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better to not find out? (heroin)

wespwnzu

wespwnzu

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i have done it many times through insufflation but i feel as though when i IV it, im crossing a line that will make it much more difficult to quit in the long run. Every friend i know who has shot it is completely different afterwards than those who haven't. i feel like it definitely changes people, but i wanted a second opinion. Do you feel like it is worth the rush? looking back on your life, do you regret ever putting a needle in your arm? let me learn from your experience


Edit: Do not incriminate yourself by mentioning future illegal activities. -phrozen
 
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I can only answer you truthfully and from my own experience.

Do I regret sticking the needle in my arm? Yes.
If I could go back and just stick to sniffing dope, would I? Yes.
Do I feel like it is worth the rush? (Currently, I'm already an IV user) Yes, without a doubt.

My answers are my answers, and I know other users here on BL might give you their own answer, albeit different than mine, also true in their own light. People are different. Some have different personalities, some more addictive than others. I have a very addictive personality, and I'm a fiend for the needle, especially when it comes to the rush from IV heroin. Knowing what the rush is like now, from shooting heroin, I can never go back to intranasal use. I've tried, and it just doesn't do it for me. So if I'm doing herion now, It must be intravenously. It definitely changed my using patterns, and my life directly, the moment I started injecting my junk, rather than snorting it. This is just my experience, and my opinion. But I would recommend sticking to sniffing your dope, if you have not done it intravenously yet. If you have a non-addictive personality, than I bet you can get away with using IV and not having to mainline your dope everytime, or fiend for the needle. But if you're anything like me, and you're an addict by nature, I would not suggest using drugs intravenously of any sort, especially heroin.

Good luck in all your ventures with dope, my friend.
 
If you do heroin, only way to do it is to shoot it.

That said, doesn't really matter. If you enjoi heroin, you should definitely shoot it.

Just don't get strung out man. Easier said than done, but it really ruins alot of people's lives. On the other hand, seeing so many people who did heroin with me really motivated me to go to college and do good and be an upstanding citizen in life and become active with politics. I mean, I saw so many junkies ruin their lives and go to jail over drugs. It really moved me inside, and was a big factor in making me so determined to never be like that, and really make something of myself.

I mean, I remember the first time I went to baltimore to get heroin. I had got it locally once, where it came around once and only once. I decided to contact someone from Bluelight and within 2 hours I was going to meet someone for the first time and buy some dope. It all worked out, but I just remember I had just turned 16 and was shooting in the guy's house. He had another friend over who had been snorting it for years, and said he was never gonna shoot it.

Then he sees me, this 16 year old little kid, and he says fuck that and decides to shoot up. It's been particularly interesting for me to chronicle how my life has gone, compared to his. Although I had shot up heroin ~20 times since buying a gram locally 2 months ago, it was my first time really establishing a connection to the heroin world, and it was his first time shooting up. Since then, he's lost his $120,000/yr job, lost his Audi and his other cars, his beautiful down-town apartment in Baltimore, and been to rehab more times than you could count and now lives with his parents. I, on the other hand, have never been to rehab or been strung out, and doing great in college. It kinda blows my mind how me and him have gone so differently in our lives.

So just be careful. Do what you do, there's no 'invisible line' or anything like that at all. But some people can't handle doing heroin and are extremely irresponsible. Just be careful, I'm not saying don't do it, but make sure you keep your priorities straight, as is the case if you didn't use too.

However, let me point this out: Nothing good can come from doing anything illegal. If you are busted, you are ruined. Take note that people who are 'straight-edge' have just as happy and fulfilling lives, if not more so. To anyone who's done drugs, you are stupid if you think it was better that you did drugs. I'm not saying it's worse, but everyone has a number.
 
I woul dmaybe try smoking from a lightbulb, instead of snorting it, its much better and you get a bit of a rush, i've never IV'd (i'm too worried about becoming a full blown addict)so cant compare but if you can keep it under control why not.
 
If you do heroin, only way to do it is to shoot it.

That said, doesn't really matter. If you enjoi heroin, you should definitely shoot it.
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Ummm, no. You could do it perfectly well by just snorting.

If you really enjoy heroin, you should probably not shoot it. :|


Let's not encourage people to shoot drugs.


"Is it worth it?"
Depends on who you ask. If you've been addicted to an opiate before, I'd think real long and hard before picking up a heroin filled syringe.
 
yeah, if you DONT HAVE to shoot DONT please. i have seen so many people just go down that downward spiral after they use i.v H. since this is a harm reduction site, i recommend snorting/smoking(if you can) if your going to do H.
I've i.v'd tar say, bout 15 times in my days but so rarely i didnt get addicted or any of that. if i were to do heroin now, which i dont do often, i always like melting the tar like your going to shoot them snort the liquid its called "muddy water" down here in dallas and its the only way to do tar unless you shoot it up. also, the whole "cheese" epidemic started here. to set the story straight "cheese" is black tar heroin dissolved into water on a plate, then pour crushed tylenol p.m caplets into the liquid, get a spoon, mix it around, let it dry..i know most people on bluelight laugh at the thought of cheese, but i've used cheese more than any other method and if you use a low amount of powder, the resulting powder can be potent! also, you can use just about any pill with diph. as long as it doesnt have any other crap in it.
sorry for the long post, kinda hungover from benzos and just took more.
enjoy, but be careful and stay away from that needle, if your using powder dope just snort it up, i know i would! i would kill for powder smack, all ive seen and done is black tar here in dallas its expensive about $50 4 a half gram and a $100 for a gram. and its only average quality but not bad
just my 2 cents (or a little bit more)
peace stay safe
drew
 
