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Benzo Discussion Vol. 3 (I think? Last night's a blur..)

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brimz said:
Cheers i was jus curious no chance i'll be buying any .

I once could get the 10/2 amps @ a v good price but never ventured in 2 that market bar that exscurion .

Nor will i less is more n cos of my huge tolerance their is no point in me taking heroic doses they have no effect 30mg is fine 300mg would be less efective in my case if that makes sense .

It's cos i've done the 600mg in a day when i was in Portugal n had unlimited acces to proper benzos.
Since then it's never been the same .

I could get 60 Ratiopharm for 2euro 30 . n also the Normison yellow eggs the last ones the chemist said that after this lot their would be no more he was a sound guy would let me have 2 boxes of each every week .
Also i had other places always Ratiopharm n they only do boxes of 60 n won't split .

Thats when i see folk talk bout eggs i 'm cynical they must be snide well not made to BP or Euro spec anyhow.

The only benzo i've never gone for is Xanax only had it a couple times n was v. disapointed .
Some folk luv it .
As ever Diazepam is the one i think. Lorazepam has no effect on me at all !!!
Temazepam is nice every 3 months or so i ruined that with my massive Linctus script n after a couple of tabs it stops working.

THe exotic ones like Nimetazepam are a dif ball game as Monsta pointed out .
Still find that Moggys work n i been on them since about 2001 i found a old packet .

So thats where i'm at these days .
30mgdiaz n 15mg nitraz.
Not to bad considering where i 've come from .
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Their you go
amongst that is some stuff about doing huge doses .
 
loulou reed said:
There are people who are *quite* immune (ie to a certain point) to benzo withdrawals, atm. I know that because I'm one of them.
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Thanks Mr Lou, I'm not about to test the theory on myself, I just wanted to be sure this poster wasn't taking long half life Benzos every few days and thinking that meant he didn't have a dependence or risk of WDs and seizures.

My use seems to have plateaued, I put the taper on hold due to too much going on in my life (another excuse I know) bit at a level I'm happy with but none the less its not spiraling higher and higher at a stupid rate and can vary quite a bit from day to day.
 
Cheers fellas. your right about the heroic doses. I'm a cunt with any think about me though. I once got a bottle of GBL and flushed it after the first night because I liked it to much and knew where it would lead. I'm a greedy fucker with pills as well. I had it down to keeping hold of 10 diaz and posting the rest back to me for a while but fuck that after a while. I appreciate the help. I know all to well about the horror stories and am glad I've never been prescribed these wee fuckers. I never do them for more than a few days (they wouldn't last that long anyway)

To brimz... I'm a bit like you with Diaz. Its the only one I really fancy. Temaz doesn't touch the sides. Xanax just blanks me out. Kpins I only tried once and feel a sleep in the park on the beer.. strong stuff. Never had any exotic ones, couldn't really see them being all that tbh.
 
Yeah Diaz FTW, but I like the dirty PK cheap shit whilst Brimz has to have his red, white and blue BP supply, snobby feker that he is ;)
 
Supersamba, if you're using diaz recreationally in the manner you're describing then I'm afraid to say your problems run deeper than tolerance (or possibly bunk / underdosed pills, from the sound of the amounts you've been ingesting, as well as some of your other comments).

It might do you a lot of good to stay away from the benzos (and the booze if you can help it) and try and address whatever it is in your life that's causing you to seek the kind of oblivion and emotional numbness that the booze and benzo combo provides.

Easier said than done, I know for a fact. Still, it definitely sounds like you need to do something about it.
 
I get where your coming from mate but (gonna sound like I'm in denial here lol) I just like a drink and until lately got a nice dunt of of the diaz. Same way people like say speed or opiates... they just like the feeling (which I can't fucking stand)

The doses have risen as I've chased the buzz which I now know is useless. I'm not a mad boozer by any means (according to NHS guidelines I am but who the fuck sticks to them?) 5 cans of Stella would fill my night in no problem. I have alcohol free days. My problem is I've never met anyone as sporadic with drugs as myself. There is absolutely no pattern to my madness lol. I could go weeks without anything the a week on it etc etc. Don't want to ramble on and I very much appreciate the concern but I think I know the answer to my own questions as many do, and am just basically looking for someone to tell me what I already know.
 
Fair enough. It's easy to fall back on one or both as a way to help you function, as you seem to be aware. Just as long as you're monitoring your use.
 
