[Bad Trip Subthread] Have You Ever Had a Bad Trip?

[aquabat]

Also, after much reading and mentally re figuring stuff out. I have decided this semester I will be taking my first dose of LSD.

 

[rickolasnice]

^ the last few times i did acid (over the last 3 years or so) smoking pot catapults me into a bad trip as well. i realised it was the weed's "Fault" because the "nightmare" part would end after 2 hours - ie the length of a pot high. acid alone is great for me, and so is pot alone (or with other various drugs). so why is pot+acid so bad? doesnt make sense. i used t love the combo. maybe its because lsd is so clean, and weed so "dirty" or earthy, kind of a black-magic-witch drug whereas acid is clean-hospital-rooms-and-skylines

Possibly the fact that cannabis tends to make people more inverted and paranoid?

 

[NeuroDr]

i have had dark, very scary experiences, especially on acid, but ive never thought of any as bad experiences at all, i just figure if something scary or bad comes from my mind it must be something to confront

 

[rickolasnice]

Sorry for long post but if you're interested, read on


Diphenhydramine:

I took 750mgs on the 2nd day of sleep deprivation..

My girlfriend was cuddled up with some other guy in the ned next to me, while she decided to dump me and be nasty about it at the same time.. i then notice my closest mates are in the room with us all calling me horrible and disgusting. I lost my girlfriend and friends that night. I was sitting at the foot of the bed crying untill my girlfriend told me to fuck off out of her house and stop being pathetic. I walked home at half 3 am (i took it at 5pm the day before).. i was close to hanging myself. Luckily it started to wear off on the walk back to my parents but i could still not decide wether or not it was real untill i spoke to my girlfriend the next day at 1pm. To my :D it was all in my head..

I feel i learnt something and carrry it with me still today from that ^

On Mushrooms:

At a house with around 10+ mates. Everyone started doin mushrooms. I hadn't slept the night before as i had been doing amphetamine. Eat just under 3g's of potent shrooms and smoke a joint. As i was coming up i was having a game of chess with a friend of mine.. i suddenly peaked hard. I went to move a piece and simply moved it 1 square across cos everythin was goin mad. I started gettin really hot (i thought this was in my head) but when i looked up my friends looked at me like /wtf/ and asked if i was ok cos i was really red. I sat there and pulled myself together. Then i get a txt from a guy i know saying that he's being attacked in wellington. At the time i was in wallington so jumped up ready to go help out untill someone pointed out the fact he didn't say he was in wallington. After a friend called him it turns out he started on someone and was now scared so i just thought "nob" and sat back down. (That guy got pretty bad amphetamine psychosis a few weeks earlier which took him a good couple of months to recover from).

Everything was ok at this point but i kept noticing a friend of mine (qwerty) was looking increasingly more scared. I couldnt tell if it was my hallucinations cos at this point my closest friends were lookin like aliens to me. After a while qwerty got up and sat outside in the hall at the bottom of the stairs so i come out and sat with her to see if she was ok. She was trying to put ear phones in to listen to music but was only tangling up the wires more and more. She then looked at me and struggled to say: I can't see (she was trippin so incredibly hard that she couldnt really see past the visuals). I tried comforting her then she wanted to go up to her room to calm down. We go up to her room and she tells me to put on some music.. but she doesnt know what. I then look at her and she looks like she's in more of a panicked state than i have ever seen anyone.. bright red, eyes wide open, deep breathing and rockin around. I hug her to try and comfort her and she starts rubbin me, she started rubbin my ass so i pulled away..

Just realised im talk about someone elses trip (relates to mine but).. back to mine..

Anyway it ended up with her runnin out of the house (now completely lost it) and me and a friend followed to try and get her back in. I had no shoes on and it was kinda wet. She then started trying to jump through solid objects, screaming, not taking in anythin me or my mate said to her. We couldn't get near her without her freakin out. My mate said it would be best to just hang back and make sure she dnt jump in front of any cars or anything.. so she runs off down the road and starts strippin. All the way.. completely naked. I try to cover her up but she looks at me as if shes gonna hit me and pushes me away. I try again a couple more times and the same thing happens. There have been many people by this point driving past who have seen 2 guys chasing a naked girl down the street screamin.. so police are on their way. My friend decides to call the ambulance to get her to a hospital for some trip killin drugs.

