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Benzo Discussion v4
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brimz
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If you can give it a go but be careful . It may come across as not good . Have a good think as it could end up with no Temazepam or anything .
I've seen it happen . Matey asks for extra benzo get's flagged & made to reduce what he had .
I've seen it happen . Matey asks for extra benzo get's flagged & made to reduce what he had .
stasia9875
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I have a question. I take 3mgs of klonopin a day but I an wondering how much should I take to just knock my ass out. I just want to sleep for a while. Any suggestions?
Pagey
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My suggestion is don't use lots of benzos to knock yourself out. You'll probably end up feeling like absolute shit the next day.
But if you're determined to, try like 6mg. You can always redose a bit if that's not enough.
brimz
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6 mg of Clonazepam no that is not harm reduction .
FFS Clonazepam is 0.5 = 10mg diazepam so that would be 120mg of diazepam equivalent . or even better240mg temazepam.
Folk got to realise that this Clonazepam is strong benzo . That's why it comes in 0.5mg tabs .
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Mela
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It is - and its lovely and minty as well :D
Even 3mg per day is quite a dose.
Even 3mg per day is quite a dose.
Acid4Blood
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Yeah, I really like the taste of clonazepam. Definately the most pleasant tasting benzo when chewed.
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clonaz. Shame it's so rare over here. Acquired a few a while back and half a 2mg tab (or even a quarter for that matter) had me feeling very pleasant for quite some time (with low benzo tolerance). I found it very much an anxiolytic rather than hypnotic. I wouldn't use it to sleep.
clonaz. Shame it's so rare over here. Acquired a few a while back and half a 2mg tab (or even a quarter for that matter) had me feeling very pleasant for quite some time (with low benzo tolerance). I found it very much an anxiolytic rather than hypnotic. I wouldn't use it to sleep.
lurching
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Agreed, tis definitely not an effective hypnotic... Oxazepam feels pretty similar to me.
oSpherical
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I've recently gotten samples of 3 novel benzodiazepines from a UK vendor, but given that there doesn't yet appear to be any information on them, I'm not sure if it's worth being one of the first people to test them
I'm checking here to see if anyone might have more information regarding the chemicals.
Unfortunately the vendor hasn't labeled them too well, so I can't give too much information:
These are the best descriptions I have for them, but I'm not fully sure which description applies to which chemical.
- A legal Valium analgoue
- A derivative of Pyrazolam with added hypnotic/sedative properties to coincide with its unparalleled anxilytic properties
- An Alpha 5 selective benzodiazepine (so almost identical to alcohol)
The chemicals are (with my guesses for which descriptions correspond to them):
Cl-Diazepam (The valium analogue?)
Pynazolam (Pyrazolam derivative?)
Pyeazplam (Alpha 5 selective benzo?)
Anyone have any ideas?
I'm checking here to see if anyone might have more information regarding the chemicals.
Unfortunately the vendor hasn't labeled them too well, so I can't give too much information:
These are the best descriptions I have for them, but I'm not fully sure which description applies to which chemical.
- A legal Valium analgoue
- A derivative of Pyrazolam with added hypnotic/sedative properties to coincide with its unparalleled anxilytic properties
- An Alpha 5 selective benzodiazepine (so almost identical to alcohol)
The chemicals are (with my guesses for which descriptions correspond to them):
Cl-Diazepam (The valium analogue?)
Pynazolam (Pyrazolam derivative?)
Pyeazplam (Alpha 5 selective benzo?)
Anyone have any ideas?
Pagey
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If (s)he takes 3mg daily and wants to be knocked out, I really don't think 6mg is such a stretch...especially since literally nothing dangerous can come out of that. If it's not mixed with other CNS depressants obviously, but that's a given when dealing with benzos.
Is quite a bit more when doubling up strong benzos like that though - Brimz does have a point. I think the maths may be slightly off (or more likely mine are 
) cos isn't it 120mg diaz equivalent? Jumping from 60mg to 120mg is a helluva jump. Not dangerous as such, but still a helluva difference. I'd suggest not using clonaz for sleep at all cos it doesn't work for sleep, personally.
