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Best ROA for Methoxetamine?
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pharmakos
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i love oral dosing. hits just as hard as sublingual, and i like the gradual come up.
PoppyLlama
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TO BE HONEST
the "best" way to ingest pure methoxetamine is different for each person, because it is decided on what feeling you want to get out of it.
Snorting: the come up is very long, from like T+0:30-T+1:30 for it to become noticeable, then the peak lasts from T+2-T+4 or 5 hours then the come down just gently fades away until T+8-10 hours after your dose.. The trip is different it is less intense and more mellow; there is, until you get to 100+ mg doses, more of a feeling of awareness and knowledge of whats going on around you than there is with plugging. At higher doses it is intense, somewhat of a mindfuck, and strong body feeling of warmth and comfort, but some trembling/shakiness and at really high doses an uneasy sense. However, low and lighter moderate doses are very good for social interaction/partying and being active socially which is cool for the somewhat shy people like myself.
Plugging: The come up is shorter, taking from T+0:01-T+0:45, and the peak lasts from T+0:45-T+4, then the feelings very slowly fade from hours T+4-T+8 or 10. The trip is much more intense, more of a mindfuck and the mind almost feels drunk, as in the drunk visuals where everything jumps around instead of being fluid, and things that I saw didn't really register as what they were, it was a more intense dissociation. There was also a very strong feeling of power at the third eye chakra, it felt as though the entire multiverse was converging on my forehead right above the middle of my eyebrows. I had an intense out of body experience, my body felt as though it was flying, tumbling, spinning, flipping, going every which direction while speeding throughout the cosmos at the speed of light. It was almost too intense to act normal and drive or compose yourself well in a group.
the "best" way to ingest pure methoxetamine is different for each person, because it is decided on what feeling you want to get out of it.
Snorting: the come up is very long, from like T+0:30-T+1:30 for it to become noticeable, then the peak lasts from T+2-T+4 or 5 hours then the come down just gently fades away until T+8-10 hours after your dose.. The trip is different it is less intense and more mellow; there is, until you get to 100+ mg doses, more of a feeling of awareness and knowledge of whats going on around you than there is with plugging. At higher doses it is intense, somewhat of a mindfuck, and strong body feeling of warmth and comfort, but some trembling/shakiness and at really high doses an uneasy sense. However, low and lighter moderate doses are very good for social interaction/partying and being active socially which is cool for the somewhat shy people like myself.
Plugging: The come up is shorter, taking from T+0:01-T+0:45, and the peak lasts from T+0:45-T+4, then the feelings very slowly fade from hours T+4-T+8 or 10. The trip is much more intense, more of a mindfuck and the mind almost feels drunk, as in the drunk visuals where everything jumps around instead of being fluid, and things that I saw didn't really register as what they were, it was a more intense dissociation. There was also a very strong feeling of power at the third eye chakra, it felt as though the entire multiverse was converging on my forehead right above the middle of my eyebrows. I had an intense out of body experience, my body felt as though it was flying, tumbling, spinning, flipping, going every which direction while speeding throughout the cosmos at the speed of light. It was almost too intense to act normal and drive or compose yourself well in a group.
foolsgold
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iv found sniffing awaste of time really plugging didnt work at all but under the tung for acouple minutes and its take off
homeydontplaythat
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it has been noted on erowid that sublingual seems to be more efficient than intranasal but i think they are getting that info from bluelight, haha......so really this one is so new that there is not really a dosing standard yet.
i have sniffed it and IVed it. i hated it when i IVed it. it made me feel so fucking weird. nothing pleasant at all. totally dif than ket. a little key bump up my nose would make me feel very very nice though. i have NO idea how that works out but yeah, thats what i found.
im going to try sublingual next time. i would like it to last longer, so i guess it makes sense to try it this way. i also do not want to redose every 1hr. that is one thing i didnt like. like just when my mind was clear enough to start actually doing stuff i would find myself doing more.
a slow, continued release would be preferable. hmm, maybe i can swallow it. the stuff i get has been lab tested at 99% pure and is cheap as shit so wtf.
