BLACK TAR...Just as I SUSPECTED.

[Frank Zito]

Well, My boy was hyping the arrival of his friend from the West Coast and amping the fact that he would be bringing back a couple of ounces of TAR. Now, I have heard nothing but BAD shit about tar but I WANTED to try the shit out to satisfy my curiosity.

So...AFTER much haggling with my friend's friend, who by the way, was a TOTAL ass clown, I obtained a couple of balloons. I was warned by dude who I purchased off of to only do a little cause the shit was "BOMB ASS". He equated a balloon, maybe .2, to doing a 160 millies of OX.

Yeah, RIGHT. TAR heroin is SHIT. I'm so fucking glad that I live in the MIDWEST. The shittiest powder I get makes supposedly good tar look like codeine. I know that the TAR was at LEAST decent by some standards cause my boy got a little ripped. I probably did a quarter g. and the shit didn't touch me at all. Later, like an hour or so, I did 2 bags of my regular (DETROIT) dope and that shit blew me back.

I FEEL sorry for people that are stuck with tar. I'm not trying to be snobby or nothing though. Maybe my tolerance came into play. I dunno'. I just know that I WILL never do that shit again. Well, I will give it a chance or two to see if my one go 'round was an anomaly.

 

[phr]

Without a question, that's more of a journal entry...

How about: For the people that have tried both tar and powder, which do you prefer?

 

[Frank Zito]

Without a question, that's more of a journal entry...

How about: For the people that have tried both tar and powder, which do you prefer?

Yeah, good point PHROZEN...Which DO people prefer? How many different types of horse have peeps out there tried?

I have done DOPE from...DETROIT, Chicago, Lansing, Milwaukee, Salt Lake City, New York, and Ohio...

I have done: light tan CHUNKS that look like kitty litter, bone white rocks, white powder with black specks, light tan powder with DARK brown chunks, ash grey, shit that was brown but broke off the rock in flakes like a Butterfinger candy bar, etc...

 

[sonic]

Now this is turning into a regional thread.. remember, not everyone who posts in here is from the states. I'll leave the thread here for now since it's not completely a regional thread yet.

To answer the question, I've only tried heroin hcl (salt/power) a few times. It was pure and tested, definitely not "street dope." It was really nice, and I wish I had more but unfortunately that's not possible. Maybe it's for the best that I can't get anymore H at this point in my life. I'd definitely dive in head first given the opportunity.

 

[johanneschimpo]

Dude. You got a shitty batch.
You're making quite an assumption from one experience.
It sounds like you got jacked actually. Too bad.
I get bomb tar.

 

[Frank Zito]

I would like for people from EVERYWHERE to answer this. I was just stating the different places I have gotten/scored/done dope from. ALL INPUT IS WELCOME.

 

[Frank Zito]

Dude. You got a shitty batch.
You're making quite an assumption from one experience.
It sounds like you got jacked actually. Too bad.
I get bomb tar.

Have you ever done GOOD powder? I have talked to/KNOW several people who moved out West that HATE tar cause it don't measure up. I met a kid in treatment from ARIZONA who had been smoking/shooting tar for 2 years and I took him DETROIT with me once for a week. He couldn't leave the HOTEL for 4 days after a 1 1/2 bag shot. Said he WAY under estimated the power of powder. He also was up to a gram or two daily in 'Zona.

I WILL try tar again cause I'll be out West soon. I'll be bringin' a couple of jabs with me just in case tho'.

The point of this is to get peoples opinions who have a DECENT amount of EXPERIENCE with BOTH.

 

[johanneschimpo]

He couldn't leave the HOTEL for 4 days after a 1 1/2 bag shot. Said he WAY under estimated the power of powder.

I know what you mean. I love those single-dose 4-day long heroin highs. 8)

 

[phr]

Never tried tar. Wouldn't make a habit of iv'ing it. But, I would definitely try it. Just to get more dope experience, if anything...


The people that I've talked to that have tried both, all would choose powder hands down.

 

[johanneschimpo]

Anyway, enough sarcasm.
I live in California. I've encountered real powder a few times. Well I bought it several times for a month or two long period, but it was all from one guy, and presumably the same batch. Other than that, tar is rare here.
I liked the powder, and it was probably stronger on a mg per mg basis than the average tar around here, but much more expensive (of course) and in all honesty, I like the high from tar more. Then again, I've only had powder from one hookup, and to compare them would be unfair, kind of like saying tar sucks because I did some once and it was no good.

 

[Frank Zito]

I know what you mean. I love those single-dose 4-day long heroin highs. 8)

Never said HIGH...Just sick. If you never have over done it...I've gotten myself sick for SEVERAL consecutive days after overdoing it as I'm sure that many others can attest to...

 

[bulldog8b]

Judging all tar by one batch is like getting a BJ from a toothless hooker and saying sex sucks. I live in Socal and have shot dope for years. Some of the tar I have had was crap, some of it was great. I have also had powder from other places and it was the same, some was crap and some was great. I would bet that overall, the powder you guys get in the fly over states is slightly better because it is the shit that comes from NY and the NE, that is unless it gets cut several more times on the way there because I doubt anybody is smuggling dope into Idaho or wherever you are. So, ya, overall, NE powder may be a little better, but there is still alot of good tar that goes around the SW. Just because you got a shitty batch doesn't mean we all get shitty dope.