The ambulance and police turn up at the same time and because of her violent state the police take over and restrain her (about 15 police) (Oh and she punched 1 of em ) The police get her in the back of the van to then start threatenin me and my mate with "wastin police time".. we were like ye alright mate lets get to the hospital then. The ambulance driver kindly let me and my friend ride there with them. Once im in the ambulance i realised i not only had my drugs on me, but hers to (i had taken them off her earlier). So i have a bag of cannabis. 2 bags of amphetamine and a bag of shrooms.. i stay cool and we arrive at the hospital waitin room. I say to my mate im gonna go stash the chemicals and he says theres no point, if they havnt searched us already they're not going to..

So we're waiting in the hospital for about 15 mins when 3 police walk in.. come up to us and search us. Shittin myself but played it cool. Got away with it.. Phew! For the rest of the time in hospital i was in a state of semi panick (i don't freak out.. im always able to stay relatively calm). A friend asks if we can go see qwerty because she may respond to familiar faces. She says no but then comes back a couple of minutes later to allow us. We go into a room where there are about 6 police all holding her down to a bed while shes screaming up at a light.. every now and again looking as though shes in a comfortable hypnotic state of bliss.

A bit later on i had to talk to her parents who were trying to get us to leave the hospital, but we refused because our friend wanted her parents to go.. not us. (Shes an adult). In the end security come throw us out and i give him my thoughts on the matter ("you should be throwing them out not us, shes an adult, she can make her own decisions"..) so me and friend get a cab back to the house.

The whole cab journey i was convinced that the driver was police who was gonna bust the house and all my friends as soon as we got there.. He wasn't..

Once back i felt ok.. calm.. cool.

A month later i realised that the past 4 weeks i was a different person. I don't wanna get into how.. but i wasn't me for a month after that experience, but it only hit me that i had been different once i started returning to normal.

Cannabis:

For me the only time cannabis has caused something other than gettin high, anxiety and good ol paranoia is when i smoked 1.2g's of high quality bud in 20 minutes. At first i thought i was gonna whitey, felt hot, weak, and had the 'yellow vision' (dno if others get that) but I've learnt how to manage that situation and just chilled out. I went inside and was sitting with all of my good friends + a few more.. around 8 in total.. no1 i was uncomfortable being with. Then i realised i was being really anti-social, as in not talking atall (quite normal) but then i got caught in this strange thought pattern. I really wanted to join in conversation, but I couldn't think of anything to add to the one that was currently going.. so i thought i'd start one with someone who wasn't involved in that convo, but when i looked each of my friends, all that was going through my head was what i looked at.. like i would look at my friend Gary and my thoughts would be: 'Gary, what do i know about Gary, what can i say to Gary..' and i couldn't remember anything about him. Then i would look away all frustrated then would just think 'coke can' 'ash tray' or whatever i looked at. I then realise i didn't know myself, or anyone around me.. but at the same time i knew i knew them..

My friend then looked at me, realised i wasn't right and asked if i wanted to sit outside.. I replied.. not outside.. and got up and went into the conservatry to lay down. He came out with me and i remember sayin: I.. feel.. really.. not.. right.. like 1 word at a time was all my brain was capable of doing. I thought at that point who i am had been destroyed, i had pushed myself too far and i wasn't comin back. My friend then said: you know its only the pot you'll be normal again soon.. to which i said: nah.. different.. i.. don't know.. myself.. At this point i realised it was takin me so long to get my words out because my brain would VERY quickly run through every possible word (for example: ye, yes, ya, yep" and i didn't know which 1 was me. When forming sentences your personality obviously brings up the words you would use, and the way in which it is said.. but i had nothin. To try and explain better.. for the sentence: I don't feel good, my brain would think of every way of saying it, but not fully.. like it would come up with: not good, bad, feel, not good, not right, don't.. at the time i came out with "I feel really not right".. I would normally say: "I don't feel right".. Get it?