) cos isn't it 120mg diaz equivalent? Jumping from 60mg to 120mg is a helluva jump. Not dangerous as such, but still a helluva difference. I'd suggest not using clonaz for sleep at all cos it doesn't work for sleep, personally.
Pagey
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My bad then, didn't mean to suggest anything dangerous. I just said that because that's what I would jump to with such a tolerance if I wanted to be properly knocked out, and it's not as if it could hurt him (especially since I'm assuming he has a decent tolerance already if he's on 3mg daily). Worst comes to worst he'd have a headache the next day. But I apologise if I was mistaken.
I did mention I don't think taking benzos for sleep is a very good idea in the first place though.
Lots of great sleep meds you can get OTC, like melatonin. As a general rule, when benzos can be avoided I think it's usually best to choose the other option.
(But yeah brimz that would be equivalent to 120mg diazepam, not 240)
I did mention I don't think taking benzos for sleep is a very good idea in the first place though.
Lots of great sleep meds you can get OTC, like melatonin. As a general rule, when benzos can be avoided I think it's usually best to choose the other option.
(But yeah brimz that would be equivalent to 120mg diazepam, not 240)
brimz
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This wasn't personal it was plain common sense .
6mg of Clonazepam is a fukin big stretch . I have been getting rx benzo's for nearly 20 years & have had major issues with them as well as seeing friends end up dead because of taking big doses .
Granted it might not have been the benzo's that killed them but the decisions they made because they were under the influence of benzo's lead directly to their Death .
This is not personal but folk have to take notice that these drugs are fukin dangerous & highly addictive .
That's more like it Pagey
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Wasn't saying that it was necessarily dangerous as such so much as excessive. Assuming a decent tolerance it's pretty unlikely clonaz is gonna be much use for sleep at all. Didn't make me drowsy even with essentially zero tolerance.
Pagey
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This wasn't personal it was plain common sense .
6mg of Clonazepam is a fukin big stretch . I have been getting rx benzo's for nearly 20 years & have had major issues with them as well as seeing friends end up dead because of taking big doses .
Granted it might not have been the benzo's that killed them but the decisions they made because they were under the influence of benzo's lead directly to their Death .
This is not personal but folk have to take notice that these drugs are fukin dangerous & highly addictive .
my bad on the maths but still 120mg is huge amounts
In fact i was actually prescribed that amount & it has taken the best part of 12 years to get down to 30mg
That's more like it Pagey
I know it wasn't personal, I just genuinely didn't think it was that huge a dose to suggest considering the circumstances. As I said, it's what I would have taken were I in his place. I was of course obviously assuming that he wouldn't be going out or try to do anything on such a dose but would just be in bed, which makes it difficult to make any dangerous decisions - and in itself we all know 6mg clonazepam wouldn't hurt him at all.
I never meant to suggest benzos aren't dangerous and I don't think I did in my post...I'm the first person to agree that those things can be both very addictive and very dangerous, having dealt with a massive alprazolam addiciton last year, but I simply answered his question with what I judged to be the best answer. Again, apologies if I gave unsafe advice.
Well yeah that's why I suggested so much - clonaz isn't great for sleep so if you wanna be knocked out with a tolerance at 3mg a day, as I said, I don't think 6mg is such a stretch. Would obviously not have suggested such a jump if we were talking about alprazolam or temazepam, for instance.
brimz
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Pagey
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No need to be so condescending dude...jesus.
Right now you've edited it so it looks like I'm just being paranoid. Seriously though, I already apologised and admitted I might be wrong, I was just explaining my reasoning. There's really no need to lay it on just to make me feel bad or something.
And actually no, if 0.5 clonaz = 10mg diaz, 6mg clonaz is indeed equivalent to 120mg diaz since 6 = 12 x 0.5 and 120 = 12 x 10.
Right now you've edited it so it looks like I'm just being paranoid. Seriously though, I already apologised and admitted I might be wrong, I was just explaining my reasoning. There's really no need to lay it on just to make me feel bad or something.
And actually no, if 0.5 clonaz = 10mg diaz, 6mg clonaz is indeed equivalent to 120mg diaz since 6 = 12 x 0.5 and 120 = 12 x 10.
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