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Benzo Discussion v4

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Short-acting benzo's generally are best for putting you to sleep, Alprazolam and Midazolam are (IMO) the best short-acting ones on yr list, take with a carbonated drink and it'll hit you within minutes. Longer-acting benzo's (diaz, loraz, clonaz) often come on slower but will help you stay asleep and not wake up as soon as the short-acting one wears off, so supplement as needed.
 
Cheers for that guys, i can see their benefits on a come down, but fuck me there are some horror stories on that link!!

Definitely something to be respected, I have enough issues with opiates, without adding them into the mix!!

Which would you say are best just for simply knocking you out after a coke a session?
 
The one i posted?

Yeah that is basically the Benzo Bible . Proff. Ashton is probably the most qualified person in the world ? When it comes top Benzo's .

& seeing as thi is a Harm Reductio Forum i think it's important that if someone is interested in Benzo's that they get all of the information Good & Bad & theh only way is the Ashton Manual .

It's saved a good few peoples lives .

I'm a benzo veteran . Scripted for ages so i know every single one of those benzo's you mentioned cos i think i have had all of them.

but i can't help you with manufacturers thats' just not my thing although i do have my favorite Depends where i am

No i haven't been prescribed Midaz.

But i've had the 15mg /3ml amps

But i've had all the rest i don't do Z Drugs either . Cross Tolerance & no recreational value + Mouth like you been eating tin foil:|
 
Yeh, in teh link you posted, that is worthwhile reading for anyone who is considering using them daily

http://www.benzo.org.uk/stories.htm

People have lost decades of their lives in a blur, mostly due to bad doctors, but are not something to be messed with. Obvioulsy there are stories where they have been a blessing, but as you said it is important to fully understand what yuo are getting into before you do.
 
Yeah having been on them for so many years i feel it is important that people know what they are potentially putting themselves in for.
What with all these RC Benzo's folk be using then & not aware of all potential downsides.
 
Without getting too personal, and just tell me to fuck off, but have the benefots outweighted the negatives for you?
 
I've had a habit for decades on B & W . I get benzos rx as well have done for years use to manipulate like fuk when i as a young un . Got Loads as well .

I just get a small dose these days 30mg diaz
15nitraz aday
 
anyone had these terapia ranbaxy 10mg diazs, seem quite strong for the price they were, grabbed a box not much on the blister packs at all, think the best ive had in a whikle.
 
Is spain and portugal still pretty good for pharmacys selling benzos and other things? I'd be interested if i ever went over to visit mates in portugal.
 
FINALLY got a valium script from my Doctor! I moved surgerys recently, and ended up back with the doctor who was the first one to prescribe me methadone as part of the script in a day trial with bristol university, he was happy to see how well I was looking, and that I had a job, but was finding coping with work after such a long breack difficult (there are other parts to that story which i'll leave out) and basically, saw the sense in what I told him and agreed to script me 20mg a day. Something i've needed for a long time.
 
^ Good news, Cherry. You've done well to find a doc so understanding and accepting of the fact that benzos are excellent when used for the "right" reasons. Keep it up - you're doing great %)=D<3

You knows it.

One of the few who appreciate the Moggies . Usually it's older Folks as well cos not that many youngsters get Nitrazepam .
You get Teamzes don't you ?

Fella I know here - young fella - adores his moggies. He uses any and all benzos he can get but is really only interested in getting as fukked up as possible so favours moggies for preference. Is why I never liked 'em personally. Just too long duration and leave me feeling zombified and stooopid for 2-3 days after dosing. Same reason I'm not mad keen on diaz really. But is indispensable used at "functional" rather than recreational doses. I just don't find benzos very recreational in general these days, though. I prefer temaz and alpraz as they are the only ones I really find at all recreational. Clonaz is somewhat recreational for me but is truly outstanding at functional and therapeutic levels.

I think benzos are one of those groups of drugs where ymmv is truly king. Each to their own innit.
 
FINALLY got a valium script from my Doctor! I moved surgerys recently, and ended up back with the doctor who was the first one to prescribe me methadone as part of the script in a day trial with bristol university, he was happy to see how well I was looking, and that I had a job, but was finding coping with work after such a long breack difficult (there are other parts to that story which i'll leave out) and basically, saw the sense in what I told him and agreed to script me 20mg a day. Something i've needed for a long time.
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Nice one Cherry , sounds like you are doing ok <3
 
^ Good news, Cherry. You've done well to find a doc so understanding and accepting of the fact that benzos are excellent when used for the "right" reasons. Keep it up - you're doing great

Yeah, I'm very lucky as I know it can be difficult to find a doctor who will even listen let alone understand. Most doctors have only given me a weeks worth, not a continuous script, or refused to start me on a script as I'd always just been tapered via rehab or jail or something. The doctor I saw yesterday though is the doctor who was involved in the trial I was part of when I just got onto Methadone, so saw me 2 years ago when I was flat out and a skinny little thing looking malnourished and in need of some TLC, so he's glad to see me looking and doing so well, he said so himself. I think he wants me to continue on that way.

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Nice one Cherry , sounds like you are doing ok <3

Getting there, slowly :) Still not over all the hurdles, but I'll knock them all down eventually.
 
Yeah that is basically the Benzo Bible. Proff. Ashton is probably the most qualified person in the world ? When it comes top Benzo's.
Abso-fuckin-lutely!
That site has helped me so, so many times. She is the Benzo Don. Likely helped hundreds of thousands of people hooked on Benzos to get off them in the most careful and least painful manner ever :)
Infact I told my GP to check out her site and she thanked me for it! Proff. Ashton is a brilliant Scientist and Benzo-Free "Life Coach" in a sense :)

Cherry - Lovely to catch you on here and to hear that you're doing a great deal better at the moment lovely :)~<3
Much respect and love to you!
#~{^_^}~#
 
somone was asking to compare the 3. These 3 happen to be the only ones i can compare. Its just my opinion and how i found they affected me.

1. pyrazolam is crap. really. just fullstop. its a poor mans etizolam. half the effects twice the price ? Why ?

2. Phenezepam is dangerously addictive. With many vendors You have to buy at least a gram, a thousand doses if you mix with mpg. It then seem as if youve got an enormous supply there so you get stuck in. It depends what you like your benzos to do, i think this one pretty much blocks all high level functioning. Sustained use of 2g orf phenaz bought on physical and possibly mental side effects. It must have fucked up the part of my brain associated with learning, memory and hand to eye coordination. I could no longer type any better than a 2 year old. This was very worrying. Fortunately after a couple of non phenaz weeks, my nimble fingers and automatic element of typing have returned.

3. etizolam. a safer bet all round. Try to get the etilaams in the foil strips of 10 so u should be fairly confident they are 100 % genuine and spot on. Etiz looses its hypnotic properties after a few months, and the anxiolotyc effects are also suffering hugely from massive tolerance. I can also see the end of my supply now. Its clearly time to start taking my taper seriously. Although ive had such a shit week, with so much negative shit chuntering away in my head ive had to take a load to shut that crap off. I really wanna stop before i totally destroy the anxiolytic effects of etiz. That is such a useful pill to have at your disposal for when needed, but not to be taken every day like me who couldnt resist.
 
Managed to source some mogadon the other day.

Twas surprisingly lacking in the euphoric department and gave me a groggy hangover type feeling the day after (I did take a 25mg dose though).

CCF what a lucky so & so with your prescription. It gives hope that one day a doc might realize I need a lil help....


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