Anyway very shortly after, much thanks to my friend, i started to speak how i normally would, or atleast i felt comfortable with it. I went back in and sat there the rest of the night extremely stoned (still anti social, but thats standard)

The next couple of days were hell. I was constantly telling myself I'm not right. I can't communicate with my friends, let alone other people, like i used to. I was psychologically beating myself down into a kind of state of depression because i believed i wasn't comin back. Someone would say somethin.. then I'd think 'right, what can u reply to that.. say somethin' but i couldn't. Nothing i thought of felt like it was me. I also noticed i had an uncontrollable want for more bud.. like i was proper addicted to it or somethin.. I laid off the bud, and i slowly returned in a few days..


LSD:

Took 3 tabs and got more tripping than i had previously been. I went to a "party" that turned out to be a socially challeneged girls version of a party while her dad was still in. The whole night i sat there not feeling too bad but really antisocial and wanting to feel better. It gets to home time and im walkin home with a boy i grew up with and my girlfriend of the time. The whole way i was still not talkin much and the guy i grew up with was havin a little debate type argument thing with my girlfriend (was all good).. This guy used to abuse pills more than anyone i've ever known (he went on holiday and dropped 55 pills over 24 hours and spent a week retarded.. he used to go out and pop em like sweets to the point he was sittin there in his own world talkin to himself every friday and saturday for years).. At the end of my journey i remember him saying something like: you shouldnt do them too much cos the bad shit starts kickin in, like depression and stuff.. I then went home where my gf quickly fell asleep.. I tried.. In my head i was going over me and everyone i care about and coming up with reasons as to why they're crazy and need help, then it would come back to me and i would realise that i was crazy and needed help.. this went on for a couple of hours untill i went downstairs and calmed myself down with Ice Age

Next time i heard anything about that friend of mine was when i was again on LSD and found out he was in a car accident and was in a coma with definate brain damage. The decision to turn off the life support was made a week later due to the extent of the brain damage.

With LSD I've found being by youself (particularly if everyone is asleep, or u are trying to sleep and cant) can make LSD horrible.

Salvia:

Dno what happened but when i come back to the real world i had a sense of impending doom and like i was about to go into a traumatic 24 hours LSA trip (had eaten some seeds that luckily didnt work)..

I'm tired *yawn*.. will post my very mild amphetamine psychosis experience up later if anyone of u requests it

 

[Demonslayer]

I can never say I have had a bad trip. I have had terrible and difficult experiences, but I always walked away knowing more about myself. Bad trips happen for a reason, and I always try and figure out that reason. There are no bad trips, only learning experiences.

I'm in total agreement with you on that.
I've never had a bad experience with shrooms or acid, though I have had at least 20-30 trips over a period of 19 years. I've had some uncomfortable experiences but that was because my girlfreind insisted on discussing our emotional relationship while I was tripping and she was only stoned.
She also had shrooms (about five times more than I did) but I suspect she has really "strong" control over her mind. Maybe the antidepressants she was using stopped the shrooms from working. 4 grams of liberty caps and tropicalis should send any normal person over the edge, specially with 4-5 grams of weed on top of that.

A specific salviatrip scared the shit out of me, but I still can't describe it as a bad trip. I was shown things I can't intergrate into my world veiw while still retaining my sanity. I can't say that what I was shown is not true (which is the scary part), but it's implications are not useful or healthy for functioning as a human being.
The video on youtube called "Salvia trip from hell" is a accurate description of this trip, and the fact that others have had the exact same salvia trip scares the shit out of me. How is that possible? Who are these salvia-gnomes?

I generally experience more paranoia on weed than shrooms or LSD. If I smoke too much I usually trip, but the trip is chaotic and a bit psychelogically uncomfortable. Cannabis trips aren't as beutiful as shroom trips either.

