[B.D.M. #3:] - Is marijuana the drug that's harmed you the most?
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Adrenochrome
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subdefy said:
That's not the type of problems i'm talkin about, i was sayin about like problems in your life not problems with ur high
HeadyNuggets
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Twip, the question was is marijuana the drug that has harmed you the most. I do not deny that marijuana can cause some degree of physical harm however this harm comes mostly from inhaling smoke. If you were to eat ganja food this could be circumvented and physical harm would be negligable.
The second way in which people find ganja harmful is behavioural and cognitive. Lack of motivation, short term memory problems, etc. These symptoms generally occur when you use marijuana on a multi-daily basis. Moderation would then be the answer in reducing these side effects if one finds them having a negative impact on your life.
Finally for those people who just dont enjoy the effects of cannabis (makes them paranoid, antisocial, what have you) it may be beneficial to try and ingest only premium grade ganja, as good herb usually does not exhibit these qualities. If this fails then maybe ganja just isnt for you.
And like Rosclot said, try doing any other drug everyday and let us know what the real harmful ones are.
The second way in which people find ganja harmful is behavioural and cognitive. Lack of motivation, short term memory problems, etc. These symptoms generally occur when you use marijuana on a multi-daily basis. Moderation would then be the answer in reducing these side effects if one finds them having a negative impact on your life.
Finally for those people who just dont enjoy the effects of cannabis (makes them paranoid, antisocial, what have you) it may be beneficial to try and ingest only premium grade ganja, as good herb usually does not exhibit these qualities. If this fails then maybe ganja just isnt for you.
And like Rosclot said, try doing any other drug everyday and let us know what the real harmful ones are.
gugglebum
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s0nic said:
Ditto!
I was sure I'd be smoking for the rest of my life ...
And now I'd be happy as hell to have a THC-antagonist.
Rosclot said:
Yes, but it just turns out to be so that of all the drugs I've tried, I don't do any of them every day.
Except for weed. Doesn't that say something about it?
I've done (supposedly) Uber-addictive drugs ... and the only one I got somewhat addicted to was weed. Oh, who the hell am I kidding, smoking 6 joints everyday isn't somewhat addicted, it's a fullscale addiction.
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Rosclot said:
Yes and no. I function a lot better as an alcoholic than I do as a pothead, but it does more physical damage to drink.
--- G.
qwe
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weed is hell on my HPPD (ever since i got it from LSA)
other htan that, weed has been benign to me except when i smoke it too much or not with the right mindset (if i use it moderatly and in good settings, its great to me)
other htan that, weed has been benign to me except when i smoke it too much or not with the right mindset (if i use it moderatly and in good settings, its great to me)
qwe
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^i don't fit the diagnostic criteria because of that and the fact that it isn't extreme enough to inhibit my life (i can still do everything fine)
when i said HPPD, i meant visual and auditory and body(pressure/motion) distortions that aren't very comfortable... basicly "mild HPPD" which a lot of people seem to get.. except when i see a tree it's like i'm looking at something straight from a bugs bunny cartoon (plus a plastic affect)
i'm trying to enjoy it instead of get anxiety from it, but its not easy
when i said HPPD, i meant visual and auditory and body(pressure/motion) distortions that aren't very comfortable... basicly "mild HPPD" which a lot of people seem to get.. except when i see a tree it's like i'm looking at something straight from a bugs bunny cartoon (plus a plastic affect)
i'm trying to enjoy it instead of get anxiety from it, but its not easy
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I have not had any signs of damage as far as coughing up shit and all that, even though I do smoke weed quite a bit. I think weed probably is the drug that has harmed me most, but mainly because it's the drug I always use.
sonic
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As I should have stated in my original post.. I DISAGREE that marijuana is one of the most harmful drugs. It's definately not as bad as amphetamines, cocaine, and a several other drugs in my opinion.
On the other hand, marijuana has definately harmed me, and since I've done a lot more of it than I have of any other drug, it has probably harmed me the most out of anything.
For the people who disagree that marijuana is harmful and that they can continue to smoke as much as they want for the rest of their lives, I guess they'll just have to wait and see what happens. There's no point in trying to convince them otherwise, they'll just have to find out on their own. Some people might be able to be a successful pothead their whole life, but I'll bet most of them won't be able to.
As I said, I used to think pot was the greatest drug in the world for the first few years I started smoking it. I see my younger self in all of these kids trying to stand up for the drug. Sure.. pot is probably less harmful than alcohol, it should be legalized and everything, but dont kid yourself into thinking it's completely harmless. If you can use in moderation that's a different story. Now that I'm able to use in moderation I love to get high once in a while, but I wouldnt want to smoke more than a few times a month.
