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psytaco
Bluelighter
I wanted to cut it so it isn't all gluggy and so it won't stick to a card/key. At the moment its just wet - so advice on evaporation is just as welcome. I'm sure it will smoke fine, but sometimes its more appropriate to do a line.
Hehe, I'm a poet, and I know it.
Hehe, I'm a poet, and I know it.
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Verybuffed
Bluelighter
Why's that Sust?
psycosynthesis
Bluelighter
^Not sure myself, heard some nasty reports in EDD about folk snorting meph cut with creatine and having some nasty reactions i/e nosebleeds.
Verybuffed
Bluelighter
Thanks mate, that's why I asked. The original Neo range had creatine listed in their ingredients but who knows what was really in them.
footscrazy
Bluelight Crew
drug_mentor said:
If it really hurts, I just dip my finger in a glass of water and snort a drop of water. Also helps to move it along if it's all just clagged up your nose.
I used to cut shards with baking soda sometimes for people who wanted lines of 'speed', don't know how good of an idea that is though.
psytaco
Bluelighter
Just tried a couple of short lines of the stuff. not bad, will reserve my judgement for when i get a chance to smoke it.
its pretty hard to cut up due to all the moisture. not sure if I'll bother cutting it or not.
its pretty hard to cut up due to all the moisture. not sure if I'll bother cutting it or not.
puckboy
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Why cut drugs like speed yourself? Seems completely foreign to me.
I shouted this girl half an E once, that was crushed up, so she was going to snort it. But she wanted to mix it with sugar!? because it just burnt too bad according to her. Anyway she went to pour a little bit of sugar ontop of her pile of crushed ecstasy and the lid fell off and the ENTIRE jar of sugar poured onto the table making the crushed ecstasy impossible to find or use. I lol'd, then felt sorry for her.
Let that be a lesson to never cut drugs yourself
I shouted this girl half an E once, that was crushed up, so she was going to snort it. But she wanted to mix it with sugar!? because it just burnt too bad according to her. Anyway she went to pour a little bit of sugar ontop of her pile of crushed ecstasy and the lid fell off and the ENTIRE jar of sugar poured onto the table making the crushed ecstasy impossible to find or use. I lol'd, then felt sorry for her.
Let that be a lesson to never cut drugs yourself
Smoifer
Bluelighter
Never understood why people cut their own speed :S if you can't line it just scoop it out with a note and huff it up that way... Ha or just stick it straight in the pipe!
I'd been getting the sticky yellowish stuff pretty consistently up until about a fortnight ago, if it's the same it will have quite a few little rocks through it as well and will smoke fine, was alright but nothing to brag about although i had a few good sessions on it...
Been getting some nice white/clear stuff at the moment a quarter is just one big fuck off rock and burns clean as and smokes for ages, evil shit! Had me going from Fri morning till Sunday night on a smaller than normal dose and I would've been going alot longer if i hadn't necked a couple valium to knock me out on Sunday night... Comedown was a shocker tho my head still isn't right but i spose that's more to do with not eating or sleeping for 60-70 odd hours than anything.... Time for a break from the persians me thinks...
I'd been getting the sticky yellowish stuff pretty consistently up until about a fortnight ago, if it's the same it will have quite a few little rocks through it as well and will smoke fine, was alright but nothing to brag about although i had a few good sessions on it...
Been getting some nice white/clear stuff at the moment a quarter is just one big fuck off rock and burns clean as and smokes for ages, evil shit! Had me going from Fri morning till Sunday night on a smaller than normal dose and I would've been going alot longer if i hadn't necked a couple valium to knock me out on Sunday night... Comedown was a shocker tho my head still isn't right but i spose that's more to do with not eating or sleeping for 60-70 odd hours than anything.... Time for a break from the persians me thinks...
andyturbo
Bluelight Crew
yes, the price of ice has doubled in melbourne, exactly. And the quality is no better than that 2 years ago (before things went down the shitter) yet its twice (if not more) the price.. rediculous
footscrazy
Bluelight Crew
^^ The stuff I've been getting has more than doubled in price, but the purity is waaay up, this stuff is so strong it's like a different drug. But, now I've noticed the purity is going down again, while the price is staying the same - reckon they're trying to get us used to the new price and making the stuff shitter and shitter 
^^ The stuff I've been getting has more than doubled in price, but the purity is waaay up, this stuff is so strong it's like a different drug. But, now I've noticed the purity is going down again, while the price is staying the same - reckon they're trying to get us used to the new price and making the stuff shitter and shitter
^Thats the same with me, although I found with my guy, I think he buys in bulk and starts to cut it. Now if you bought of him just as he restocked, you would get really good speed, but if you got it after a few weeks, it would be very heavily cut as he is trying to make it last longer and the quality greatly deminished. Kinda a shitty thing to do, but ohwell I guess thats the way the it goes.
Sustanon
Bluelighter
Best to find someone who doesnt cut n buys bulk. Kinda makes me angry to when its so heavily cut. Why cant it be pure if we are bloody paying the full amount. Not really into ice thesedays. The so called "base"or how u guys like to call it is cut ice anyway which is quarter price. Most people are paying extra for the name of the drug or the way it looks. Cut base all the waaaaay hahahaha
Sustanon
Bluelighter
Theres no way of telling how pure ur stuff is. Do u have any mg scales? Best bet is to just try 30-50mg first time then go from there.
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not the best pic bit hard to tell, probably not as dark, they are more transparent.