 

[Demonslayer]

I have never truly had a "bad" trip but I've had one scary one on a quarter of mushrooms.

Pretty much my face melted morphed and contorted into a deamon while at the same time I had the sensation that i was falling through the cabinet i was leaning on into hell. I jumped off the cabinet and went to a new setting for a few minutes and I was good.

Also on acid when I looked in the mirror it looked like all the blood vessels were popping out of my face and I kind of just stared and said "Woah"
Basically my face was rotting

I think people kinda like bragging about what bad trip they had. I guess they feel like bad-ass-motherfuckers for trying something so scary.
"Jeez dude, I almost shit myself on shrooms, worms were crawling out of my skin and Satan was laughing at me from underneath the wallpaper. I almost jumped of the roof to get away from that giant meat eating rabbit that was chasing me"

Seeing your face rot and stuff dosn't really count as a bad trip.
Scary ain't the same as bad. I totally agree with the idea that there is no such thing as a bad trip.

Looking into a mirror while tripping isn't really a good idea if you don't understand how acid and shrooms distort visual processing. Patterns are intensified and details are added along with fraktal illusions. This makes the bone structure of the face seem more pronounced, like a demons face. The attention to detail makes you notice every pore and blood vessel in your skin and the loose flakes of skin that you shed all day. The ever-changing fraktal "noise" overlayed on the visual input makes it look like the skin is slowly sliding off your face. If you look closely you can even see small spiney fraktal worms crawling from one pore to another.
This is not something to be scared of, this is just normal visual distortion caused by the shrooms/acid.

The same effects can be seen if you wach a movie. In fact, war movies are my favorite trip past-time. It really hits you like you've never seen a war movie before. In "The thin red line" they all looked like living dead, walking around like skeletons with pale grey skin draped over their bones, when a bullet hit someones head it looked like bloody maggots spurting everywere.

The most intense trips I have are when I lie in the dark and just pay attention to what my own mind is showing me. Even a mild dose of shrooms can be intense when you block out distractions. There are time when it feels like my heart is being ripped out of my chest, but hey, I don't do shrooms to experience Teletubby land.

Psychedelics are not escape drugs, they are contact drugs. If you try to use them to escape from yourself they will bite you in the ass. Getting in contact with your subconsious is mindblowing, it can be scary, it can be beutiful, but it is always useful if you treat the experience as the truth and not as entertainment.

 

[adrian89987]

Seeing your face rot and stuff dosn't really count as a bad trip.
Scary ain't the same as bad. I totally agree with the idea that there is no such thing as a bad trip.

What about this? One time I ate way too much, went to the wrong kind of concert and completely blacked out, come to being injected with haldol in order to calm me down, apprently I went into psychosis and was just running around the concert grabbing at people's faces screaming about how "I'm Fine" in between making extremely weird noises and fighting off anybody that tried to hold me down including the 6 paramedics that were called to the scene by my brother.

I consider that as a bad trip. True story.

First thing I remember after the tranquilizer was a paramedic saying "wooo you musta been tripping HAARD"

 

[ChampagneSupernova]

I've never had a bad trip as some of the people in this thread. Every single one of my trips were difficult (save a few on 2c-i). Most were very difficult. Never were they difficult from something I saw. I saw some pretty crazy visuals, as I'm sure everyone here has. They were always just difficult from the state of mind as well as the anxiety that I seem to have no lack in. I have tried a few times to trip on a small dose of benzos. Just enough to kill the anxiety. But I found them to be dull. The anxiety, I realized made my trips.

 

[Demonslayer]

What about this? One time I ate way too much, went to the wrong kind of concert and completely blacked out, come to being injected with haldol in order to calm me down, apprently I went into psychosis and was just running around the concert grabbing at people's faces screaming about how "I'm Fine" in between making extremely weird noises and fighting off anybody that tried to hold me down including the 6 paramedics that were called to the scene by my brother.

