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Dissociatives Big & Dandy Ketamine Thread 4: I was filled with the Holey Spirit

I'm pretty annoyed that the scum got hold of ketamine... by that I mean the coke/phet dealers who think its OK to give someone something they did not ask for mixed in with their drugs, its simply immoral and unprofessional.

Adulterating things like K just doesn't make sense when you consider the market, K heads are really one of the better groups of people to be supplying, they dont tend to be violent or nasty (such as stim heads), it just seems like it would make the dealer more money in the long run to just keep supplying high quality product rather than crushing up whatever they have laying around into it, I kind of think of it as stealing someones experience as if 100mg is not actually K it takes away a potential K hole!
nasty nasty shit this drugs market eh!

The thing thats substituted for adulterating round here is selling 0.7-8g as a full one, I prefer it to be honest because then you know whats going into your snout!

Peace
 
thought i'd throw this here as I wrote it, and it seems like the place to put it
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dosed 1 medium-sized bump, estimated around 40mg.

T+0:15 notice solid body load, heavy front of face, droopy weight under eyes. slow but lucid thought-flow.

T+0:35 dosed a small line, estimated around 60mg.

T+0:50 feel similar effects (about as high on ketamine as i've felt) as when i did about twice as much of other k as i have now (this is new k to me, and i suspect it is much better than what I've done before). heavy body, very swimmy floaty thoughts. friendly and warm feeling. heavy body, lightness of thought.

T+1:25 dosed another small line, estimated 50-60mg. comes up fast, and the cumulative strength on top of what i've already dosed is apparent. closed eye visuals are present now, taking form primarily around retinal after images, but then revealing more detailed synaesthetic forms, all vibrating and pulsing. if i stay present with them these visuals become relatively immersive; i can see a light fluid orange web floating in black space, then morphing into soft undulating blue/green 3d-grid-work, the shapes and movement changing as i move my head in relation to light sources. some slight open eye distortions are present, shape in general is very imposing.

T+1:40 on the verge of drippy-body 4-meo-pcp territory; the edges of my body feel like soft energy that might be able to dissolve into whatever they press against. Music and sound are very immersive, i feel like i'm floating inside of the sounds which completely envelope me from all sides. this is a synaesthetically almost physical sensation of cradling.

T+2:30 very close to baseline. effects dissipated quietly and softly, no harsh drop of energy. very smooth transition. i'm sure i could sleep but it's not required, i'm cruising nicely into sobriety.

hugs to all
 
Does anyone have any advice in regards to being unable to recall k-hole experiences? My first couple trips to the hole (all IM'd) were simply magical, but now all I do is pass out and wake up with my mind completely blank. I know ketamine tolerance builds quickly, but I've only used it ~20 times (with a week minimum between trips and without significantly increasing the dosage). It's really disappointing, I love the afterglow it gives me for the days afterward but I don't feel like continuing to use k for that reason alone. People have suggested using stimulants but I tried adderall a couple times and that just gave me insomnia.

I've read that there have been studies where people with poor dream recall simply do not remember anything about a high dose ketamine experience, I don't remember a lot of my dreams with could explain why this happens.

thanks for any help :D
 
edzeppelin said:
ColtDan, Do you still take Valium with your dissociatives? I tried 10 mg diazepam with a threshold dose of MXE last weekend and the peaceful, contented feeling seemed to be noticeably magnified.
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Sometimes, feels very nice
 
thinking of trying this I.M myself because ive been told the stuff is a little weak not used mxe or ket in along time so give us a rough idea on the amount to take please

o well it now looks like its on its way :) sweet
 
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ketamine is addictive

I started off with intranasal ketamine, prescribed. I wanted to try ketamine for severe, recurrent depression. I quickly graduated to multiple IM daily doses. It accelerated over the course of two months. I only went through about 4 grams but I exercised very poor judgement in regards to poly drug abuse i took two lunestas, 6 beers, 80 mg IM, and a bowl of kief. I blacked out, threw up, and tried to get into my hot tub. Bad idea I couldn't. I was too uncoordinated. I really fear what would have happened if I had gotten in. Ketamine is a strange drug but it really is compelling.
 
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Agreed, I first came in to contact with Ketamine around 1992 but it was relatively rare on the party scene and didn't really get at all popular.

