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Been gifted a authentic and wedinos tested Quualude from 1970s. What dose?

Perkins : Reborn said:
I can guarantee that the positive reviews are either placebo, shills or people who don't want to admit they've been ripped off.

And ulcers? You don't need that shit. Not even for a decent drug.
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Possibly with the first part, although if the randomly dosed pills theory is correct, maybe those that had good experiences, were genuine, and they received fully or even over-dosed pills. Hard to tell at this stage.

As to the ulcers, obviously I wouln't go out of my way to get them, but I occasionally give in to cravings for a kebab or curry, forgetting, or not caring about the ulcers that will appear in a day or 2.

They are usually just a very minor inconvenience for me. Provided I remember to apply bonjela to the ulcer before going to sleep, the ulcers are usually better by the next morning, and completely gone or at least completely painless by day 2, again provided the bonjela was used. It also works during the day as local anaesthetic, but it does depend very much on where the ulcer is, as to whether it's easy to avoid aggravating it when eating and drinking or not.

But if mouth ulcers are the manifestation of damage to the mouth lining, fuck knows what damage these etaqualone like substances might be doing elsewhere. I guess the same goes for over-spiced food.
 
It's not unusual for spiced food to cause mouth ulcers, in some people. I've seen it listed under causes of ulcers.

My hunch at the moment, is that the randomly dosed pills theory is correct. But obviously that is a major problem in itself.

I don't think I'm going to be spending roughly the cost of a top notch Indian take out for one, on 3 more of these pills, unless I can find a more reliable source or batch.

As things stand at the moment, from my experience so far, you'd probably need 5 - 10 of them to feel anything. Which would be roughly the same price as the most premium top of the range single malt whisky. And the whisky would definitely be a much better choice in terms of VFM.

(Weird price comparisons used, 'cos apparently you're not allowed to discuss prices directly IIRC?)
 
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So wedinos said it was a genuine lude but all the vendors are selling some analogue?
 
Bleaney said:
As to the ulcers, obviously I wouln't go out of my way to get them
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I've tried sublingual a few times and starting to conclude its not the best ROA for 2-Methoxyqualone, my research points to low water solubility, it needs alcohol and/or fat to dissolve and even then you need to consider that fat base might not work sublingually as 2-Methoxyqualone binds strongly to some fats (the experiment continues though!), oral with a glass of wine at the same time seems to give me the best effect so far, not sure if strength of the alcohol is a factor either, you always here about wine and ludes together....

Ismene2 said:
So wedinos said it was a genuine lude but all the vendors are selling some analogue?
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they may be claiming it, but who knows without testing.

Wedinos hasn't tested a genuine lude for about five years.
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Implication is that OP has 1 of the ludes from five years ago....no way to confirm that though unless to test they now! depending on the source this very much could be the Methoxyqualone that's doing the rounds now, who knows
 
placebonaut said:
I've tried sublingual a few times and starting to conclude its not the best ROA for 2-Methoxyqualone, my research points to low water solubility, it needs alcohol and/or fat to dissolve and even then you need to consider that fat base might not work sublingually as 2-Methoxyqualone binds strongly to some fats (the experiment continues though!), oral with a glass of wine at the same time seems to give me the best effect so far, not sure if strength of the alcohol is a factor either, you always here about wine and ludes together....



they may be claiming it, but who knows without testing.


Implication is that OP has 1 of the ludes from five years ago....no way to confirm that though unless to test they now! depending on the source this very much could be the Methoxyqualone that's doing the rounds now, who knows
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It's almost certainly methoxyqualone. Definitely not seventies 'lude.
 
It being legit quaalude is a low probability. But if its a legit one why would 300mg which used to be a prescribed dose be fatal? I honestly would say you could take both of them at once if you were 100% sure it was actual Methaqualone in them.

Even Wikipedia states 8000mg is fatal or as little as 2000mg with alcohol being fatal. I would still take that statement with a grain of salt and never go over 1000mg for safety precautions. But its safer than one might think.
 
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TheLightBringer said:
Even Wikipedia states 8000mg is fatal or as little as 2000mg with alcohol being fatal. I would still take that statement with a grain of salt and never go over 1000mg for safety precautions. But its safer than one might think.
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That's interesting, I assumed it would take less to kill you, maybe 1200 mg. It would also depend on tolerance if you took them regularly. But of course you mix them with opis or alcohol or benzos then it could do it, as long as you don't puke it all up.
 
Perkins : Reborn said:
It's almost certainly methoxyqualone. Definitely not seventies 'lude.
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They advertise it as ludes to get clicks, but the description states 2-Methoxyqualone, so they not trying to bullshit people, just a bit of creative license I think. I'll admit I was tricked at first by the lude advert, people need to be more aware that it's an RC with little data around it

TheLightBringer said:
It being legit quaalude is a low probability. But if its a legit one why would 300mg which used to be a prescribed dose be fatal? I honestly would say you could take both of them at once if you were 100% sure it was actual Methaqualone in them.
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I've come to the same conclusion and that's my plan, just doing it safely and working up to it, no point rushing things.

I can't fine any data on LD50 for 2-Methoxyqualone though, and given the narrow safety window on ludes it does worry me what the window for 2-Methoxyqualone is, I don't really want to be the person who figures it out!!!
Even Wikipedia states 8000mg is fatal or as little as 2000mg with alcohol being fatal. I would still take that statement with a grain of salt and never go over 1000mg for safety precautions. But its safer than one might think.
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think that's for Methaqualone specifically though, 2-Methoxyqualone may very well be different.

Is there anyone with decent chemistry knowledge that would care to speculate about this given the chemical structure??
 
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Perkins : Reborn said:
Crap drug.
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Reactions are so mixed on the group chat of the vendor I used that there is no consensus as of yet, among the people who received these pills.

Several talking about underdosed pills, while others are talking about how good they are.

Personally, I wont get any more 2-Methoxyqualone pills from that vendor, but I might try one more time, using a different vendor. Hoping their batch, or part of the batch, if it's all come from one big batch, is better.

Reports on Reddit are mostly favourable.
 
Perkins : Reborn said:
Crap drug.
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hmm, not sure people in SA would agree with that given the widespread use.

I think for those of us who only have access to analogue's the issue is around potency v price, I've not tried other analogues, but the effects of Methoxyqualone itself are far from crap imho having actually tried it, i've found 2-Methoxyqualone very pleasurable, key that people find a decent source for it, DMs have what looks to be the best source out there right now, read vendor reviews and cross check vendor status on *darkweb forums*. Would also encourage people to read trip reports/experiences about it in other places including reddit.

if you have other sources with trip reports of Methoxyqualone please share, I'd be very interested in reading them - I'm open minded and willing to listen to others view on this to change my own personal view of things

Yes it's not a real lude, but it's about the best we can get right now, and I have no idea how it compares against previous analogues, but 2-Methoxyqualone was 1st detected in mongolia in 2022, clearly being made in China, and it's growing in popularity out there from what I've read.

personally I think it's great, you just need a decent source for it, and then there's the issue of how much to take in 1 go, for me at my body weight ~280lbs a 330mg pill isn't hitting hard enough, and I find it must be taken with alcohol to get the effect - that's what I'm experimenting on right now dosing correctly and finding the right combo. My instinct is to double up on the pills in 1 go, so take 660mg + 2 glasses of wine and some cannabis, I think that's going to be perfect for me, I'm titrating up to that at the moment, will report back over the next few weeks once I've finally got up to that level.
 
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