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Best ROA for Methoxetamine?

Thanks for the IV info, Aman. Will still be having meself a lil dig or two to see what I make of it but the whoomp (I'd tend to call it more shokka-wokka-shokka-lokka-BOOM!!! myself but that would be playing semantiks) is kinda the point of shooting ket. Will see...
 
^^^ Of course :) And admittedly, I didn't go above 20 mg i.v. I was curiously titrating up and it didn't feel all that interesting. Might change at higher doses, let us know! Intramuscular is my preferred ROA for ketamine, but I do enjoy the pure hedonistic bent of an i.v. ket shot every now and then. Just didn't seem to work that way with methoxetamine.

Cheers
 
IV ket hit me fast and i would advise you to get the needle out fast efore you pass out with the needle still in you
 
Yep, sublingual makes it less subject to the metabolism of the liver and accidental excretion.
 
Sublingual works best for me as I don't do plugging or needles. It's definitely better than sniffing. Just drop the powder under your tongue and keep it there for a few mins, you'll go numb.
 
How do you guys have the balls in inject ANY of these RCs? Arent you afraid that there COULD POSSIBLY be impurities, or even pathogens, that would easily severely fuck you up? I mean the manufacture and downstream handling of these things is NOT subject to ANY regulation or controls of any kind whatsoever. And you are injecting it straight into your bloodstream (yea I know, IM, but that's close enough I am sure). All it takes is one bad batch to contain enough trace of a solvent to rot a weak spot in some major vessel in your heart or brain, and next time you sneeze KABLOOEY. Or, um, something or other really nasty. I will EAT all sorts of stuff... much more forgivng... but I would NEVER DARE injecting anthing that was not certified USP USDA FDA GRADE A PHARMA, designed and ph-balanced for injection, etc etc. Oh well, guess, I'm just a pussy.

Do those who use injection have a history of narcotics use, in which the craving for a potent fix is so powerful as to overwhelm all sense and sensibility and override such natural caution, and after a while you just get used to doing that, which then leads to becoming cavalier about injecting just about anything?
 
DwayneHoover said:
How do you guys have the balls in inject ANY of these RCs? Arent you afraid that there COULD POSSIBLY be impurities, or even pathogens, that would easily severely fuck you up? I mean the manufacture and downstream handling of these things is NOT subject to ANY regulation or controls of any kind whatsoever. And you are injecting it straight into your bloodstream (yea I know, IM, but that's close enough I am sure). All it takes is one bad batch to contain enough trace of a solvent to rot a weak spot in some major vessel in your heart or brain, and next time you sneeze KABLOOEY. Or, um, something or other really nasty. I will EAT all sorts of stuff... much more forgivng... but I would NEVER DARE injecting anthing that was not certified USP USDA FDA GRADE A PHARMA, designed and ph-balanced for injection, etc etc. Oh well, guess, I'm just a pussy.

Do those who use injection have a history of narcotics use, in which the craving for a potent fix is so powerful as to overwhelm all sense and sensibility and override such natural caution, and after a while you just get used to doing that, which then leads to becoming cavalier about injecting just about anything?
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Well, I can't speak for everyone else, but I do have a decent understanding of chemistry, biology, and toxicology, and know that it doesn't quite work that way. The amounts of unreacted precursors, unintended intermediates, or otherwise contaminants that could be present in an injected sample are way too small to be of significance. Look up the LD50 of various substances ....very few things on the planet are toxic in the milligram range. And those things will not generally be found as by products of drugs that I am injecting. And really, it seems you have a stigma against injecting. All ROAs end up with the substance in the same place. I don't have an injection fetish....it is just that somethings are better that way, and some are not. I try to approach it objectively.
 
Hehe. I'm just an ol' junky with a needle fetish so can't claim to be so certain in my knowledge as Aman. However many years of experience mean I "know" that it's pretty hard to do yourself much damage with IV drugs - street drugs are cut with fuck knows what and often spend at least part of their lives hidden in people's bottoms and are injected regularly by millions with no problems. I feel safer injecting RCs if anything. IM is slightly different as there is it's far easier to get a nasty infection than shooting IV. I've only relatively recently (last year or so) started to experiment with IM injection of dissociatives and it still makes me kinda nervous compared with IV use, to be honest.
 
