN/Jupiter-Uranus square (respectively, in Leo and Scorpio) and my Sun/Moon conjunction in Aries opposite Pluto, which while out of orb of my Asc (Pluto) makes me act like a naughty little Scorpio at times. However, it's not so bad. My problem is that I completely lack water except for the generational placement of Uranus in Scorpio. I correct this at this point by living on an island :)

I will have to find another example of a Grand Trine. IIRC M. Ghandi had one, but I have so much damn data to go through now and I am doing 1-on-1 teaching to someone who is writing a book on tarot. I can tell my Saturn Return to fuck off basically at this point... you 1981 and 1982 births are in for a nice ride, but the end is worth it. I was so depressed and lost during mine and, well, then everything changed.

How's everyone doing with Uranus at the Aries Point, etc.? I'm quite shaken as it conjuncts my Mercury and Pallas Athene (my favorite asteroid) but hey... expect the unexpected and have fun. :) I've gotten a lot of pleasant surprises and guess what? Haven't lost the plot yet, as Uranus transits can do.

I feel like doing astrological stuff today. :) I'll share any insights/etc. here.
 
^Why is Pallas Athena your favorite asteroid?

So far I'm not feeling much that I've been aware of with Uranus, or Saturn's approach to my natal Saturn.......

There are some mental/spiritual things going on but this is the time of year that I usually get those desires and thoughts- so, it isn't surprising...........
 
ocean said:
^Why is Pallas Athena your favorite asteroid?

So far I'm not feeling much that I've been aware of with Uranus, or Saturn's approach to my natal Saturn.......

There are some mental/spiritual things going on but this is the time of year that I usually get those desires and thoughts- so, it isn't surprising...........
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Re Pallas Athene: I'm my father's daughter. ;) See here. I identify with this asteroid and lo and behold - it's at 2 Aries conjunct my DC and chart ruler.

Re your Saturn Return: it doesn't kick the **** out of everyone and if you have been doing things 'right' karmically it should be an easy ride. Happens to everyone who lives to ~28. I really had to learn that I had to change my life, my attitude, and even my surroundings in order to set things in motion the way I wanted them to be, for the benefit of self and others. Once I did that, my potential was freed up a lot. It was a sigh of relief... or will be when it's totally out of orb (for Saturn I'd allow a big orb).

Kenickie, this article is a little hippy-dippy IMO, but does describe the three Liliths (asteroid, dark moon, and black moon) fairly well: woo-woo.
 
^Saturn Return.........Well, mine is fast approaching.
The closer I get, the better I feel about it. Saturn makes a number of positive aspects in my chart, so I am hoping that my Saturn Return will be a positive one.
Then I only have to wait another 28 years for it to happen again- so either way, I'll be okay! :)
A lot will be happening around the time of my return in other areas of my chart as well (New Moon in Libra at the exact degree of my natal moon and Conj. my Asc. and other crap I listed a page or two ago)
 
We've got a few conjunctions going on right now.........

Sun/Saturn 11/8 deg Libra
Venus/Mars 13 deg Scorpio
Neptune/Chiron 26 deg Aquarius
Jupiter/Uranus 26/28 Pisces
Ceres/Pluto 29 Deg Sag/ 2 Deg Cap



We're coming into a nice cluster in Libra also.............. :)
 
ocean said:
^Saturn Return.........Well, mine is fast approaching.
The closer I get, the better I feel about it. Saturn makes a number of positive aspects in my chart, so I am hoping that my Saturn Return will be a positive one.
Then I only have to wait another 28 years for it to happen again- so either way, I'll be okay! :)
A lot will be happening around the time of my return in other areas of my chart as well (New Moon in Libra at the exact degree of my natal moon and Conj. my Asc. and other crap I listed a page or two ago)
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Nice work on your transits. The Saturn Return happens to everybody who reaches 28-30 and is inevitable. Again, I refer to my "road map" analogy - Saturn is heavy and big and unless very well-aspected, it can be a real pain/kick in the ass.

You will DEFINITELY be OK. <3

I, on the other hand, have Saturn in 12th and it crossed my Ascendant as it returned, retrograded, and did its thing in general. It was squaring my natal Pluto in 4th, which explains my travel (4th is not ruler of travel, but I had to get away from "home" and find what turned out to be 3 others in less than a year!) - I am hopeful that this pattern will not have traumatized me too much. I can still live out of the suitcases I can't bring myself to put away... as much as I want to settle down, I've been released from Saturn's whoopass for the most part. :)

We shall see. :)
 
Thanks for the insight, ocean and ken :) <3. Definitely interesting!

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Yeah a Jup./Nep. conjunction definitely makes sense in my life these days.
 
i've been having a rough time lately --- especially in terms of relationships with "others" -- roommates, government shit, etc :(
 
Keni- The Transiting Sun has been in conjunction with your Natal Sun, Merc and Venus.....
Trsting Mars/Venus(11th hs) and right now the Moon are hovering over your natal Pluto.
Trsting Venus (11th house- clubs, groups, and friendships) also just turned Rx and is sextiling your Neptune and Saturn in the First house. (House of Self)-

There is more but I'm on the phone.
PM me if you want me to look at your chart more........ <3
 
Here comes the fun; Saturn transits..

Saturn square Sun
Saturn square Saturn
Saturn square Neptune

I've already noticed myself questioning every aspect of my being, especially my purpose, direction and goals.
 
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hey that clairvision thing is awesome. for my sisters birthday i was going to present her with a nice big chart, and i think this is the site, if i just edit out some of the annoying "made by clairvision" pages, it would be nice for her to have as she turns 20 on saturday! Libra/Scoripo cusp with a Sag rising...all three of the daughters are Sag rising, it's pretty dope.
 
Saturn Return update:
Though it makes many positive aspects in my chart, it has really thrown a wrench in my gears.
My head space is changing and I am dealing with things heavier than the everyday.
The things I am working through in my head are life changing, so we will see what happens...........
Saturn is out of DIRECT conjunction but within the 5 degree orb I use......(Also conj my Jupiter)
I'll have to look at when it crosses over my moon, ASC and Pluto, which will be soon.............
 
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