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BLACK TAR...Just as I SUSPECTED.

Roger&Me said:
^I do the coffee grinder thing, too, I seriously thought I was the only person in the world that did that. I'm glad to know there's more of us. :)
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Once you folks run it through a coffee grinder do you snort the powder I assume? Black tar dissolves in water pretty easily for injection so I am guessing you are snorting it. I would love to snort my black tar instead of smoke it and this sounds like a good way to do it.
 
They are talking about ROCKED up #4. It's common practice to use a blender or coffee grinder to break your shit down into a uniform powder. I suspect that tar in a blender wouldn't go over so well.
 
yeah. tar + blender = FAIL...

To answer the other question, I was shooting it. The only reason I was powdering it was for packaging and resale.
 
Weak, I knew it had to be too good to be true for black tar. While we're on the subject of snorting black tar, I've talked to friends before who said they mixed the tar with water and cooked it up like they were going to shoot. Instead of shooting they snorted the water and got nice and faded off of that.

I tried that once with about 1g of tar and it didn't do anything to me. Any possible mistakes I made? I've heard that from enough people that I hold it to be true. Oh, and the tar is decent purity. You catch a huge buzz off of smoking it so it's got to be relatively pure.
 
bulldog8b said:
So, ya, overall, NE powder may be a little better, but there is still alot of good tar that goes around the SW. Just because you got a shitty batch doesn't mean we all get shitty dope.
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Just fyi, tar makes up the vast majority of H for the entire SW and west coast, all the way up to Seattle. For whatever dumb reason though, you can drive 100 miles north up to Vancouver, Canada from Seattle and get great #4 white dope.
 
allover said:
Weak, I knew it had to be too good to be true for black tar. While we're on the subject of snorting black tar, I've talked to friends before who said they mixed the tar with water and cooked it up like they were going to shoot. Instead of shooting they snorted the water and got nice and faded off of that.

I tried that once with about 1g of tar and it didn't do anything to me. Any possible mistakes I made? I've heard that from enough people that I hold it to be true. Oh, and the tar is decent purity. You catch a huge buzz off of smoking it so it's got to be relatively pure.
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If you do that, you should lay on a bed or something and let your head hang off so the solution doesn't run down your throat, but rather stays in your sinuses where it should be. That mayhave been your problem. You can also cook it up like that and put it into a little nasal spray bottle and spray a little mist up there.
 
allover said:
Just fyi, tar makes up the vast majority of H for the entire SW and west coast, all the way up to Seattle. For whatever dumb reason though, you can drive 100 miles north up to Vancouver, Canada from Seattle and get great #4 white dope.
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Ya, what's your point? And the dope in Canada is coming into different ports and from different places, that's why you can get different dope across the border.
 
In the UK medical diamorphine comes as dry-amps in 10,20,50 & 100mg doses. I've only snorted a 50 once, but it was so f**king strong. My advice, go live in Europe where hypes can get these things.
 
as a rule of thumb powder is going to be better than black tar, as you found out first hand.

However, someone correct me if I'm wrong, Tar can be up to if not over 80% pure, which would blow most powder right out of the water. Good luck finding this uber tar however.
 
High purity or not, if I'm going to iv dope, I don't want tar.

I'll take 50% powder over 75%tar any day.


The consistency is just fucking nasty. It's a breeding ground for bacteria! (It's a fact that tar is associated with more infection than powder.)
 
phrozen said:
High purity or not, if I'm going to iv dope, I don't want tar.

I'll take 50% powder over 75%tar any day.


The consistency is just fucking nasty. It's a breeding ground for bacteria! (It's a fact that tar is associated with more infection than powder.)
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Oh hell yeah, When they had that thread that showed that Movie : "Black tar, The Dark end of the street" I think it was called, Everybody who was IV'ing that crap had their veins all Fucked up............ One guy was even shooting up in his NECK because he didnt have any good veins............ That Tar Really Really takes a toll on your veins......... In the beginning of the Documentary (The 1st Scene of the movie) it showed a Dealer with a Gram of the black Tar and the Dealer was saying ' This is Black tar heroin, It looks like shit, It smells like shit, It has a shit high, and This was Coming From THE DEALERS MOUTH......... lol
 
First, some Tar can be as high as 85% pure, and we all know powder can be adulterated down to nothing so the from does not make it or break it as far as purity and overall quality.

Tar can also be highly purified and/or converted into a decent light tan powder.

I have done all forms in America at this piont and the Tar got in Tampa was great, but the Tar in Dallas was total garbage. It just depends, just like with all forms.

The real thing to consider is the health consequences of any form, given that purity can be negated as a variable. Tar is alot more susceptible to contamination, and has caused tissue eating diseases as well as botulism. It also destroys veins rather quickly.

On this basis, powder will win every time.
 
rachamim said:
First, some Tar can be as high as 85% pure, and we all know powder can be adulterated down to nothing so the from does not make it or break it as far as purity and overall quality.

Tar can also be highly purified and/or converted into a decent light tan powder.

I have done all forms in America at this piont and the Tar got in Tampa was great, but the Tar in Dallas was total garbage. It just depends, just like with all forms.

The real thing to consider is the health consequences of any form, given that purity can be negated as a variable. Tar is alot more susceptible to contamination, and has caused tissue eating diseases as well as botulism. It also destroys veins rather quickly.

On this basis, powder will win every time.
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It seems like it (The part about bacteria and veins getting fucked up quick) They also cut it with some horrible shit, Like Roofing Tar, ETC..........
 
Im from the Philly area and have done H #4 (light brown powder) probably 200-300x and i have come across tar here maybe 10x...
I was like u and wanted to give t3 a try and see how it compared to my stamped bags (bart simpson, playboy bunny, timberland, hemans).....

Tar's quality was nothing compared to #4.... I had to do ALOT of tar to get high and it just wasnt worth it.....

With Philly being in the top 3 for best H in the country, i think i'll stick to my stamped bags and pass tar the next time i come across it....

Just my experience but i think this is the norm.... I feel bad for you bros who have nothing but tar to choose from....
 
You've come across tar in Philly?

I've been involved in various aspects of the Philly scene, and I know people that have been in it for over 30 years. None have ever seen/used/sold tar.


I'm not doubting out, I just find it hard to believe that you ran across tar in Philly.
 
Ive had tar a few times here and there, when its usually all powder. i had regular guys who moved a lot of dope and would sometimes get like an o of tar if there wasnt powder. it sucked, like every once in a blue moon my guy would have tar for a week. theres a ton of mexicans in baltimore, im sure there is a tar connec somewhere.

id take powder over tar anyday, but the tar ive had was pretty good ive thought. i think it gets called mexican mud around here, cause its not totally sticky and gooey. only had real "black" tar a few times, shit that was like tar putty. i just didnt like having to cook my shots. the high was good, but powder is cleaner.
 
I live in Ohio, I can get tar and powder without any problem. The weakest powder will blow the strongest tar out of the water. This is my opinion.
 
I live in Canada and have had tar once. What I had was decent. Not great but good as average stuff we get here. At least I think it was tar as it looked , strangely enough, like tar, or black hash but it was definitely dope.

Never saw it before or since though. Usually get white/tan/brown powder.
 
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