Yeah, that is one thing I forgot to mention, the greater danger associated with I.M. use over I.V. Theoretically one wants to micron filter such things, especially going into the muscles as any particulate has nowhere to go and can just sit there and fester, and any bacterial contamination has a much greater chance of taking hold. I must admit laziness in regards to always micron filtering however. . I've never had a problem (and I've done some questionable things in my years of injecting some silly things!) but I've seen some nasty infections. Most of these involved non-soluble contaminants, which luckily aren't an issue in most RCs and such.

Dwayne - I'm gonna say that although some substances have great benefit to being used by this ROA, there are only a handful that provide experiences that you can't get with other ROAs. So, you aren't really missing out on a whole lot (except for I.M ketamine, DPT,and a few other things). Some psychedelics I like to muscle occasionally just because of the shortened come-up (beneficial if the substance has a nasty climb), and the ease of knowing exactly how much you are absorbing (to a point). Some things are woefully ineffective by other ROAs (the NBOMe's and DPT come to mind....) but methoxetamine still works great sublingually, as well as rectally. It is just nicer by I.M injection ;)
 
now I don't use needles period, and I started out using this substance intranasally, definitely potent. next I tried sublingually, even more effects and quicker onset, duration is the same.
last night I tried plugging....ohhh boy that was intense. took about 5-10 minutes and I was trippin balls lol, I had even used less than I use for sublingual administration.
decision: plugging is much more effective than SA or NA. I actually made myself shit after like 15 minutes because I was still feeling myself come up and was getting a little freaked out, the effects didn't seem to last quite as long, but just about.
 
When plugging do you put it in a gel cap and insert? Do you need more for plugging than snorting or sublingual?

I've only tried snorting, if i want a quick onset and high peak what is the best method? I do not do needles.
 
IM first and foremost, it's bloody great.
Plugged second
Oral
Snorted

With micron filtering, I don't worry about injecting things into my muscles, not that I have every time, I should be better. I've just really fell in love with IM ever since I tried it, and feel no need to advance to IV. I also agree with Shambles, people shoot fucking heroin into their veins, that shits cut with everything and can live full lives.
 
my vote: sublingual

snorting, as mentioned by others on here, produces less effects, and it may only be a route towards eventual digestion after the nasal drip. eating probably works just as well.

some day i'll plug it.

and also, for the record, anything less than 50mg is shit and dysphoric, and i can't believe people actually fuck with this chemical at doses of 20mg and below. try 120mg and start getting your money's worth
 
When plugging, do you dissolve it in water and inject it?
 
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Bone14 said:
When plugging, do you dissolve it in water and inject it?
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I've done a few things that way (but not MXE) and it always worked fine. I'd imagine a gel cap could be a bit hit and miss, weather it dissolves or not. I mean it's probably not that wet up there.

And make sure your bowel is relatively clear, if you need a crap do that first, obviously.

I was going to say about people injecting street heroin and coke too, just because many get away with it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
 
skillet said:
I've done a few things that way (but not MXE) and it always worked fine. I'd imagine a gel cap could be a bit hit and miss, weather it dissolves or not. I mean it's probably not that wet up there.

And make sure your bowel is relatively clear, if you need a crap do that first, obviously.

I was going to say about people injecting street heroin and coke too, just because many get away with it doesn't mean it's a good idea.
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Alright, thx. I got 60mg left and want to try to go to the m-hole so i need the most effective route.
 
Does somebody know the stuff potenty anal Vs nasal? I tried 10mg + 20mg two hours later nasal, wasn't really euphoric but I enjoyed the light experience. I wasn't really dissociate physically but mental effects allowed me to speak with my girlfriend in a really therapeutic way without beeing incoherent. It wasn't espected but was great.

Will try 20mg anal next time? Don't really know, I'm not a dissociative expert yet and want increase the dose slowly.
 
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