It wasn't until the later 90's that a wave of the stuff swept across the UK rave scene, it wasn't long before people were calling it techno smack, it was obvious people were using it as they were all laying on the floor holed on the stuff, that brought people looking to rob those incapable of knowing what was happening and in my view spelt the end for that era of youth culture.

The general view was that it was fairly benign and 'safe' but people soon started to run into problems with using lots of it all the time, aside from the consequences to someone's life using a drug like that day in day out, people started to suffer cramps and bladder issues.

It seems that the drip from snorting the stuff can damage you bladder badly in some cases requiring surgery.

In small and occasional use it seems a relatively 'safe' substance but habitual use and physical damage seem to be relatively common place IME.

That said I enjoy it once in a while in the safety of my home and it may have benefits for helping depression .
 
I was offered it for treatment resistant depression.
but I saw horror down the road.
the doc didn't know my full story.
still curious though.
 
Ketamine can be very addictive.
I've had my worst addictions to ketamine
This year alone I went through at least two ounces of the shit up my nose, that number might even be higher
 
Allein said:
It wasn't until the later 90's that a wave of the stuff swept across the UK rave scene, it wasn't long before people were calling it techno smack
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Not a bad definition of it lol.

I used to be addicted to opiates/benzos but quit over a year ago and kind of started to use dissociatives instead as I thought it would be alot easier to handle without the physical addiction part. Well, it worked for a month or two untill I started using every week for a couple of more months and then every other day. After that I started noticing I was feeling kind of "off" mentally so I now I have a break. It seems like addiction can creep up on you just as easily without the need for horrible withdrawals.
 
Toz said:
Not a bad definition of it lol.

I used to be addicted to opiates/benzos but quit over a year ago and kind of started to use dissociatives instead as I thought it would be alot easier to handle without the physical addiction part. Well, it worked for a month or two untill I started using every week for a couple of more months and then every other day. After that I started noticing I was feeling kind of "off" mentally so I now I have a break. It seems like addiction can creep up on you just as easily without the need for horrible withdrawals.
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I know of many people that got into daily use at increasing amounts, IME it has no place in the party / rave scene but I do enjoy the odd excursion at home.

It's an odd one in that where I was people had no expectations of addiction issues and the bladder issues had never been seen as the stuff is normally used IM.

I don't find it that compelling at all one or 2 small doses and I'm done but for some it seems very compelling and damaging although it seems to have lost some populairy now, many prefer MXE.
 
I had periods of Ketamine use where I used more than I was comfortable with. It was a very convenient drug to use, only lasting about an hour, so I would use it to occupy boredom. Watching individuals around me who were falling deeper into compulsive use and suffering K-Pains made me rethink my own use and ultimately I decided against having a supply of it in my possession. The availability of the drug at the time made it even more enticing, but ultimately a large bust in Canada occurred causing the price to skyrocket, which further deterred my use.
I will still use it a couple times a year, or every other year, when I desire that warm place inside of the outer reaches of my mind. I always use it on my own, in darkness, with some psychedelic trance such as Shpongle playing in order to achieve complete dissociation. It's definitely a valuable compound and should be treated with great respect. Being zonked all day on the stuff did not suit me as it did others, as it seems some people are capable of being slightly productive while on it, I assume due to massive tolerance.
 
im fine to go without it, but if i have a bag of it i WILL snort some as soon as the time is freed up to do so (usually before bed) and if I get it in my mind that i'm gonna go buy a bag then i fiend for it like nothing else til i get it. wonderful stuff though
 
damn skippy, its addictive!

tolerance builds oh so quickly...only a few good portals to enjoy before you have to take more than what its worth w/o taking a few week break
 
