Misc Baclofen is garbage. Don’t ever get it!

[Fiori di Bella]

I told you it would make you sleepy. If you gotta get stuff done, unless you’ve got stimulants to counter it, you’re probably gonna have to wait it out.

I just emptied another Vyvanse into my sparkling water and I’m going to sip on it. I don’t want to double my dose. I’ll drink 1/2 of the water and safe the other 1/2 for tomorrow.

 

[Keif' Richards]

I just emptied another Vyvanse into my sparkling water and I’m going to sip on it. I don’t want to double my dose. I’ll drink 1/2 of the water and safe the other 1/2 for tomorrow.

Hey bella, I would really recommend just riding out the symptoms of the Baclofen. Live to fight another day. I am not sure that I would recommend trying to counter it with stimulants. I dont want the Baclofen to wear off, leaving you awake all night from the controlled-release Amphetamines.

 

[Keif' Richards]

Yo Keif, is there any chance you can post a list of muscle relaxers in order of effectiveness? Is soma the best?

I just saw this so sorry for the delay. I know this probably doesn't make things easier, but we have to define the term "effective" and what that means to you. If we are talking about "relief", the Carisoprodol is way more likely to leave you in a more relaxed, relieved state owning to its tranquilizing properties. Meprobamate was an extremely popular drug in its day. I would say less than 2% of people I talk to about this drug were informed or otherwise were aware of the fact that its basically just a strong sedative like a Barbiturate.

As for the remaining two that we have been discussing today, that is going to really vary from person to person. You've gotta give it the old college try and evaluate the results.

There are plenty of other drugs that relax the muscles as a side-effect, but off the top of my head, these are the only three drugs that I'm actually familiar with.

 

[Shant]

Hey bella, I would really recommend just riding out the symptoms of the Baclofen. Live to fight another day. I am not sure that I would recommend trying to counter it with stimulants. I dont want the Baclofen to wear off, leaving you awake all night from the controlled-release Amphetamines.

It’s Flexeril she ended up taking. And I agree, ride it out. Stop sipping on your vyvance!

 

[Shant]

I just saw this so sorry for the delay. I know this probably doesn't make things easier, but we have to define the term "effective" and what that means to you. If we are talking about "relief", the Carisoprodol is way more likely to leave you in a more relaxed, relieved state owning to its tranquilizing properties. Meprobamate was an extremely popular drug in its day. I would say less than 2% of people I talk to about this drug were informed or otherwise were aware of the fact that its basically just a strong sedative like a Barbiturate.

As for the remaining two that we have been discussing today, that is going to really vary from person to person. You've gotta give it the old college try and evaluate the results.

There are plenty of other drugs that relax the muscles as a side-effect, but off the top of my head, these are the only three drugs that I'm actually familiar with.

Never heard of Roboxin?

 

[Shant]

I just emptied another Vyvanse into my sparkling water and I’m going to sip on it. I don’t want to double my dose. I’ll drink 1/2 of the water and safe the other 1/2 for tomorrow.

Take a nice little nap, you’ll wake up in a couple hours and be refreshed and you can still get your shot done.

 

[Keif' Richards]

Oh yea, Methocarbamol (Robaxin). Sadly, I'm not a complete pharmacist. I only know about the feel-good stuff. That is why Walgreens wont hire me. I used that quote about "the feel-good stuff" in my interview thinking they would appreciate my candor and honesty.

I really dont know a lot about this particular drug man. It appears to be non-psychoactive, non-addictive etc. It seems that it is prescribed for all of the same indications as Cyclobenzaprine. That's unfortunately all I know but I'm gonna read up on it.

 

[Shant]

Thanks dude.

 

[xivixive]

you couldn't pay me to take flexeril - instant full body RLS hell as soon as it kicks in.

160mg baclofen though and i will sleep 12hrs straight, and doze off for the majority of the next day. i have 20mg pills so thats what 8 would be. however that would be too much and would make me puke and give me a headache, ive been there. 160mg would be too much for me... 80mg usually does the 12hr sleep trick. ive used them while in opiate wd though and they don't do much.. until they do too much and cause negative effects.

 

[Keif' Richards]

Interesting. I was only half-joking when I said my expertise was in psychoactive drugs. I dont know a hell of a lot about these drugs. Any drug that even slightly contributes to RLS/Akathisia would be contraindicated for withdrawal from pretty much anything.

I'd like to hear from other people who have used this stuff. It might help prevent other folks from making a bad decision.

 

[negrogesic]

Never heard of Roboxin?

Methocarbamol is no fun, all it did was make me a bit drowsy. It has zero recreational potential unfortunately.

 

[Xorkoth]

It doesn’t do shit. I took 8 of em last night. All that did was make my hands twitchy. Like if I was holding a cup of coffee I’d be liable to drop it if my hands twitched. Its like your hands fall asleep for a split second then wake right back up. The damn stuff is useless.

