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^ that's pretty cool.When was this?

That's exactly what we need to hear, and spread the news viral.

It's about time whenever it was, we all know here that every president of the USA is assigned a personal astrologer, as far as I know.

So many times I get told astrology and palmistry are not sciences - by definition they are sciences, some aspects are theoretical but science all the same as no one would think twice about not calling a theoretical physicist a scientist (apart from Sheldon Cooper perhaps :p)
Foreigner said:
Astrologers are not usually psychic, no. They are just using an interpretive tool. When I say the government uses psychics I am not referring to astrologers but to what the intelligence agencies use.

However, a psychic person doing astrology will see more depth and meaning from the configurations than someone who isn't psychic.

I don't think psychic powers are paranormal or supernatural. They are normal and natural. It's just that they rely on dynamics that science doesn't yet understand.
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I really need to quote you on this. :) summed it up nicely.

Abject said:
Might be the most sensible thing I've seen you post buddy
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you obviously haven't seen her post much then :|
 
So happy to have found this thread.
Here's my info, from what I've gathered thus far (will be adding more):


Sun 14°09': Capricorn in House 10
Moon 18°20': Aries in House 12
Ascendant 29°50': Aries
Mercury 23°40': Capricorn in House 10
Venus 5°34': Aquarius in House 10
Mars 12°18': Sagittarius in House 8
Jupiter 4°43': Cancer in House 3
Saturn 16°03': Capricorn in House 10
Uranus 5°59': Capricorn in House 9
Neptune 12°10': Capricorn in House 9
Pluto 17°11': Scorpio in House 7
Node 16°56': Aquarius in House 11
Lilith 3°17': Sagittarius in House 8
Chiron 14°39': Cancer in House 4
MC 14°48': Capricorn


House 1 29°50': Aries
House 2 3°01': Gemini
House 3 25°04': Gemini
House 4 14°48': Cancer
House 5 7°07': Leo
House 6 8°53': Virgo
House 7 29°50': Libra
House 8 3°01': Sagittarius
House 9 25°04': Sagittarius
House 10 14°48': Capricorn
House 11 7°07': Aquarius
House 12 8°53': Pisces


Dominant planets: Saturn 20.8%, the Sun 14.7% and Neptune 13.1%
Dominant signs: Capricorn 56.3%, Aries 20% and Sagittarius 8.3%
Dominant houses: 10 49.2%, 9 17% and 12 11.1%
Modes: Cardinal - 82.8%, Fixed - 8.9%, Mutable 8.3%


A few of my active planetary aspects (listing my stronger ones):

Sun square Moon, orb 4° 11'
Sun conjunction Saturn, orb 1° 54'
Sun conjunction Neptune, orb 1° 58'
Sun conjunction Midheaven, orb 0° 39'
Moon square Saturn, orb 2° 17'
Moon square Midheaven, orb 3° 32'
Saturn conjunction Midheaven, orb 1° 15'
Neptune conjunction Midheaven, orb 2° 37'
Pluto sextile Midheaven, orb -2° 23'
 
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And here is my chart, as well:


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Ur Zodiac Sun Sign and Moon Sign?

Figured this thread fit here, since so many see the constellations and stars in general as spiritual. What is everyones Sun sign and Moon sign and do they match ur personality?Do you think that there is any truth in the zodiac? (You can google the two together type: Sun sign of ____ with a moon sign of ______. Would post a link but its hard 2 do on my phone,if someone finds a good one plz post)

My Sun sign is Gemini and my Moon sign is Taurus. These two together are often considered one of the most popular personality combinations in the zodiac ^.^ Standing by themselves, Gemini definatly matches me when it comes to its positive traits and like one of the negative traits. As for Taurus, the positives also match me fairly well along with a few more of the negatives than Gemini. Together, they are almost a dead ringer for my personality.
 
i didnt know there was a sun and a moon one. how does that work? alls i know is i was born in july and am a cancer. from what i have read my personality definitely fits that of a cancer.
 
laugh said:
i didnt know there was a sun and a moon one. how does that work? alls i know is i was born in july and am a cancer. from what i have read my personality definitely fits that of a cancer.
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Yes,everyone has a sun and moon sign. If I remember correctly, ur moons sign is based on which constellation the moon was in during ur actual time of birth. So 2 find it out,one would need 2 know what time they were born and what time zone. Ppl also get some of their traits from their moon sign as well and depending on the combination with ur sun sign the two together will also have traits.

It is actually possible to show traits of two different constellations n ur sun sign btw.This happens when u are born on a cusp,which is the time period between signs.