I've merged your post in with the ketamine addiction thread. Please check out the PD index linked in my signature or use the search function in future, you can get a lot more out of us in this way :)
 
well my first experience with this quirky chem was back in 01-02, this first time i had only tried a point 0.1/g split into 2 lines one for each nostril, the effects to follow were very interesting and i quite liked how it throw my perception of the world around me completely off(as in looking st8 ahead on level ground looked as if i was going down a mountain) this was all fun and good...
since that time i have only had the stuff 2-3times ..the last being from a friend who owed me some cash threw me a gram of this and a 1/2g of meth...this time around tho i have uped my game from sniffer to injector,,,i proceed to inject the k..now at this point only a week prior my scale broke..so i was left to eye ball...
im guessing it had to be 100mg or so..and i IV this dose pull out my rig and with it still in hand i am transported into the hole, into darkness...
Well i had a hell of a trip i guess u would say..now during this entire 1/2hour i was unable to see i remember all black..but i was talking to my friend who ws with me(And who by this time was completely freaking as he had never witnessed anyone on k let allone in the hole) but i remebr asking him if he could see the pink zebras too..now this i kinda a hazy blury memory..but for what i gather i was unble to see the entier time yet my subconscious was seeing alot of things? as matt told me afterwords that i was describing all kinds of weird things..

I will deff run sum more experiments in the future..when i have a working scale and such..defiantly will lower the dose next time tho lol
 
Sweet Jones said:
im fine to go without it, but if i have a bag of it i WILL snort some as soon as the time is freed up to do so (usually before bed) and if I get it in my mind that i'm gonna go buy a bag then i fiend for it like nothing else til i get it. wonderful stuff though
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i'm exactly the same.
 
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I really enjoyed this CD at home, having been on low dose pharmayahuasca on a hot sunny afternoon in the park, it was early evening and I vaped a breakthrough dose of DMT, enabling my first truly amazing experience of CEVs. My more recent studies on DMT have involved bird noises in gardens and relative silence in my bed but I really love this album and recommend it to users of psychedelics :)
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I had the most blissful ketamine experience today, I had gotten off from working the night shift and wanted to take a psychedelic but didn't really have the energy...I decided instead, to research a sample of some mt-45, a novel opioid/piperazine kind of research chemical. I weighed 45mg of mt45, capped it and swallowed on empty stomach and normal habitual cannabis consumption. I am completely naive of opioid tolerance.

T:0030 I notice myself scratching my head and realize I am comfortable in my fav leather chair.
T:0130 seems equivalent to taking 10mg hydrocodone, with maybe some tramadol like agonist/antagonist feelings
T:0200 I get bored with the opiate lazies and realize I'm tired from working the night shift, but not really sleepy...I remember I have some racemic ketamine hcl and I shovel myself up 75mg for an IM injection...lower than my normal khole dose because I am alone, and I expect it to be potentiated by the mt 45.
T:0230 I clean my house and light candles before I administer ketamine. I pull up the "what music would you all recommend for different PDs" thread and sync up the bluetooth headphones.
T:0245 Bliss. Hues of pink and orange. This minimalist music has a way of easing the ketamine experience, taking away any kind of anxiety or fear. My mind is completely free to wander. I feel like I am floating in the clouds. I think I may have found my sweet spot for dosage. Right on the edge of a K-Hole. I can close my eyes and be traveling at the speed of light, have an idea, and then open my eyes back up to scribble down notes. I see the Law of Karma as it plays out at the moment of death, how a lifetime of Karma will flash before your eyes at the moment of death, determining your fate of reincarnation. I am the sleek blue paint on a supersonic fighterjet (subconscious imagery from playing Battlefield 4 that day Im sure). Most of all I am comfortable. Nausea comes as usual if I move around too much on ketamine.
T:0330 I seamlessly doze off to sleep, and have the most blissful dreams although I don't remember them.

Remarks: +++ I nailed the dosages for both compounds. I was too tired for a proper psychedelic, so I chose a lazy psychedelic instead and it was perfect. Don't think im gonna be repeating this frequently because of past problems with opiate habituation, but I must say this was one of the best experiences ive had. Unique...comfortable after a long night of work. IM is really the only way to go for ketamine, I will try to find this range, right before the K-Hoe again where I can be lucid and transcendental in the same sitting. Amazing
 
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Ketamine is one strange drug. Yesterday I felt nauseous and dysphoric on it. I felt anesthetized and could barely function. My thoughts were circling around all the negative things in my life.

Today I've snorted a few 30-40 mg lines and I've taken ~300 mg Lyrica and it's just beautiful. Full of energy, happy, uplifting, euphoric. Life feels absolutely wonderful.

While benzos seem to diminish the K experience, pregabalin does not. It almost gives the experience a boost. WOW!
 
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