• 💊 OTHER DRUGS 💊 Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Notable Threads 1 Notable Threads 2
    Dangerous Combos Addiction Support
    Emergency Services Benzo Guide v.1
    Addiction Stories Scary Case Studies
    Biology, Pharmacology & Drugs 101
  • Select Your Topic Then Scroll Down
    Alcohol Bupe Benzos
    Cocaine Heroin Opioids
    RCs Stimulants Misc
    Harm Reduction All Topics Gabapentinoids
    Tired of your habit? Struggling to cope?
    Want to regain control or get sober?
    Visit our Recovery Support Forums

Black tar; the dark end of the street.

garuda said:
Saw this a long time ago, something to think about is that some of the well dressed people walking by in some scenes could have bigger heroin habits then the mentally unbalanced street dwellers.
Click to expand...


Possibly, but unfortunately the filmmaker did not show us the lives of these others. Probably because they weren't so irrational as to let someone tape their drug use and show it to the world.
 
phrozen said:
I wonder how much actual money he gave them? And, was it upfront?
Click to expand...

Those are good questions. You would think that junkies would definitely want money upfront, but that would seem too risky. They could just take his money and not come back. I'm sure once they realized they could get money from the guy just for being on camera, they had no problem with it. Hell, they probably were calling up begging to be taped. It beats the hell out of prostitution.
 
johnnyb420 said:
yeah it was shot back in the mid 90's

the scene has not changed much in the tenderloin or the haight

SF is full of some hardcore tarheads even back then dope was only 60 bucks a gram now it is even cheaper

the damage that tar does to the body has not changed even if the price and quality have gotten better

allmost all of the junkies they showed had scabs and were out of viens

that was hardcore seeing them shoot dope in the neck fuckin hardcore
Click to expand...

It made me extremly uncomfortable to watch them shoot in their neck. I saw them doing that and it made me things of all the STUPID risks I have taken to get high. I honestly had to turn away. It looked like me. (I have never and will NEVER shoot in my neck.)
 
SonOF said:
random thought: the filmmaker put himself in a lot of risk by being in such close company with drug users and drug dealers. If cops busted in on one of those rooms, I don't think "I'm just filming a documentary" would have gotten him out of anything. that's definitely respectable to risk so much for your art.
Click to expand...

Eh, never been to San Francisco but it seems cops there have better things to do then call a raid on some users. It all depends on where you are, some places are very bad. I was shocked at them shooting up in public, damn broad daylight.

But alot of these junkies were obviously a little off mentally before even touching H, combine that with limited financial means and its obvious how they got in their condition.
I'd like to see a documentary about the many junkies that hold down demanding jobs and have "normal" lives. Obviously such users are heavily closeted and for good reason, but surely they could be pixeled out and have their voice masked.

I mean every docu focuses on desperate, possibly mentally ill vagrants and thats not representative of junkies as a whole.
 
When looking at related vids I found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fttlX9SpbZY

It discusses the heroin addiction problem in Iran (highest addiction rate in the world), and how the new government, despite being headed by Muslim fundamentalists, are actually quite progressive with their heroin rehab policy.

Isn't it great to know that IRAN, a country that a few years ago used to EXECUTE people who were caught in possession of 2+ grams of heroin (under Ayatollah Khomeini; mentions this in the video), now has a more progressive drug policy than the United States? :|

The one guy interviewed says he used to IV 7 grams a day, he would have full syringes lined up and would take one out and immediately insert another. That's a serious habit.
 
Like any really good documentary, this one (which I had never seen before) humanizes it's subjects perfectly and doesn't assign blame though it suggests why these people have found themselves in this predicament.

I can't get some of those images out of my head, specifically the ones of Jessica.
 
It seems kind of funny, really.

"We'll pay you to further your addiction, as long as you let us watch you destroy yourself and show the world."

Not saying that they wouldn't have done it themselves anyway though.
 