 

[Frank Zito]

Keep in mind that I'm also going by the opinions of SEVERAL people who have gotten to spend time with both for a decent amount of TIME. The dude I got off of also has spent years with powder before going out WEST and he said that powder reigns supreme, but that what he had would COMPARE at least, and I thought that the shit was ASS CHEEKS. I'm not insulting ANYONES D or anything, just asking for opinions.

I also know that I can't judge TAR on one go round either, so I won't. I'll be checking it out again soon. I am just looking for a little input is all.

 

[bulldog8b]

Keep in mind that I'm also going by the opinions of SEVERAL people who have gotten to spend time with both for a decent amount of TIME. The dude I got off of also has spent years with powder before going out WEST and he said that powder reigns supreme, but that what he had would COMPARE at least, and I thought that the shit was ASS CHEEKS. I'm not insulting ANYONES D or anything, just asking for opinions.

I also know that I can't judge TAR on one go round either, so I won't. I'll be checking it out again soon. I am just looking for a little input is all.

Ya, I know. I think that most people would agree that NE powder, which is what I assume you get in the mid west, is probably usually a little better than the tar we get in the SW. I am just saying that there is some crap powder and some great tar, but there is also great powder and crap tar. I would agree that overall, NE powder is probably better, but there is some good tar also.

 

[swybs]

I have tried tar and powder. Granted, I have done way too much powder from various states (mainly nj/nyc) and tar from cali (dago and la). Tar, ime, just didn't live up to my expectations. Note, I don't shoot, so maybe that was why but for me, tar was more of a novelty drug (I would consider it on par with something a 13 year old would enjoy, after being told it was opium).

Anyway, I wouldn't mind other's experiences re: tar vs powder with experience using both. Btw, I know that one source of the tar was excellent and that it was supposedly some of the best he "had in awhile." Don't get me wrong, some nj/nyc powder can be absolute fucking garbage.

But not now. Oh, no. Santa musta thought I've been good and nice all year cause I'm good and high right now.

Swybs

 

[Roger&Me]

MOST tar is complete shit compared to powder. I have done my fair share of both, but the BEST OF THE BEST tar, is EXTREMELY good, and like all strong dope, caution should be exercised when shooting it. I've DEF had tar that's as good as very good powder, it's all about your connects, bro!

 

[Chaos23]

I used to get really high quality heroin back when I was using/selling it. Mostly it would come in chunks which I would break apart in a coffee grinder, thus making it a fine powder... The dope was excellent, and very pure. definately stronger than the tar, but that was because we were getting it cut off of the kilo in large amounts, and it was totally uncut. (coming from columbia originally) All fun and games until you are a raging addict and get arrested after a multi-agency several month long investigation.

With that said, I ended up getting a connection for tar from some of the friendly illegal aliens in my city... This dope was actually awesome. It really did get the job done..

I suppose I just got lucky and had a great connect with the best tar available. Or maybe the tar you tried just sucked really bad.

Both can be VERY strong. Obviously...

Pure heroin is not tar, so it is a fact that the quality of uncut powdered heroin is higher. (uncut pure heroin is over 90 percent in many cases)

NONE of the dope you buy in bags on the street is pure heroin... It would cause too many deaths, and it wouldn't make the dealers as much money. Anyone getting quantities of pure heroin for retail sale is going to be cutting it.

Some tar is a lot better than some bags. some bags are a lot better than some tar.

It can go either way.

PS: I don't use heroin anymore because IMO it is a horrible destructive drug that I have seen kill many people I love, as well as managed to completely ruin me as a human being for 7 years.

 

[Roger&Me]

^I do the coffee grinder thing, too, I seriously thought I was the only person in the world that did that. I'm glad to know there's more of us.

 

[Chaos23]

^^ everyone I know that ever got lots of dope used one... you may loose a little in the process, but not much to make a difference in the end.

When you take the lid off that little cloud always comes out. i always tried to inhale that shit.

If someone was getting like a gram or something I wouldn't recommend it... some sticks to the blades and some on the side and lid of the grinder... but anything over a few grams and it is the most effective way to do it... just make sure not to leave it on too long...

 

[johnnyb420]

this arguement is pointless

i have had powder that is cut to shit and sucked ,in that case even mediocore tar was better


ii have also had really good powder that was better than any tar i have evere seen




on the other hand i have had tar straight from the block and it was ten times better than all the other tar i have had



it comes down to how close you can get to the main source



overall powder will be better than tar 90% of the time



its the same as judgeing how good your dope is by the size of the bags, it does not matter how much total product you get it matters how cut up it is



when it comes down to it i like tar over powder just a lttle different high


but it took a long time to get a contact that had tar this close to the source
regular streer tar sucks big time


with powder you can also get crap but i have copped superior product from the street


it all comes down to who you know