i have sniffed it and IVed it. i hated it when i IVed it. it made me feel so fucking weird. nothing pleasant at all. totally dif than ket. a little key bump up my nose would make me feel very very nice though. i have NO idea how that works out but yeah, thats what i found.
im going to try sublingual next time. i would like it to last longer, so i guess it makes sense to try it this way. i also do not want to redose every 1hr. that is one thing i didnt like. like just when my mind was clear enough to start actually doing stuff i would find myself doing more.
a slow, continued release would be preferable. hmm, maybe i can swallow it. the stuff i get has been lab tested at 99% pure and is cheap as shit so wtf.
e1evene1even
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Oral is the ROA I generally use. Nasal is inefficient, and sublingual doesn't seem any more potent than oral but tastes much worse.
What method did you use when you plugged?
I had to sign up to respond to this comment. The problem with IM injecting powder from an RC lab is not in the toxicity of the chemical, but in the possible bacterial or viral contamination of breaking the skin with material which was prepared in potentially unsanitary conditions. The risk of an abscess and dangerous infection from an underground lab's product are the primary concerns. How are you injecting the MXE? Do you mix it with bacteriostatic water or just heat it until it melts?
Limpet_Chicken
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Quite water soluable, although infuriatingly, I've built up such a damn tolerance to the stuff, thanks to having first started using it for opioid tolerance resetting, then as a tapering drug. Its opioid effects seem strong enough to taper me off dihydrocodeine, given that it can hold me as it is, built up such a tolerance that I can't get enough to dissolve in a 2ml barrel to be able to suck up a solution without clogging the needle with undissolved particles of MXE, if hot (warm hot, not 'oww bugger, thats scalding' hot if dripped onto the wrist.
At least, I think thats what might be responsible for my not holing. Never injected ket before, only had it a couple of times, nasally, dosage uncertain (insufflated K pills) but I suspect that it may be a much stronger opioid than ketamine is. It gives a very pronounced opioid rush when IVed, not strong enough to not on as an opiate, at least, not in a tolerant user (I was pretty tolerant to a pain script to DHC long before methoxetamine ever became available) but it gives a very euphoric rush, that is DEFINATELY of the IV opioid kind. I know it when I see it, and that, is it. So I suspect its possible to reach a point via IV where the opioid effects are causing me to black out, similar to the way certain fentanyls are used as general anaesthetics at the dosages it would take a MXE user tolerant to the dissociative effects (very tolerant, I've been using it for quite some time to lower tolerance to opioids and decided to use it recently to taper off the things, I can't be doing to being a slave to my pain meds, not sure how I can continue walking much without them, but one way or the other I have to try at least to be able to use them only when the knee pain is at its most intolerable, rather than be forced to take them or withdraw) to be able to hole.
Damn down to my last few rigs, fucking shite ones at that. Awful quality needles on the blasted things and they are not detatchable either. Bloody hate needles as it is, although I haven't got a panic reaction to having an injection anymore, thats for sure
I don't usually have a reason to inject anything, but it always used to freak me the hell out having to have one done. Can't remove the needle for a good quality one either, as these were meant for vaccinations, just something I happen to have a couple of around. Frightfully blunt edges to the needle tip. Uggh, I managed to hurt my arm last night doing an IV with one of the cursed things, after not realising it at the time, but slipping and bending the very tip of the point on the spoon an injection was being prepared in.
At least, I think thats what might be responsible for my not holing. Never injected ket before, only had it a couple of times, nasally, dosage uncertain (insufflated K pills) but I suspect that it may be a much stronger opioid than ketamine is. It gives a very pronounced opioid rush when IVed, not strong enough to not on as an opiate, at least, not in a tolerant user (I was pretty tolerant to a pain script to DHC long before methoxetamine ever became available) but it gives a very euphoric rush, that is DEFINATELY of the IV opioid kind. I know it when I see it, and that, is it. So I suspect its possible to reach a point via IV where the opioid effects are causing me to black out, similar to the way certain fentanyls are used as general anaesthetics at the dosages it would take a MXE user tolerant to the dissociative effects (very tolerant, I've been using it for quite some time to lower tolerance to opioids and decided to use it recently to taper off the things, I can't be doing to being a slave to my pain meds, not sure how I can continue walking much without them, but one way or the other I have to try at least to be able to use them only when the knee pain is at its most intolerable, rather than be forced to take them or withdraw) to be able to hole.