Pariahprose
 
Capricorn sun, Taurus Moon

The good-natured Taurus moons are sociable, good company and sensual. Life is worth living for them. They are emotionally balanced, inwardly and outwardly reliable and steady. They like to finish a project, before they start a new one. In turn they lack a bit of spontaneity. They like a regular life and they need a secure hold. Easily they overestimate material securities. Therefore they develop the capacity to make a lot of money and - above all - to keep it. Avarice is not their problem, therefore they enjoy life too much, and they are preoccupied with their bodily well being. Taurus - moons should learn not to take money too important. In relationships they are devoted, tender and steady. Since they are emotionally steady and radiate tranquility, they give energy to others.
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Pariahprose said:
Do you think that there is any truth in the zodiac? (You can google the two together type: Sun sign of ____ with a moon sign of ______. Would post a link but its hard 2 do on my phone,if someone finds a good one plz post)
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No.. there is absolutely no truth in it. They are full of ambiguous, could fit anyone (and does fit most people.. especially if it is a positive) statements or lucky hits (but there are just as many failed).

Read another sign as if it were yours.. people will generally fit all or most of them.. Try it on a few friends (that believe in the zodiac).. read out a sign that isn't theirs as if it is..

Reading mine.. yeah it KINDA fits me in some ways.. but it is completely wrong in parts.

The Forer effect (also called the Barnum effect after P. T. Barnum's observation that "we've got something for everyone") is the observation that individuals will give high accuracy ratings to descriptions of their personality that supposedly are tailored specifically for them, but are in fact vague and general enough to apply to a wide range of people. This effect can provide a partial explanation for the widespread acceptance of some beliefs and practices, such as astrology, fortune telling, graphology, and some types of personality tests.
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In 1948, psychologist Bertram R. Forer gave a personality test to his students. He told his students they were each receiving a unique personality analysis that was based on the test's results and to rate their analysis on a scale of 0 (very poor) to 5 (excellent) on how well it applied to themselves. In reality, each received the same analysis:
“ You have a great need for other people to like and admire you. You have a tendency to be critical of yourself. You have a great deal of unused capacity which you have not turned to your advantage. While you have some personality weaknesses, you are generally able to compensate for them. Your sexual adjustment has presented problems for you. Disciplined and self-controlled outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. You pride yourself as an independent thinker and do not accept others' statements without satisfactory proof. You have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be pretty unrealistic. Security is one of your major goals in life. ”
On average, the rating was 4.26, but only after the ratings were turned in was it revealed that each student had received identical copies assembled by Forer from various horoscopes.[2] As can be seen from the profile, there are a number of statements that could apply equally to anyone. These statements later became known as Barnum statements, after P. T. Barnum.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ifi0FpXRT2k
 
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^get out, ignorant naysayer.

Logic cannot explain everything - everything in the universe is enery connected - the stars in our galaxy affect us, as do the moon and stars. Anyone who says otherwise does not know what they are talking about - the reason horoscopes don't always work is because charlatans jump on a bandwagon, and people who intuit things can get things wrong - external factors can cloud their judgement - empaths like me for instance can get confused and mirror other peoples thoughts and ideas. Also some people can intuit everything falsely - in the instance of people with a bow of intuition on the palm which is reversed. People with intuitive natures will be infinitely better at producing horoscopes than someone else who just thinks it would be cool to do astrology.


THat's the last on the subject I'm going to waste with you Nick - As paulo coelho said "don't waste your time with explanations; people only hear what they want to hear." - and you only want to follow the status quo, which is conditioned, so we don't undestand our true natures and rise to be free of oppression.
 
logic said:
Noun
Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity: "experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic".
A particular system or codification of the principles of proof and inference: "Aristotelian logic".
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Logically the alternative is complete random nonsense.

The moon and stars have no affect on our personality.

I didn't read mine looking for things that are wrong.. they just are.. Mine said something about having great will power.. I don't.. The bits that were correct were barnum statements.. You can't deny that they exist (it's been proven time and time again) and that all these paranormal beliefs are FULL of them. A lot of the stuff written on my one starts with "Most" or "Some".. Which kind of covers their ass if it's not you.. But they are still followed by a positive Barnum statement. But what you are basically saying is that if it fits, it's because you want it to.. YOU only hear what you want to hear. I'm capable of looking at things objectively.

Follow the status quo.. you keep saying that.. I don't. The status quo in this thread are you and your beliefs. In real life? No. I don't believe what I believe because everyone else does.. If that were the case, wouldn't I be religious in some way or another?

In case you didn't bother reading it, which I'm guessing you didn't:

http://www.livescience.com/9292-wobbly-earth-means-horoscope-wrong.html

Here's another

http://www.livescience.com/4667-astrological-sign.html

And just for fun;

http://www.youthink.com/quiz.cfm?obj_id=80402

Has anyone tried my experiment idea yet? Read out the wrong one to a friend who believes in this (without telling them it's not theirs) and see how many hits you get.

Also some people can intuit everything falsely
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Yes, yes they can.
 
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... *tsk* I'm not even going to try that questionnaire, simply because reading the stars is a science - the answers there are all based on subjective opinion and experience, and therefore one of the lowest and most impure forms of knowledge.
 
Did you read the 2 that say pretty much all zodiac signs can't be right, even if real, because of the earths precession?

Astrological signs are determined by the position of the sun relative to certain constellations on a person's day of birth. The problem is, the positions were determined more than 2,000 years ago. Nowadays, the stars have shifted in the night sky so much that horoscope signs are nearly a month off.