Flexeril doesn't produce any sort of high whatsoever, though it is good for getting sleepy and feeling relaxed physically. Baclofen is a GABA-B agonist and does have central nervous system effects and is pretty decent at helping alleviate the withdrawal symptoms of some drugs. You're probably quite insensitive to it, I have read reports of people needing like 200mg for strong effect, whereas for me, 40mg was verging on too much. I have used baclofen to substitute for phenibut and also for GHB and get off of them, successfully.

 

[Kallisti23]

I might be a bit of an outlier here, but I have always quite enjoyed baclofen. Especially when combined with even a small amount of a benzodiazepine (diazepam in particular), I find that it produces a much more rounded full body relaxation. I have never bothered going higher than 30 - 40mg with it, but I know someone who had seizures from abusing it in large doses (admittedly he was abusing a lot of other things at the same time too, so the bac may not have been fully to blame). Even without a benzo I find 30mg chills me out pretty nicely, not a high per se, just relaxed. I may be strange in terms of gabapentoids though since Pregabalin is the only one that I really don't enjoy and that seems to be most people's favourite. Pregab just made me feel off and actually a bit angsty. I don't find baclofen massively recreational, but I feel that it certainly has it's uses...

 

[Kallisti23]

Well there you go. I was kicking opiates. Bah what a waste. Is there anything better than soma? What would be 2nd best?

I believe that Gabapentin is supposed to be one of the best Gabapentoids for opiate withdrawal. I haven't used them for that purpose myself, but a mate of mine used it while trying to kick heroin and said it helped greatly (especially with RLS).

Edit: Just realised that sleep is your main issue, not sure if gabapentin is great for that. Probably need to go with a strong benzo on top if that's your main concern.

 

[Shant]

Yeah the Benzos are a bitch to get right now. 90% of the bars on the street are fake. Some even have fentanyl in them (wtf). Lol there was a time I’d pay extra for those.

My issue is sleep deprivation due to kicking opiate agonists. Constantly going on and off suboxone. It’s 3:30 am as I type this. I’ve got gabapentin and it definitely helps. So does clonidine. I’m looking for a good muscle relaxer to add to the cocktail. It’s sounding to me like, for my purposes, soma’s the one to go with. We’ll see if my doc goes for it.

It’s funny. I dont even feel any real withdrawal symptoms (last use of heroin was yesterday around noon. Smoked literally like .15G. I bet I could induct safely right now, but I’d rather get some sleep and make damn sure. Would like to take my gabapentin/clonidine/weed vape combo now but my BP is 96/62 (pulse 68) and I’m thinking that’s a bit low to try it. Maybe smoking some weed will get it up a bit then I’ll take my cocktail. Hell maybe I’ll do 40mg of baclofen too for the fuck of it. Anybody? Is my current vitals safe for the cocktail mentioned above?

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Just to reiterate: a really high dose of Baclofen WILL FORCE YOU (like, you can't resist it) to sleep and it will be deep enough that people shouting at or shaking you may not work. I've twice had paramedics called on me, and even gotten a moderate GCS score.

 

[Xorkoth]

you couldn't pay me to take flexeril - instant full body RLS hell as soon as it kicks in.

160mg baclofen though and i will sleep 12hrs straight, and doze off for the majority of the next day. i have 20mg pills so thats what 8 would be. however that would be too much and would make me puke and give me a headache, ive been there. 160mg would be too much for me... 80mg usually does the 12hr sleep trick. ive used them while in opiate wd though and they don't do much.. until they do too much and cause negative effects.

Whaaaa? Really? Never heard of this reaction. For me, flexeril makes me feel so relaxed, and sleepy. It will put me to sleep no matter what, and it's a nice sleep, with a comfy body feel. Baclofen, on the other hand, even at 40mg, makes my insides feel like they're burning, with a lot of discomfort and something verging on RLS, but not quite. Nasty feeling.

 

[mrshl5000]

Just to reiterate: a really high dose of Baclofen WILL FORCE YOU (like, you can't resist it) to sleep and it will be deep enough that people shouting at or shaking you may not work. I've twice had paramedics called on me, and even gotten a moderate GCS score.

I too think baclofen is trash. As useless as tramadol, Flexeril, and Soma.
Not that I was asked, but have taken all mentioned enough to have formed an opinion.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

I get a paradoxical reaction to Flexeril, it makes me hyperactive.
Cyclobenzaprine can also cause serotonin syndrome.

As far as baclofen goes, it causes central sleep apnea in some people, which is the horrible feeling of falling and gasping just as you fall asleep. I can't take baclofen because it causes central sleep apnea in me.

Same to Soma/Carisoprodol, but worse. I took ONE and got the most insane, uncontrollable rage. Like I smashed up a couple of tables to pieces (and I weigh like 110lbs) and was screaming. It takes a lot to bother me usually and it was terrifyingly out of character.

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

eh flexeril gave me wierd anti-deprresant zaps and baclofen would be even worse I imagine. Go for soma for your muscles