Bermudas (2-cb)

[Urbanhog]

Urbanhog you sound jadded by your 2c-b experience, id try 35mg and see if you have the same thoughts of it then.

Nah I discovered better and more interesting products Cactii

Not trying to break the guidelines, but I find Bermudas were sold usually cheaper than "standard" MD** pill prices, which probably lead more users taking them and sold all over Australia because of the price.

You may disagree with me, but thats just my observations.

If they were really 2-cb, they probably would be cost more than the price of the Bermudas I noticed.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Dirty_Deed]

I've had three different batches of bermudas....the first ones being about 2 years ago the really orange ones. I had picked up a few for half the price of a regular pill. The first ones I had (the really orange ones) were prolly the best imo. The others were a lot smoother. All in all, I have to say they definately aren't 2-cb as I have eaten vast quantities of 2cb around the same time I got the first batch of bermudas. I wouldn't be surprised if they were a phen of some sort. But I aint gonna speculate. All I can say is, bermudas were fun pills, made ya trip with no mind fuck, smooth as shite. The third batch i had gave me some awesome visuals after double dumping with a eccy.

I'd also like to say, UrbanHog is right, 2-cb is pretty boring, nothing spectacular, and as someone who has had doses over 50mg of this shit, I can say, big fuckin whoop, gimme some shrooms or 2ci over it any day.

Peace Out

 

[Splatt]

They ARE a phenethlyamine for sure, thats a fact. Which fuck knows?
I can only tell you what they were NOT: So... They were NOT 2C-B, 2C-I, 2C-E or MDA. MDMA, LSD. I aint gonna speculate on what I think it is. But it is a long-lasting, sedating psychedelic phenethylamine, most likely from the 2C-* class. I said they are not the drugs above, because I have experience with all of them.. and this drug in the bermudas was unique

About the testing, they tested clear, but I doubt the drug in the pills was evenly spread through the pill, as most reports of them say when chewed they tasted like re-pressed vitamen C tablets! I swallowed mine so cannot. So yeah, there have still been no GM/CS tests on this pill, so we still don't know what it is. I'd love to know.. but eh! I'll just take the experience as it was... a once off 12 hours of scattered "fun"

 

[Dvah]

all i can say now is that if someone trys to sell u triangles as mdma (very unlikely cause theyre rare and sort after ) tell them its not mdma but u will take it anyway then go sit in a VERY comfortable, controlled, safe, out of harms way spot, strap on ya seat belt and get ready for 6-10 hrs of " I DONT EVEN KNOW WAT IM THINKING, SAYING, SEEING " thats 3 quotes put into 1

I would like to think that most ppl would be smart enough not to touch a pill with an unknown substance in it.
I wouldnt touch these "rare and sort after" pills with a ten foot pole.

*shrug*

If I want to "feel" like I am on 2-cb, then Ill take 2-cb in pure form, at least then I know what I am taking.

 

[drugfuked]

every pill u purchase has an "unknown substance" in it until u test it. ive read plenty of reports on these pills and would thought that with so many accounts on the experiences felt, concluding 2cb wouldnt be too bad of an assumption. yes assumptions can be dangerous but no one has spoken bad words of these pills and my mate whos had em b4 took them b4 i did, so meh!

 

[Urbanhog]

^^^ Just because no one has said bad words about them, and your mates took them before you did, it doesnt mean its OK to take them, even I took it once last year out of stupidity.

But no one knows the long term side effects of these unknown shit.

 

[Dvah]

every pill u purchase has an "unknown substance" in it until u test it. ive read plenty of reports on these pills and would thought that with so many accounts on the experiences felt, concluding 2cb wouldnt be too bad of an assumption. yes assumptions can be dangerous but no one has spoken bad words of these pills and my mate whos had em b4 took them b4 i did, so meh!

Yes, and thats why, if you are sensible...you will be testing each pill you purchase.
Its called harm minimisation.

Meh?

 

[Jimity]

{EDIT}Fuck me. How'd I manage that? I believe that was meant to be in the Transmission thread..... lets pretend it didnt happen....... It's all those RC's I tell ya!{/EDIT}

 

[Dvah]

Hrmmm...
You on 2c-b right now Jimity?

Glad you had a good night though. wherever you were

 

[MoeBro]

But no one knows the long term side effects of these unknown shit.

and that means what?
noone knows the long term side effects of countless drugs that you probably constantly consume.

Hence Research Chemicals?