On the other hand, marijuana has definately harmed me, and since I've done a lot more of it than I have of any other drug, it has probably harmed me the most out of anything.
For the people who disagree that marijuana is harmful and that they can continue to smoke as much as they want for the rest of their lives, I guess they'll just have to wait and see what happens. There's no point in trying to convince them otherwise, they'll just have to find out on their own. Some people might be able to be a successful pothead their whole life, but I'll bet most of them won't be able to.
As I said, I used to think pot was the greatest drug in the world for the first few years I started smoking it. I see my younger self in all of these kids trying to stand up for the drug. Sure.. pot is probably less harmful than alcohol, it should be legalized and everything, but dont kid yourself into thinking it's completely harmless. If you can use in moderation that's a different story. Now that I'm able to use in moderation I love to get high once in a while, but I wouldnt want to smoke more than a few times a month.
gugglebum
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"For the people who disagree that marijuana is harmful and that they can continue to smoke as much as they want for the rest of their lives, I guess they'll just have to wait and see what happens. There's no point in trying to convince them otherwise, they'll just have to find out on their own. Some people might be able to be a successful pothead their whole life, but I'll bet most of them won't be able to."
Yes, I too was sure marijuana was harmless, I was sure I'd be smoking for the rest of my life, etc. etc.
And then one day you realise how long you've been smoking everyday and decide to quit.
And to all those people saying MODERATION IS THE KEY:
Yes, I fucking now it is. Of course it is. If someone smoke ONE joint every Friday+Saturday night for the rest of their life they probably wouldn't have any problems.
It's just too bad that there's such few people that keep it to weekend use only ... or at least here in Spain, where hash costs like 5 euros for 5-6 joints.
Yes, I too was sure marijuana was harmless, I was sure I'd be smoking for the rest of my life, etc. etc.
And then one day you realise how long you've been smoking everyday and decide to quit.
And to all those people saying MODERATION IS THE KEY:
Yes, I fucking now it is. Of course it is. If someone smoke ONE joint every Friday+Saturday night for the rest of their life they probably wouldn't have any problems.
It's just too bad that there's such few people that keep it to weekend use only ... or at least here in Spain, where hash costs like 5 euros for 5-6 joints.
Adrenochrome
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gugglebum said:
So basically alll I was saying before when i said moderation was key is basically that it's all an issue of self control, and knowing how to moderate, if you didn't know how to moderate it's not the drugs fault, it's your fault, it's no one else's fault but yours, so stop blaming the drug.
The drug did not hold a gun to your head and make you smoke it everyday.
And another thing, why do you have such a retarded icon?? And why do you never use the quote options...
gugglebum
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Yes, I know it is.
But strangely enough, I never got into the habit of doing cocaine everyday and I DID GET INTO THE HABIT OF SMOKING MARIJUANA EVERY DAY.
Does that say something about the drug? I wouldn't fucking think twice about doing acid every day ... but I did with weed.
So you have self-control? Wow! Great. Congratulations, that's really great for you. But I don't fucking care, and this wasn't even the question here.
(BTW: You talk about how much self-control you have, yet I've read your posts and I've read that you smoke marijuana every day... so much for self-control)
"So basically alll I was saying before when i said moderation was key is basically that it's all an issue of self control, and knowing how to moderate, if you didn't know how to moderate it's not the drugs fault, it's your fault, it's no one else's fault but yours, so stop blaming the drug."
Wow, that's a long sentence. You should consider laying off the weed for a while so you can have a chance at forming normal sentences!
"And another thing, why do you have such a retarded icon??"
Because I find it funny, and because it sure beats the hell out of your (non-existent) AVATAR. Yes, it's called avatar, not icon. Those icons you talk about are on your desktop.
HA!
"And why do you never use the quote options..."
Quote options? Options? As far I as know, there's only one OPTION. No options ... but still:
I've used those "quote options" TWICE IN THIS FUCKING THREAD already ... does it look to you as if I don't use those options?
Once again:
HA!
Maybe all that weed your smoking is making you retarded!
"OOOOOH! MOMMY! HE INSULTED MY DANK ASS BUDZ!!! IT'S NOT FAIR! WHY CAN HE SAY WEED IS NOT GOOD! BUUUUUUUUUAAAAAHHHHH!" *cries*
Related reading:
"I smoke dank, and I smoke such large hits but i will only smoke greens, so i use a hitter that is a 5 chamber rotater, so every time i hit it i take full advantage of greens, i get blitz nigga"
^^^^^ posted by him not long ago.