Even if the astrological signs were stable, there's no evidence the stars have anything to do with people's day-to-day existence. One 2006 study published in the journal Personality and Individual Differences used data from more than 15,000 people and found no relationship between date of birth and personality.
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Whatever constellation you think was in the sky on your birthday, you are wrong.. by one.

Click for the sign you should be.
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Despite the complete lack of scientific and observational evidence for astrology, 25 percent of Americans still believe in it, a recent Pew survey found. So here are the "real" dates of astrological signs, according to astronomers:

Capricorn: Jan. 20-Feb. 16.

Aquarius: Feb. 16-March 11.

Pisces: March 11-April 18.

Aries: April 18-May 13.

Taurus: May 13-June 21.

Gemini: June 21-July 20.

Cancer: July 20-Aug. 10.

Leo: Aug. 10-Sept. 16.

Virgo: Sept. 16-Oct. 30.

Libra: Oct. 30-Nov. 23.

Scorpio: Nov. 23-29.

Ophiuchus: Nov. 29-Dec. 17.

Sagittarius: Dec. 17-Jan. 20.


B1tO'RoughJack said:
... *tsk* I'm not even going to try that questionnaire, simply because reading the stars is a science - the answers there are all based on subjective opinion and experience, and therefore one of the lowest and most impure forms of knowledge.
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Horoscopes and zodiac signs, etc, are ALL subjective.
 
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Sun - Aries. Moon - Leo.

I definitely believe in astrology. It has been proved to me irrefutably through observation. I used to be quite obsessed with astrology (myself). Twelve months of the year, twelve zodiac signs.

those that refute it, try this: Take five of your friends, your real friends. If you only have one, then take one. Your friends will almost always correspond with your compatible star signs.

I begin with aries, because it stands at the beginning of the zodiac, spring, march 21.

Aries - (leo, aries, saggitarius, gemini, taurus, capricorn)

Taurus - (capricorn, virgo, taurus, leo, pisces, libra,)

Cancer - (gemini, capricorn, libra, scorpio, pisces, leo,

Gemini - (leo, aries, cancer, gemini, libra, aquarius,)

Leo - (aries, saggitarius, leo, taurus, cancer, gemini, capricorn)

Virgo - (Taurus, capricorn, saggitarius, virgo, scorpio,)

Libra - (aquarius, gemini, pisces, taurus, cancer)

scorpio - (leo, capricorn, pisces, cancer, virgo)

saggitarius - (leo, aries, virgo, pisces, aquarius, saggitarius)

Capricorn, ( pisces, virgo, taurus, leo, aries, scorpio)

pisces, ( saggitarius, cancer, scorpio, libra, pisces, taurus)
 
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What mechanism would this "effect" be mediated by? The apparent positions of the stars in the sky has little bearing on their actual location in space. Further, they can't really do anything to us, the influence of distant stars is indescribably small, and the only meaningful thing about them is truly tiny amount of electromagnetic energy we can detect from them (i.e. starlight...Xrays and gamma rays above the atmosphere, some radio waves make it down to earth too) Gravity, I guess, but come on guys, come on, a pinhead a football field away exerts more gravitational tug on you than distant stars do. In any event, all gravity is does accelerate you (no different than being in an elevator, except the elevator is of a much larger magnitude) and the starlight and radio-waves will be absorbed by your body tissues and like heat them up by maybe 1 x 10-9999999999999999 degrees
 
Yup, pretty much. ;)
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There is a thread for compilation of astrology-related posts, which I'm going to merge this thread into. Next time, please do a search before posting.

ebola
 
doug83 said:
I begin with aries, because it stands at the beginning of the zodiac, spring, march 21.)
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Then you should actually be Pisces, thanks to precession (read my previous links).

those that refute it, try this: Take five of your friends, your real friends. If you only have one, then take one. Your friends will almost always correspond with your compatible star signs.
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They are all pretty much Barnum statements. For those that refute it, try this: Take a group of your friends and each read them, individually, a DIFFERENT zodiac definition to their own, pretending it is their own. See how many people fit most or all of them.
 
^I will try that at least. I will try it on myself too - reading a different zodiac spec as if it were my own...see how much bearing it has.
rangrz said:
What mechanism would this "effect" be mediated by? The apparent positions of the stars in the sky has little bearing on their actual location in space. Further, they can't really do anything to us, the influence of distant stars is indescribably small, and the only meaningful thing about them is truly tiny amount of electromagnetic energy we can detect from them (i.e. starlight...Xrays and gamma rays above the atmosphere, some radio waves make it down to earth too) Gravity, I guess, but come on guys, come on, a pinhead a football field away exerts more gravitational tug on you than distant stars do. In any event, all gravity is does accelerate you (no different than being in an elevator, except the elevator is of a much larger magnitude) and the starlight and radio-waves will be absorbed by your body tissues and like heat them up by maybe 1 x 10-9999999999999999 degrees
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you seem like the kinda guy who loves the sound of his own voice...
 
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