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Benzo Discussion Vol. 3 (I think? Last night's a blur..)

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tried some Etiz the other day, was alright. feels like 2 of them = 1 of my shitty Roche
 
parttime crackhead said:
Roche do indeed still make valium. All over Europe apparently. They do not make it in Pakistan though, which is where pretty much everyone's black-market Roche blues tend to claim to be from.
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wtf is wrong with these idiots?

if i was making fake roche on such a scale that i had a blisterpacking machine, I'd make sure they at least said somewhere beleivable on them, like, somewhere that actually makes the fucking things.
 
yep, and the address of some industrial estate in karachi

strips of 10, almost always shit, bunk, underdosed, or another chem altogether.

it seems a few peeps are getting reasonable ones now 8) but i wouldn't risk anything claiming to be roche.
 
I remember munching 10 Diazepam that came from Pakistan. Did absolutely nothing.
I do have a stupid tolerance, but even 5x2mg scripted tablets did more than the whole fucking strip did....
They weren't "Roche". They may have even been the DAZ brand, which I've heard were really quite good.
Could there be fake DAZ out there?

I guess it's not unfeasible seeing as DAZ have worked up a reputation as being good.

Can't trust owt unless it's scripted really. Even if it's in powdered form, you can never be 100% sure that 1mg = 1mg, or .5mg / .25mg or even 2mg.
"Pure Powdered Benzos" are dodgy to use as it is 8(

If only we could all be scripted a shit load of Nimetazepam tablets 8) We'd all be very Erimin....
 
Erimin = Nimetazepam = Happy 5's

Very popular in the Far East, not really available elsewhere. Reputedly the most euphoric benzo (temazepam being rated as second most euphoric). I'd <3 to have a crack at 'em but they make hen's gnashers seem commonplace :(

And ya, longterm benzo use can cause/aggrevate depression. Is one of many reasons I stopped using 'em daily years ago. Strictly "as required" these days. Keeps tolerance minimal and effects maximal but also means my doctors have been happy to keep me on continous script of diaz and temaz for nigh-on 20 years now. And only aggravate my depression if combo'd with booze now really.
 
Spot on Shammy (Yellow asked me to reply but you've done such a wonderful job I needn't do!).

The only thing that seems to fluctuate with Benzos is post-use aggression / irritation for me.
If I take 100mg of Temazepam, I'm fine and dandy. If I take an equivalent dosage of Nitrazepam then the next day I'm extremely short tempered and irritable - Akin to how Opiates can make you grumpy on the tail end of things.
Punched a whole in a wall made of chip-board due to things not happening how I wished them the day after a Nitraz binge (bad-ass me" Chip-board is not safe round my parts! 8) ).

But yes, they certainly have the ability to change your emotions long and short term.
 
I don't know if it's just me or not, but I always seem to wake up really early if I have had some diazepam the night before.
I don't take large doses,I guess the most I have taken in one evening was 40mg.
Even though I wake up early I am usually wide awake quickly and in a good mood, whereas normally it takes me a while to wake up and about 30mins before I can even think of talking to anyone.
 
atm23 said:
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I don't disbelieve you in the least, I think someone else said the same recently, but why would anyone press pills with Roche on them, I'd avoid them like the fekin plague as I've seen and been burned with so many fakes or badly under dosed ones.

You got to think they must be coming from Lahore, may be someone over there has wised up and decided to start pressing something decent for a bit to get some kind of reputation back but with Roche not manufacturing anymore it does seem odd, you would have though blanks would be a better bet from a sales point of view.

Are they blister packed ?
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No I was just invited to take a handful from a bag of thousands. I guess if they weren't blistered then...anyways they seemed damn straight, however the colouration was very speckly and the blue had a green tint which makes me think they were an illicit press, and the fact that they fucking floored me! What else was in them???
 
I guess it makes sense that that region of the world could quite easily dope up diazepam with gear.

If I hadn't been smoking b at the time I could give you a much fairer assessment!soz : (
 
nononononono, sorry i was joking, i don't think anyone would dose a 2pence costing diaz/phenaz with smack...

i was not serious.

sorry for misunderstanding.
 
brimz said:
This thread has gone to the dogs !

It's more the EADD benzo sourcing thread at times.

Just about everything in here is subjective and whoever thinks that benzo equivalancey charts are anything near correct really needs help no offence like it's a fact that those charts are bollox as they don't take in to account many factors .
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I think the chart is fairly accurate. I've tried most of the benzos on the chart, and have never thought it was way out. Do I need help? What 'factors' do you mean? It obviously assumes you've not switched to taking heroin with your benzos, or any other major change.
What do you think the chart should look like? For example; 2mg of xanax feels pretty much the same as 40mgs of Diaz, after the initial hit. Same with clonazepam. I think lorazepam is complete wank, so I'll give you that one. Temaz seems accurate... Does anyone else think it's wrong? I've never really questioned it, as it seems spot on. I'm assuming they took the affinity for the GABA-a receptor into account, which would almost be proof. I have no idea if that's the case, however.
 
I'm getting a Clonazepam script on Thursday .this has been negotiated finally i suggested it a while back .
I'll have to stop my Liquid Moggys mind and i do like it i'm hoping to get liquid Clonazepam but i don't think it's availible in the U.K if it is i 'll get it .
For the mean time i managed to get 8mg a day.

4 times 2mg a day .
I think thats a result i luv Rivotril ( brand name ) it's got to be one of the best Benzos .
I've had it b4 a few times real scripted they come with a double break line cos they are so strong .
 
Shambles said:
Chart never seemed that accurate to me, to be honest. YMMV and all that.
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5It's bang off and some charts are different to others and different countrys use different charts tis all to cock i say .

I mean 1mg Lorazepam = 10mg diaz or 20mg Temazepam get out of here .

I manged to get 12mg a day Lorazepam sript in exchange for 50mg of diaz i thought i had a result but i was gutted .
Lorazepam have to be one of the weakest shite benzos ever imo .
Like i said it's all subjective i don't think you can really be right or wrong everyone reacts different like .

@Treacle i see you had a similar experience with Lorazepam !!.
i don't get shit off Xanax either really or Temazepam well i will for about 2 weeks then they just stop working .

Mind i have a gargantic tolerance maybe ONE of the biggest around these parts .
 
First things first, mods....I'm not sourcing, nor am I looking for advice on how to scam the system for free recrreational scripts. If this is inappropiate, please delete, and PM letting me know any other ways I can ask the question, or just give me you're own personal advice via PM.

Anyway. After being a sporadic diazepam user for about a year, I feel I've now kicked in on the head. I had previously used anyhitng from 10-50mg a week for about a year. Some days using 50mg in one night, and other times taking 7-10 day break with no major issues (slight anxiety and insomnia ocurred, but nothing anywhere near troublesome). I'm at that stage again now at which I haven't used for about 8 days. I feel OK. No need current need/want to redose. The thing is I'm going to Thailand in 4 days. And I know how strict they are over there, As confident as I am that I am free of any adverse withdrawal type symptoms, I have a lingering (horrible) fear that I might get some sort of delayed withdrawal symptoms once I'm other there, and then be up shits creek! So my question is..... how easy is it to go to my GP and cite fear of flying as a reason to get a minute script of diaz to take with me for if worse came to worse?

I'd like to stress this isn't an attempt at advice for a free benzo script, What I have said is 100% genuine. I'm aware I could come clean to my doc with my situion and he'd probably accomodate. Its jus with the career I'm planning to embark on I need a completely cleac medical/health history.
 
That kinda is sourcing... but why not just get them over in Thailand if you need them? Seems to work for Spade.
 
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