I consider that as a bad trip. True story.

First thing I remember after the tranquilizer was a paramedic saying "wooo you musta been tripping HAARD"

Sorry, can't comment on black-outs since I have no personal experience with blacking out. Since you blacked out you can not describe anything of the trip. I'm sure it was a difficult experience since your brain has blocked out the memory of it.
The administering of Haldol may have been more due to your outward "appearence" than due to what you were experiencing in your mind. Paramedics would have given you Haldol even if you were babbling about how happy and blissful you were. If you act like a spaced out acid head, you will be treated as such by "sober" people even if you are having the time of your life.

I was making some extremely weird noises after eating amanita mushrooms, but since I was among friends, I was treated as someone in a psychedelic state, not as someone suffering from psychosis and in need of medical help.

Ever stop to think that the intervention of concerned citizens and paramedics may have influenced your assesment of the episode? You don't know anything about the trip since you blacked out, right?

First of all, you took way too much in a setting you had no control over. Second, you repress the memory because you freaked out from fear for something you don't know enough about.

Conclusion: Don't fuck with stuff you don't understand, do some research before you stuff something in your mouth or pipe.
Start experimenting with exploring your own mind. There are NO psychedelic substances that produce visions or feelings in you. These visions and feelings that you experience come from your own brain/subconcious. There are no fraktals or monsters in a mushroom. The mushroom only opens the door to your mind. What you see in there is who you are! Deal with it or leave it alone!

When you understand it, respect it's limitations, it's possibilities and how to use it responibly. You are not fucking with a mushroom or a synthetic substance, you are fucking with your mind. What you see or experience on a trip is what is in your mind every day, but you can't "see" it cause you are not in tune with yourself.
If you want to trip high doses you must be ready to look yourself in the eye, and you can't fucking lie to yourself. You can't hide from yourself and this is why some people feel that a trip is way too overwelming, full of angst, feelings of inferiority, fear, insecurity, and freaks them out cause they can't handle what is revield by the mushroom.
My theory is that if you have a "bad trip", there is something "in there" that you ought to face up to. Running from it is just like lying to yourself. It's in there, deal with it and become a better person. There ain't no witnesses to your experience exept yourself. You have nothing to loose, you ain't gonna die or something like that!

My theory is that if you have several bad trips, you have two choices: 1. Stop tripping and let these problems stay burried. 2. Deal with your problems so that they don't fuck up your life.

Sorry to give it to you so blatantly, but the truth is best if you say it straight out to someones face.

Fucking hell man, I've dealt with some really shitty feelings on many a trip, but I've allways come out of it a better person. When your tripping, it's just you and yourself, use this time for something useful. You can run from responibilities, obligations, your past, your parents, the law, but you can't run from yourself. The things that feel shitty and difficult during a trip, are exactly the things you should confront. It's not like your gonna die from the experience! (Though the feeling of dying is quite real during ego-death.)
A psychosis is usually a result of trying to deny your feelings, reality or your past. Deny it, and it's gonna haunt you 'til you deal with it.
As I've said before: Psychedelics are'nt escape drugs, they are contact drugs. You can use them to obtain deeper contact with someone or something else (they are the same thing anyway), but you can't embrace psychedelics completley before you come in contact with yourself.

Shit man, if it didn't touch your heart in a primitive and powerful way, what the fuck was the point of doing psychedelics? Shrooms and acid are supposed to be amazing, mind blowing, life changing and worth something. It's just the rest of society that thinks that psychedelics are just a false chemically induced state. We who understand them see them as the powerful tools they are. They are meant to shatter your concepts of reality and yourself. If you are just doing shrooms and acid for kicks or the amazing visuals, or even the contact aspect of tripping with other people, you are missing the point. This is the door to your mind, not a silly rollercoaster ride.