Oh, so we got another dumbass weed elitist? GREAT! I'm sure you only smoke the dankest of the dank. Woohooo! You get it straight from the hardest thug of a dealer the world has ever seen, right? I bet.
EVEN FUNNIER RELATED READING:
"i rap about gangster shit becuase it's funny as fuck and I am not for violence at all in real life but sum shit is so funny in words, I am not serious when i gangsta freestyle but my shit is dope out da game. I even do it on AIM, forexample I just freestyled this to my homeboy on AIM:
yo i'm white so they call me ghoast
when i'm high i like to rap the most
i've never repped on ither coast
if i eat a meal it's gonna be a roast
if u mess with me you'll go like toast
toast that went burnt
so tell me what u've learnt"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Hilarious. Great stuff there. Shakespeare would be jealous.
So, you ADMIT that you feel better about your worthless wimpy little whiteboy self by saying "funny words" about violence? You admit you'd get the shit kicked out of you by your own grandmother but you feel better about it if you freestyle violent shit (not forgetting: on AOL) about it?
Oh Jesus.
You have got to be the dumbest motherfucking BlueLighter ever.
"i gangsta freestyle but my shit is dope out da game"
You can't be fucking serious about this ...
"if i eat a meal it's gonna be a roast
if u mess with me you'll go like toast
toast that went burnt"
INSPIRATIONAL!
That's it, I'm done humiliating you. Now go smoke your DANK ASS BUDZ and freestyle "dope outa da game" shit:
My name is Matt
People say I'm fat
But I don't give a fuck where they're at
Cause I have a cat
And it sat
On the mat.
Ps. Could you tell me your age please? I'm really curious. Don't bother to reply if you don't include your age.
But strangely enough, I never got into the habit of doing cocaine everyday and I DID GET INTO THE HABIT OF SMOKING MARIJUANA EVERY DAY.
Does that say something about the drug? I wouldn't fucking think twice about doing acid every day ... but I did with weed.
So you have self-control? Wow! Great. Congratulations, that's really great for you. But I don't fucking care, and this wasn't even the question here.
(BTW: You talk about how much self-control you have, yet I've read your posts and I've read that you smoke marijuana every day... so much for self-control)
"So basically alll I was saying before when i said moderation was key is basically that it's all an issue of self control, and knowing how to moderate, if you didn't know how to moderate it's not the drugs fault, it's your fault, it's no one else's fault but yours, so stop blaming the drug."
Wow, that's a long sentence. You should consider laying off the weed for a while so you can have a chance at forming normal sentences!
"And another thing, why do you have such a retarded icon??"
Because I find it funny, and because it sure beats the hell out of your (non-existent) AVATAR. Yes, it's called avatar, not icon. Those icons you talk about are on your desktop.
HA!
"And why do you never use the quote options..."
Quote options? Options? As far I as know, there's only one OPTION. No options ... but still:
I've used those "quote options" TWICE IN THIS FUCKING THREAD already ... does it look to you as if I don't use those options?
Once again:
HA!
Maybe all that weed your smoking is making you retarded!
"OOOOOH! MOMMY! HE INSULTED MY DANK ASS BUDZ!!! IT'S NOT FAIR! WHY CAN HE SAY WEED IS NOT GOOD! BUUUUUUUUUAAAAAHHHHH!" *cries*
Related reading:
"I smoke dank, and I smoke such large hits but i will only smoke greens, so i use a hitter that is a 5 chamber rotater, so every time i hit it i take full advantage of greens, i get blitz nigga"
^^^^^ posted by him not long ago.
Oh, so we got another dumbass weed elitist? GREAT! I'm sure you only smoke the dankest of the dank. Woohooo! You get it straight from the hardest thug of a dealer the world has ever seen, right? I bet.
EVEN FUNNIER RELATED READING:
"i rap about gangster shit becuase it's funny as fuck and I am not for violence at all in real life but sum shit is so funny in words, I am not serious when i gangsta freestyle but my shit is dope out da game. I even do it on AIM, forexample I just freestyled this to my homeboy on AIM:
yo i'm white so they call me ghoast
when i'm high i like to rap the most
i've never repped on ither coast
if i eat a meal it's gonna be a roast
if u mess with me you'll go like toast
toast that went burnt
so tell me what u've learnt"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Hilarious. Great stuff there. Shakespeare would be jealous.
So, you ADMIT that you feel better about your worthless wimpy little whiteboy self by saying "funny words" about violence? You admit you'd get the shit kicked out of you by your own grandmother but you feel better about it if you freestyle violent shit (not forgetting: on AOL) about it?
Oh Jesus.
You have got to be the dumbest motherfucking BlueLighter ever.