^true dat.

i sniffed H a few times but my bag is more pharmaceuticals..there easier to get where i'm from and its guaranteed that you know whats in em.
the only one who can answer your questions is you, man. if you've seen people around you change after getting into shooting, then ask yourself if your willing to change too if you start shooting.
it's def. a step up. not everyone progresses to that level and most of those who do dont turn out well in the long run. if you can still get high from snorting shit or just eating pills stay there and be glad.
deep down you know the answer. be honest with yourself.
 
is it better? fuck yes.

can you enjoy heroin the same way again w/o shooting it? yes, but its never QUITE as good...

would i recommend anyone pick up a needle? god no.
 
Might as well just do some codeine or percocets if you aren't going to shoot dope then. It would be like buying an automatic transmission mazerati.
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Might as well just do some codeine or percocets if you aren't going to shoot dope then. It would be like buying an automatic transmission mazerati.
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dope is much cheaper and stronger than any pharm i can get. the dope we get, a $15 pack through the nose would be more fun than doing an oc 80. I have IV''ed morphine before, it was a pill and i dont really regret it because i only did it once, and i can still enjoy oral morphine. the thing about heroin is, it isn't available in my college town. we've looked... everywhere. there just isnt enough demand for it.. so even if i did want it, it would be impossible to be hooked, but for the mean time im already hooked on oc's. I really want to experience the rush, just like i did with the morphine.. but i really dont want to throw away my 3.0 gpa and my badass life just to chase the needle. my friends are bringing up a few g's for the weekend and i thought about trying it, but I really feel like it could change the direction of my life if I picked up a habit. judging by the responses in this thread, it seems like most people are advising me not to. and don't say doing heroin is worthless unless you shoot it, because it really isn't. it is still very potent. I have never been able to smoke it but i am definitely willing to give it a try. I plugged it once and it was worthless, i must have messed up because i didn't even get a rush, just a little buzzed. how does smoking it compare to shooting it?
 
^bs.

"its impossible to get hooked..." famous last words.

youre already hooked on OC? then you should know youre playing with fire and this whole thread is redundant.

smoking it would be method #2 for me. but it is still nowhere near shooting it. back when i was hooked, id start off with a shot for the rush, then smoke some to get higher, then shoot again, and repeat.

the more addicted i got, the less i smoked due to the amount of product wasted, and that what it eventually all comes down to.
 
i dont know if i'd say im hooked on oc, but i definitely do it frequently.. about 40mg a day or less
 
the question is: can you stop without getting sick?

if yes then i HIGHLY advise you do so. if not then have fun.

...i learned the hard way too, except i immediately picked up intravenous heroin...
 
wespwnzu said:
i dont know if i'd say im hooked on oc, but i definitely do it frequently.. about 40mg a day or less
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you are hooked bro, if you cant admit it to yourself then ill tell you. Try stopping. You'll see. 40mg isn't too bad but its still an addiction. Im not trying to be an ass, jus' trying to look out for a fellow bluelighter. Ive seen too many friends choose the wrong road. Getting high is about living in the moment, there isn't much of a promising future in it. please be careful. -Spaz-
 
Spaazkaz said:
you are hooked bro, if you cant admit it to yourself then ill tell you. Try stopping. You'll see. 40mg isn't too bad but its still an addiction. Im not trying to be an ass, jus' trying to look out for a fellow bluelighter. Ive seen too many friends choose the wrong road. Getting high is about living in the moment, there isn't much of a promising future in it. please be careful. -Spaz-
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doing 40mg a day for about 10 days out of 2 weeks is not really hooked dude.. i just have alot of money to waste right now. you cant call a 2 week habit "hooked"; more like "binge". its weird how someone i dont even know can accuse me of having an addiction and it still makes me mad.
 
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2 weeks is actually right around the dividing line.

stop while youre ahead, ive always found 2+weeks of daily use of ANYTHING results in an addiction.
 
the difference is, is that im usually thinking more about why i shouldn't be doing dope than how im going to get my next fix... im going to slowly taper off the next week or so and try to leave it be for a while
 
if you need to taper than your hooked. If you get withdrawls when you stop your hooked.

If you are using an opioid every day you are hooked.

Okay, if before these 2 weeks you never did an opiate/oid than maybe your still in the clear, but if before that you used on a semi regular, although not daily basis...your probably hooked, If your thinking about why you shouldnt be doing something as you do it....bad sign. Denial is a beautiful thing.

the good news is your still very early in and if you can face the facts and get out now..... than you can consider yourself ahead. Sorry for bluntness
 
ok im hooked then...
thanks for the rehab therapy but this does not answer my question at all
 
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