 

[ControlDenied]

Bad = unpleasant; it's a subjective thing - a psychotic break would generally be considered by most people to fulfil the parameters for a "bad trip".

thanks zoph. exactly the point - we're not talking about a bad trip as in a bad movie, but literally, a fucking BAD trip. it doesnt seem to happen to many people at all - thus some doubt its existence - because to have a psychotic break is quite an event! only those who have a genetic predilection towards mental illness will know this fear of a bad trip.

nuff said really!

 

[adrian89987]

Sorry, can't comment on black-outs since I have no personal experience with blacking out. Since you blacked out you can not describe anything of the trip. I'm sure it was a difficult experience since your brain has blocked out the memory of it.

The whole point of my comment was to say that there was absolutely nothing beneficial gained from the trip. The only result of the trip was bad outcome. In other words a bad trip. The only lesson learned was to pay more attention to set and setting, I wasn't arguing with anything else you said.

 

[aquabat]

I think people kinda like bragging about what bad trip they had. I guess they feel like bad-ass-motherfuckers for trying something so scary.
"Jeez dude, I almost shit myself on shrooms, worms were crawling out of my skin and Satan was laughing at me from underneath the wallpaper. I almost jumped of the roof to get away from that giant meat eating rabbit that was chasing me"

Seeing your face rot and stuff dosn't really count as a bad trip.
Scary ain't the same as bad. I totally agree with the idea that there is no such thing as a bad trip.

Looking into a mirror while tripping isn't really a good idea if you don't understand how acid and shrooms distort visual processing. Patterns are intensified and details are added along with fraktal illusions. This makes the bone structure of the face seem more pronounced, like a demons face. The attention to detail makes you notice every pore and blood vessel in your skin and the loose flakes of skin that you shed all day. The ever-changing fraktal "noise" overlayed on the visual input makes it look like the skin is slowly sliding off your face. If you look closely you can even see small spiney fraktal worms crawling from one pore to another.
This is not something to be scared of, this is just normal visual distortion caused by the shrooms/acid.

The same effects can be seen if you wach a movie. In fact, war movies are my favorite trip past-time. It really hits you like you've never seen a war movie before. In "The thin red line" they all looked like living dead, walking around like skeletons with pale grey skin draped over their bones, when a bullet hit someones head it looked like bloody maggots spurting everywere.

The most intense trips I have are when I lie in the dark and just pay attention to what my own mind is showing me. Even a mild dose of shrooms can be intense when you block out distractions. There are time when it feels like my heart is being ripped out of my chest, but hey, I don't do shrooms to experience Teletubby land.

Psychedelics are not escape drugs, they are contact drugs. If you try to use them to escape from yourself they will bite you in the ass. Getting in contact with your subconsious is mindblowing, it can be scary, it can be beutiful, but it is always useful if you treat the experience as the truth and not as entertainment.

No offense but, I don't like your attitude towards this. Writing out about my trip was very hard for me to do, and was hard to let ago. I hurt people close to me, and luckily nothing really bad happened. It was cool and I didn't want to brag about it a single bit.

there are BAD trips, and just cause you want the psychedelics to be completely awesome and have no bad wrap doesn't change the fact that BAD trips occur, and you can not learn personal lesson through all of them so there is nothing good about it and it is bad. You just haven't had a BAD trip yet, you may have seen scary things or fucked up shit, but the second you really have a bad trip I promise your mind will be forever changed.

 

[Demonslayer]

No offense but, I don't like your attitude towards this. Writing out about my trip was very hard for me to do, and was hard to let ago. I hurt people close to me, and luckily nothing really bad happened. It was cool and I didn't want to brag about it a single bit.

there are BAD trips, and just cause you want the psychedelics to be completely awesome and have no bad wrap doesn't change the fact that BAD trips occur, and you can not learn personal lesson through all of them so there is nothing good about it and it is bad. You just haven't had a BAD trip yet, you may have seen scary things or fucked up shit, but the second you really have a bad trip I promise your mind will be forever changed.

Sorry that you don't like my attitude. Should I refrain from saying what I mean about this subject cause it may hurt your feelings?
The truth often hurts. Life is not about avoiding bad feelings.