Fuck, coming to that, we don't really know the long term side effects of long term, regular MDMA use either. Just a few occasional documentations where we've been told 'Its neurotoxic' and then another study saying 'Its not neurotoxic'

 

[drugfuked]

if ur mate come to u saying: " dude i have the craziest fuking experience for u in my hand right now. ive done em a few times and wholey fuk its good!! " then i go and test them and find they dont react. even though ive read up lots about em and know that ppl arent droppin dead off em .. am i gonna say nah man fuk u these are duds i dont want em!! ? i dont think so..

and that means what?
noone knows the long term side effects of countless drugs that you probably constantly consume.

Hence Research Chemicals?

Fuck, coming to that, we don't really know the long term side effects of long term, regular MDMA use either. Just a few occasional documentations where we've been told 'Its neurotoxic' and then another study saying 'Its not neurotoxic'

well put mate

 

[Dvah]

If someone offered me a pill, that was the "craziest pill on the planet" according to them, and I tested it, and it didn't react. Yes, I would be concerned.
I also wouldn't be taking them.
That's just me though, I am as cautious as I "can" be when it comes to knowing what we put into our bodies.

Glad to see your having a good time on the bermudas dude.

 

[BigTrancer]

Hey drugfuked, just because other people haven't had a bad reaction to an unknown unidentifiable chemical doesn't mean it's necessarily safe for you to ingest.

Anyone here ever heard of MPTP? One of the early 'research chemicals'...

BigTrancer

 

[Dvah]

MPTP is a contaminant that can result from sloppy synthesis of MPPP, a street analog of the opioid meperidine (Demerol). MPTP is a known industrial toxin which affects the dopaminergic neurons of the substantia nigra, once it has metabolized to MPP+ (1-methyl-4-phenylpyridinium). Because of these effects, cases of Parkinson's Disease caused by MPTP have been reported.

MPTP in supplies of "Designer Meperidine" was responsible for a rash of cases of Parkinson's in the early 1980s. Media reports which may have confused "MPTP" with "MDMA" -- which was in the news around the same time -- led to the persisting rumor that MDMA may lead to Parkinson's. The legislative, media, and law enforcement hysteria from this problem were key to the institution of the Analogue Drug laws in the United States.


Uh huh... (thanks to our good friend erowid for that snippet)
Also remembering that each individual reacts differently to different substances.
Its just not safe to take a substance "just because" people you know have taken it, and "they" were fine.
Thats the only point Im trying to make here.

 

[Tabernacle]

Beat me too it Dvah, top work!
Those crazy research chemists, we sell u anything. It's all about the degree of risk you're willing to take, i'd take the 30mg vial of 2CB powder, from somebody that knew what they're doing, rather than some untestable pill proporting to be 2CB

 

[Dirty_Deed]

shit I reckon BL should put an end to the bermuda debate. Fucken no one will ever no what's in the fuckin things. Life goes on, ppl had their fun, let's leave it at that FFS!!

 

[ld50 vs ssri]

Well is there anyway to send them to www.ecstasydata.org with a fee ofcourse which im quite happy to pay for. i believe they were at there strongest when i recieved them in darwin 2.5 years ago BOY were they PEAK material.

This pill along with The Blue barrels are on top of my list for a GCMS test somehow ?

Any ideas ?

 

[BigTrancer]

Sadly, there isn't any legal way to get a pill from Australia to anywhere overseas... From ecstasydata.org

Please read these instructions carefully before sending in a pill for testing.

Place the whole pill in a crush-proof container like a film canister or small plastic bottle. Insert cotton or tissue into the container to prevent the pill from shaking around and breaking during transport. The lab will not accept crushed or partial tablets...

If you want to send a film cannister or small container overseas, you have to sign a customs declaration, stating that the contents is not illegal or dangerous. Therefore you break the law several times, by being in purchasing/possessing an illicit drug, then fraud, then export of illegal drugs. Furthermore:

Can tablets be sent from outside the United States?
This program is intended for US residents only. Because of the relatively high cost of testing tablets, we need to limit its scope to the United States though we occasionally make exception by prior arrangement. So please, do not send pills from Canada or from any place else outside the United States...

Note that this doesn't mean it's impossible to send a pill to ecstasydata.org for analysis! It just means you'd probably have to contact them in advance to work out means of transporting the drug and paying for the testing.

BigTrancer

 

[ld50 vs ssri]

Thanking u BT well i guess i will chase up this matter id like to put an end to the mystery of the blue barrels and the mysteries of vitamin c Bermuda Triangles. Im actually quite tempted to quit Mdxx all together just to purchase pills for transportation to the US for gcms. this comes at a cost but how sweet would that be

 

[drugfuked]

Hey drugfuked, just because other people haven't had a bad reaction to an unknown unidentifiable chemical doesn't mean it's necessarily safe for you to ingest.

this is true and a big point in the whole harm minimisation thingy but if we didnt try new things ( that ppl assure us are the bomb ) then bluelight wouldnt exist would it