Did think I had a problem with the booze a while back but to be honest I think I was reading to much into it and reading to many forums. I think a lot of poeple fall back on the booze as a crutch or maybe have under lying issues its blocking out for them. For me at the time... I'd just to much time on my hands and would just have a swally. Under control now. Going off track sorry.

Back to the benzos folks.
 
Im on a reduction dose and am prescribed 30mgs a day, it's doing me good even though I was doing 100mg a day before!

I was still tempted into scoring twenty blues this morning though, tut tut
 
Cheers mate, I felt nothing dropping From 100 th 30 but I hera it once you start getting below 30 that it becomes noticeable! The worst is still to come! ;)
 
No never .

They used to make 10mg moggys years ago here.

When i had them in sri lanka they were 5mg & the same size (about the same as a parcetamol ) like they are here.
You get some fukin weird n wonderfull shit mate :)
DM pills last week 10mg moggys this i'm waiting what comes next you wanna get the methadone amps that you said were availible if you still can they are decent .
Your not supposed to iv them but ....
 
Been on and off - mostly on - benzo scripts since November, for insomnia, panic attacks and anxiety. Right now, the worst of it is the insomnia; I don't get the panic attacks nearly as often anymore, and can sometimes psyche myself out of them, and though I do feel anxiety throughout many days I find ways to cope with it. Sleep deprivation, however, is something that I can't really overcome.

I've got 0,5mg clonazepam for anxiety maintenance, but I don't eat them anymore. I keep a couple in my pocket; that's usually enough to keep anxiety at tolerable levels. I do not, however, find them in the least bit sedating; I'd need to add alcohol and would very quickly exhaust my clonazepam if I used that for sleep.

I was then prescribed 10-20mg temazepam at night for insomnia, once again. Before, it has worked for the first twoo weeks or so with little problems, after which tolerance rose quickly. This time, I find that I need about 40mg right from the beginning. When I asked her about other alternatives, the doctor said that zolpidem and temazepam are the only ones really prescribed these days; the others would have lingering hangover effects (or be inappropriate due to short half-lives). This is untrue - lormetazepam, for example, has a similar half-life, as does lorazepam. I also have a previous script for nitrazepam, which I intend to show her - and I'll tell her that I'm quite willing to take the drug 2 hours before bedtime and feel groggy in the morning if that's what it takes to get to sleep.
 
Acidtek said:
Cheers mate, I felt nothing dropping From 100 th 30 but I hera it once you start getting below 30 that it becomes noticeable! The worst is still to come! ;)
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Did you drop straight from 100 to 30, I've got all my wok shit sorted now so have to deal with this stupid diaz habit but tapering is really hard for me CT would work so much better but obviously isn't and option.

I'm not concerned about rebound anxiety all I'm bothered about is not having a seizure, so lets sat, just for the sake of the question I was doing an average of 150 do you think i could drop that to 50 overnight then taper down slowly from there. Tapering slowly from 150 will take months and I fear I'll fail in that period.

Also are you using a detox center to do this one, I did for the booze but kind of assumed they wouldn't prescribe me Diaz for any reason, maybe I'm wrong on that one, I could really do with a daily pick up and a clear out of all other stock.

the last week has been hell on earth due to my soon to be ex employer trying it on in the most disgraceful manner just to save themselves few quid and be vindictive because I'm moving to a competitor so I've been caining the Diaz like its going out of fashion, just tipping out a handful and necking them day and night, its gotta stop and I have a couple of weeks before I start my new job to get myself together.

So what the opinion how low could I go without really risking a seizure, I've been using daily for about 6 months and my current average daily intake is (trying to take into account the under dosing of cheap PK pills ) around the 100-150mg mark.
 
Got some daz diazepam here today, wee blue pills with a break line on the back. What do people think of this brand as I'm not too knowledgeable with benzos?

I've eaten 4 of these so far and a bit disappointed was hoping to be a bit more wobbly. But I aint I hate too much. Also, what's the conclusion with the frequent sublinguial vs oral debate. I munched 2 then did the other 2 sublinguial since I ate previously. Hopefully these are still going a wee bit in the morning to make the day easier. Right now I just feel like listening to acid techno and making a load of toast.
 
Yes brimz, sublingual is gonna last shorter vs oral which lasts longer.
 
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