There are bad sides to psychedelics. People use them without regard for their power, and without understanding that things can go wrong if you do stupid things.
Having a bad trip does at least teach you that you are not ready for this or that you should be more careful. If you keep having bad trips then there are two choices. Keep tripping and deal with your shit, or leave it alone.

You seem to think that everybody will have a bad trip if they trip long enough. Were do these bad trips come from? They come from your own mind, not from a mushroom. So if I don't have any fucked up shit burried in my subconsious, where would this bad trip come from?

 

[aquabat]

A bad trip can simply come from an unexpected uninvited change in setting. No not everyone will have a bad trip at some point, but things happen that people can not control.

Also, I never even kind of implied they came from mushrooms. Just saying.

Also, I don't care about your attitude about whether or not they exist, it the saying people are bragging about it part, and I will reiterate, I was certainly not bragging.

 

[Demonslayer]

The whole point of my comment was to say that there was absolutely nothing beneficial gained from the trip. The only result of the trip was bad outcome. In other words a bad trip. The only lesson learned was to pay more attention to set and setting, I wasn't arguing with anything else you said.

There seems to be two definitions of a bad trip then.

 

[Demonslayer]

A bad trip can simply come from an unexpected uninvited change in setting. No not everyone will have a bad trip at some point, but things happen that people can not control.

Also, I never even kind of implied they came from mushrooms. Just saying.

Also, I don't care about your attitude about whether or not they exist, it the saying people are bragging about it part, and I will reiterate, I was certainly not bragging.

I've heard enough people brag about stuff like that, but of coarse, not everyone is a wannabe tough guy.

If a change in setting will send you into a state you can't deal with, you should consider doing lower doses.

 

[aquabat]

Did you read? It wasn't like a normal change. People that really didn't want us tripping showed up unexpected right about when I started peaking on 3.5g's of some really good and fresh shrooms. I actually waited around while he dried them.

Also, I plan to take a low does of acid next, one hit and see how it goes. I have my own apartment now so only people I want over will be able to come over.

 

[Demonslayer]

Did you read? It wasn't like a normal change. People that really didn't want us tripping showed up unexpected right about when I started peaking on 3.5g's of some really good and fresh shrooms. I actually waited around while he dried them.

Also, I plan to take a low does of acid next, one hit and see how it goes. I have my own apartment now so only people I want over will be able to come over.

You can snap right out of a trip with a little experience if the situation requires it. You just have to believe it's possible. It's your brain, you're in control, not the drug.
How come I can snap right out of a powerful shroom or LSD trip and talk normally to straight people?
If you can't do this then you must plan a trip a lot better than you did that time. How about taking a trip to the forrest with a tent and some good friends? The night sky is really awesome on a trip and no-one will come along to disturb you. Trip somewere you are in complete control of your surroundings. I usually trip alone to minimize any negative influence from other people.
If you have anti-drug people barging in on your trip, you obviously have not guarded yourself enough against things that will freak you out.

3.5 grams of cubensis should be managable in most settings if you know what you are doing.

 

[aquabat]

(Sry I'm going to stan up for myself just for a second)

My friends girl said she was going out of town and at the last moment changed her plan and didn't tell anyone. I was visiting friends and didn't know anywhere but there apartment.

 

[Gldm]

You can snap right out of a trip with a little experience if the situation requires it. You just have to believe it's possible. It's your brain, you're in control, not the drug.
How come I can snap right out of a powerful shroom or LSD trip and talk normally to straight people?
If you can't do this then you must plan a trip a lot better than you did that time. How about taking a trip to the forrest with a tent and some good friends? The night sky is really awesome on a trip and no-one will come along to disturb you. Trip somewere you are in complete control of your surroundings. I usually trip alone to minimize any negative influence from other people.
If you have anti-drug people barging in on your trip, you obviously have not guarded yourself enough against things that will freak you out.

3.5 grams of cubensis should be managable in most settings if you know what you are doing.

The night sky was the trigger that made mine go really REALLY bad.