SonOF said:
When looking at related vids I found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fttlX9SpbZY

It discusses the heroin addiction problem in Iran (highest addiction rate in the world), and how the new government, despite being headed by Muslim fundamentalists, are actually quite progressive with their heroin rehab policy.

Isn't it great to know that IRAN, a country that a few years ago used to EXECUTE people who were caught in possession of 2+ grams of heroin (under Ayatollah Khomeini; mentions this in the video), now has a more progressive drug policy than the United States? :|

The one guy interviewed says he used to IV 7 grams a day, he would have full syringes lined up and would take one out and immediately insert another. That's a serious habit.
Click to expand...

That was a great documentary. Thanks for the link!
 
support needle exchange programs.
dont know what else to say about that except thanks (?) for the link.
 
Tar must be really hard on your veins. I mean i know ppl who have been shooting dope for over 10 years and can still hit in their arms.

that shit was really shocking. But yeah, I think some of those ppl may have emotional/behavioral disorders, b/c it seems that i have a bigger habit than a lot of those ppl, and yet i am a senior in college. I feel kinda stupid trying to convince myself that im "better" than them, b/c i mean, im a junkie too. its just really scary to see ppl live such a dangerous, meager existence. it makes me wonder if i could hit a bottom like that in order to keep using.


oh, and yeah, i really wish we had a needle exchange program here. i mean, i dont use with anyone else so i dont have to worry about sharing, but i haate reusing needles. its so much harsher on my arms.

That was a really powerful film though.
 
SPUNK said:
that shit was really shocking. But yeah, I think some of those ppl may have emotional/behavioral disorders, b/c it seems that i have a bigger habit than a lot of those ppl, and yet i am a senior in college. I feel kinda stupid trying to convince myself that im "better" than them, b/c i mean, im a junkie too. its just really scary to see ppl live such a dangerous, meager existence. it makes me wonder if i could hit a bottom like that in order to keep using.
Click to expand...

This is something I really try to keep in the front of my mind. I would agree that some people on the street may have psychological disorders in addition to their addiction that complicates the matter. Although, I think this can be a dangerous mind set in some respects as well. I don't think anyone on the street intended to end up there. If ya think about it, I could make one choice one month to buy dope instead of paying rent- and could be evicted and on the streets pretty quick.

I don't know that it can be completely explained by additional psych problems. It could be a few bad choices, or even a few difficult financial events and someone in a home/apartment could be homeless pretty quick.

I do realize that you are NOT saying you're better than others. I do think it can be dangerous thinking education eliminates the possibility of this happening.


SPUNK said:
oh, and yeah, i really wish we had a needle exchange program here. i mean, i dont use with anyone else so i dont have to worry about sharing, but i haate reusing needles. its so much harsher on my arms.
Click to expand...


Are you sure you don't have any in your area? If you really don't, this is something that is worth investing in even if you have to pay the $. Syringes/needles are not very expensive to buy and are available OTC and online - check the legality for your area. You had another post that concerned me; you haven't specified how many times you are reusing - but honestly any reuse is going to damage your veins. Needles (manufactured currently) are NOT made for more than one use. Sticking a dull needle in your arm (or any vein/skin) will cause more scarring than a sharp, fresh one. If you continue to stick needles in scar tissue, it will progressively thicken eventually either blocking that access with scar tissue, collapsing, and even preventing effective circulation.

There was actually some pictures posted a while back that showed what happened to a needle after 1 stick, then 2, then 3 etc. I don't know how accurate those shots were, and seem to recall that was part of the discussion in the thread I'm thinking about. I will try to see if I can get a good shot with one of my scopes- I think it would be beneficial to all iv users to see what happens each time the skin is punctured.

Anyway, I just wanted to say be careful! If you want to be able to inject for any length of time, fresh needles are essential. I'm not even considering how important they are for issues of sterility and safety due to that (and that is a big factor as well!).

I'm getting kind of rambley, but I'll see what kind of pics I can get of needles in various states of reuse.
 
Newneedle.JPG


brutal
 
^Cool, thanks for finding that. I'd like to try and replicate it and see if the damage is really that dramatic.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top