This is the best pic i could quickly find in the gallery.
http://www.bluelight.ru/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48011&cat=503&si=meth&perpage=15
Looks like this but a bit less wet and red, prob got about half as much as well.
This is the best pic i could quickly find in the gallery.
http://www.bluelight.ru/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=48011&cat=503&si=meth&perpage=15
Looks like this but a bit less wet and red, prob got about half as much as well.
Sustanon
Bluelighter
Ahhh so its white? Thought u said maroon? Ive came across that stuff a while ago. Has a pretty strong smell and was pretty decent. I donno if its the same, the prob with id-ing speed is that u never know wheres it from or what they cut it with.
madmick19
Bluelight Crew
From memory the coloration that occurs in meth is a by product of the route of synthesis and products used namely iodine.
Taken from www.amphetamines.com
Methamphetamine in its pure hydrochloride salt form is colorless. However, products on the market today are often not colorless. The following is a table of some common impurities and the colors associated with them. Note: There is no doubt a segment of the dealers who will add food coloring or some other such color to their drug to make it more appealing, with the philosophy that a brightly-colored product may sell better than an off color product. This is relatively uncommon however.
* RED: The product was made from pseudoephedrine, and the red coloring of the tablet was not adequately washed away (it is difficult)
* ORANGE: Ephedrine sulfate was used, and some of the sulfate was reduced to sulfur.
* PURPLE: Iodine from a phosphorus-iodine reaction was not washed out.
* GREEN: Copper (or other metallic) salts somehow made their way in to the mixture, probably due to the reaction vessel used in the manufacture.
* BROWN: Oxidized red coloring (see above), or tablating agent was present in the reduction.
Sometimes "speed" is present as waxy rocks that almost seem wet, but do not dry out properly. I am not sure what the cause of this is, but its most likely some form of oil, either formed in the reaction or left over from a very poor solvent. It may or may not be harmless depending upon what it is. This oil is often removed with acetone, but ethyl-ether would be better suited for this as it dries faster.
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The red is red phosphorus, white is the ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, and blue is iodine, used to make hydroiodic acid. If you aren't careful, you can expose yourself to highly toxic phosphine gas. White phosphorus with sodium hydroxide produces the gas, usually as a result of overheating red phosphorus, plus white phosphorus can autoignite and blow up the meth lab.
Taken from www.amphetamines.com
Methamphetamine in its pure hydrochloride salt form is colorless. However, products on the market today are often not colorless. The following is a table of some common impurities and the colors associated with them. Note: There is no doubt a segment of the dealers who will add food coloring or some other such color to their drug to make it more appealing, with the philosophy that a brightly-colored product may sell better than an off color product. This is relatively uncommon however.
* RED: The product was made from pseudoephedrine, and the red coloring of the tablet was not adequately washed away (it is difficult)
* ORANGE: Ephedrine sulfate was used, and some of the sulfate was reduced to sulfur.
* PURPLE: Iodine from a phosphorus-iodine reaction was not washed out.
* GREEN: Copper (or other metallic) salts somehow made their way in to the mixture, probably due to the reaction vessel used in the manufacture.
* BROWN: Oxidized red coloring (see above), or tablating agent was present in the reduction.
Sometimes "speed" is present as waxy rocks that almost seem wet, but do not dry out properly. I am not sure what the cause of this is, but its most likely some form of oil, either formed in the reaction or left over from a very poor solvent. It may or may not be harmless depending upon what it is. This oil is often removed with acetone, but ethyl-ether would be better suited for this as it dries faster.
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The red is red phosphorus, white is the ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, and blue is iodine, used to make hydroiodic acid. If you aren't careful, you can expose yourself to highly toxic phosphine gas. White phosphorus with sodium hydroxide produces the gas, usually as a result of overheating red phosphorus, plus white phosphorus can autoignite and blow up the meth lab.
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hyroller
Bluelighter
speed is dead in melbourne right now 
lots of white, powdery ketone getting around... many people mixing ketone (which has the legs) and pseudo (which has the balls) to enhance the quality of the different sorts out there.
all in all it's disappointing though. shit is cut up the wazoo compared to a few months back.
I'm not even bothering until something good crops up.
be lucky to find killer shards once every 3-6 months, if you're willing to pay top dollar. that is the market we find ourselves in now. time to let go of the past & make do with what we have, as shitty as it is![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
lots of white, powdery ketone getting around... many people mixing ketone (which has the legs) and pseudo (which has the balls) to enhance the quality of the different sorts out there.
all in all it's disappointing though. shit is cut up the wazoo compared to a few months back.
I'm not even bothering until something good crops up.
be lucky to find killer shards once every 3-6 months, if you're willing to pay top dollar. that is the market we find ourselves in now. time to let go of the past & make do with what we have, as shitty as it is
Smoifer
Bluelighter
Ah i feel for you mate! The speed where I am, from my recent source (last 3-4months) was nothing to write home about but the latest batch is awesome! Had people coming back telling me it was up there with the shard that's getting around atm.. Awesome stuff but starting to wonder how long it's going to stay like that. I'd probably rate it up there with in the top 3 of louie I've ever bought in Melb, just keeps going and going and going and going 
All rock and burns for ages and as clean as all fcuk! But then it's not passing through many hands at all before it find's it's way into my pocket so cutters aren't a concern...
All rock and burns for ages and as clean as all fcuk! But then it's not passing through many hands at all before it find's it's way into my pocket so cutters aren't a concern...- Status