"i gangsta freestyle but my shit is dope out da game"
You can't be fucking serious about this ...
"if i eat a meal it's gonna be a roast
if u mess with me you'll go like toast
toast that went burnt"
INSPIRATIONAL!
That's it, I'm done humiliating you. Now go smoke your DANK ASS BUDZ and freestyle "dope outa da game" shit:
My name is Matt
People say I'm fat
But I don't give a fuck where they're at
Cause I have a cat
And it sat
On the mat.
Ps. Could you tell me your age please? I'm really curious. Don't bother to reply if you don't include your age.
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sonic
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Hehehe. Why is it that most of the pro potheads in this thread appear to be the least educated/intellegent? Most of the posts in this thread are a prime example as to why you shouldn't smoke pot on a daily basis. No offense, but you kids are making your drug look bad. You're an embarrasment to the intellegent and successful pot users who haven't yet contributed to this thread.
Yes.. I'm trying to inspire some intellegent potheads to argue their case. I'm open to the idea that marijuana is harmless to some people, but so far this thread hasn't proved that at all.
Yes.. I'm trying to inspire some intellegent potheads to argue their case. I'm open to the idea that marijuana is harmless to some people, but so far this thread hasn't proved that at all.
Adrenochrome
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gugglebum:
Avatar, or icon, you odviously know what i ment. Why the fuck would you're icon be about jizzing on someone's face, maybe knowing that you're forcing other people to look at this cartoon jizz shot is your sick way of getting off who knows, you're one insane dude thats fo sho.
I do not smoke weed everyday, I take breaks from time to time to let my lungs recoporate a little, and when i do smoke everyday it's probably like 15 hits AT MOST, the entire day. And yes it's always the best nugs I can buy, i smoke only that sinsemilla, if it's got sum seeds I aint fuckin wit it. And I don't buy from thugs, I try to find the dealers with the best ethics to deal with(but usually they still got kinda bad ethics, becuase well they're just in it for them money).
My age is 18, and i've been smokin since the age of 13. Been freestyle rappin since the age of 17, and when i usually freestyle rap recently it's about things that are true in my life, so it's just a fun form of expression. Anyone that has ever flowed knows how fascinating it is to be on a flow, it's just you're brain workin at max, a lot of the times you dont know what you're gonna say next it just comes out, it's really interesting and fun.
Anyway I don't want to make a post just an attack(like yours was) so I got to go back on topic, I was just saying for you to quit bitching about weed doing shit to you anything it has done to you (or any drug has done to you)you've brought on yourself, you got to take responsiblity for where you're at in life dog, you need a fuckin reality check manne!!!
Avatar, or icon, you odviously know what i ment. Why the fuck would you're icon be about jizzing on someone's face, maybe knowing that you're forcing other people to look at this cartoon jizz shot is your sick way of getting off who knows, you're one insane dude thats fo sho.
I do not smoke weed everyday, I take breaks from time to time to let my lungs recoporate a little, and when i do smoke everyday it's probably like 15 hits AT MOST, the entire day. And yes it's always the best nugs I can buy, i smoke only that sinsemilla, if it's got sum seeds I aint fuckin wit it. And I don't buy from thugs, I try to find the dealers with the best ethics to deal with(but usually they still got kinda bad ethics, becuase well they're just in it for them money).
My age is 18, and i've been smokin since the age of 13. Been freestyle rappin since the age of 17, and when i usually freestyle rap recently it's about things that are true in my life, so it's just a fun form of expression. Anyone that has ever flowed knows how fascinating it is to be on a flow, it's just you're brain workin at max, a lot of the times you dont know what you're gonna say next it just comes out, it's really interesting and fun.
Anyway I don't want to make a post just an attack(like yours was) so I got to go back on topic, I was just saying for you to quit bitching about weed doing shit to you anything it has done to you (or any drug has done to you)you've brought on yourself, you got to take responsiblity for where you're at in life dog, you need a fuckin reality check manne!!!
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gugglebum said:
Maybe you are right, and you have a decent arguement. But dont you think it might also just be your personal taste for drugs? I know people that wouldnt ever smoke weed every day, but they wont go a day without taking amphetamines. I also know people that have quit weed to do more cocaine. Maybe the drugs you get addicted to have somthing to do with personal preference, and not so much the drug.
As far as harm goes, alot of other drugs would be much worse if you did them every day. At least you can quit weed without horrible withdrawls. If anything maybe weed is one of the most psychologically addicting drugs, and again I think part of that has to do with preference.
With that said, weed still probably the drug that has harmed me the most. Mostly coughing and black mucus and such.