Damn down to my last few rigs, fucking shite ones at that. Awful quality needles on the blasted things and they are not detatchable either. Bloody hate needles as it is, although I haven't got a panic reaction to having an injection anymore, thats for sure
I don't usually have a reason to inject anything, but it always used to freak me the hell out having to have one done. Can't remove the needle for a good quality one either, as these were meant for vaccinations, just something I happen to have a couple of around. Frightfully blunt edges to the needle tip. Uggh, I managed to hurt my arm last night doing an IV with one of the cursed things, after not realising it at the time, but slipping and bending the very tip of the point on the spoon an injection was being prepared in.
TheUncreated
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I've tried MXE orally, nasally, sublingually, and rectally. My preferred methods are rectal and sublingual.
Regarding the solubility, what is the maximum capacity you all have been able to achieve when plugging with water in an oral syringe?
Regarding the solubility, what is the maximum capacity you all have been able to achieve when plugging with water in an oral syringe?
LogicSoDeveloped
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I am lazy and simple and just insufflate it though I have friends that have issues with insufflation-it messes up their respective noses-so they just take it orally.
IM is my favorite ROA. I haven't tried plugging but 45 mg IM'd is very powerful, with a good batch when my tolerance is on the low side it puts me right outside the M-hole with the first dose, with weak batches and when my tolerance is high it's still a pretty strong high. The comeup is very fast and I can estimate where exactly a dose will put me with great accuracy. Putting on the perfect song for entering an M hole right before hitting it is godly.
Transcendence
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I've tried insufflated, sublingual, and rectal. My preferred ROA is definitely sublingual. It feels much cleaner and more cerebral than snorting. Railing the stuff gives me more of a cozy body high. I'm usually not a big fan of railing chems but MXE is very easy on the nose. Rectal is sorta in between, probably closer to sublingual administration. It's nice but inconvenient obviously, so I usually dose sublingually and pad it with bumps.
I've been able to dissolve 60mg in 1cc of warm water easily. I haven't tried going above that.
I've been able to dissolve 60mg in 1cc of warm water easily. I haven't tried going above that.
bluedolphin
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Have only tried insufflating, oral, sublingual, and plugged a few times.
Plugging it is strong but gives a nitrous-like high and lacks many of the effects I enjoy.
Oral is good, seems to give more of a body high. More mellow and longer lasting.
Sublingual is pretty similar to oral, I guess a bit stronger.
Insufflating is the best way to take it, IMO. Best head high, best amount of stimulation and focus. This is the way I take it 95% of the time.
Plugging it is strong but gives a nitrous-like high and lacks many of the effects I enjoy.
Oral is good, seems to give more of a body high. More mellow and longer lasting.
Sublingual is pretty similar to oral, I guess a bit stronger.
Insufflating is the best way to take it, IMO. Best head high, best amount of stimulation and focus. This is the way I take it 95% of the time.
Transcendence
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That's weird we seem to get the exact opposite effect in regards to insufflation vs sublingual.
trippindave
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MXE is fucking amazing!!! but be careful my friend, i once took 2 gel caps, which is like..im not sure really a very small amount id guess 10 mg in each..anyways my normal dose is 1 cap but i took 2...OH MY GOD...shit was more intense than DMT, LSD, the whole shibang. Not really in a good way either. I was Deeep in the M hole for hours...it was beyond a k hole experience maybe times 10x. so be careful make sure you weight it right.
greenmeanies
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so you don't know how much is in a gelcap (buying it from the guy with the scale?) and you doubled your normal dose... i'd say it was probably more like 40mg *2 = 80mg which explains your hole experience.