⫸STICKY⫷ Australian Opiate Withdrawal Maintainance Medication Prescribers

[Mr Blonde]

^ I might call up and ask about it... I don't particularly want to have to do dailing dosing in my profession.

 

[Ashley]

Injected methadone is 100% different, even if i inject half my maintainence dose it produces euphoria ect. The oral route for methadone is fucking horrible for getting high, perfect for maintaining wellness though which is what MMT is for man.

Yeah? Euphoria from IV methadone? I've tried methadone on a number of occasions, both oral and IV, before I started out on buprenorphine; and after. Methadone Syrup, Biodone Forte and Physeptone. I've injected a fair whack of the brown stuff and although I see what you mean; you certainly feel it more and a bit stoned but I don't get what the big deal is with people booting their TA's - and the sheer amount of fluid you have to inject, considering its only 5mg/1mL, is just off it's head.

 

[Ashley]

Does anyone know of any subutex/suboxone prescribers in Newcastle/Central Coast region in NSW? I am having a hell of a time trying to find anyone willing to prescribe it.

Kullaroo Clinic
Holden Street, Gosford NSW 2250
Ph: (02) 4320 2505

It's opposite Gosford Hospital. Hope that helps ya out mate. Good luck.

 

[Ashley]

Does anyone get Subutex takeaways at all? I've been attending this clinic 7 days a week for 3 years, which has/is wearing me out - and they claim that they do not do takeaways with Subutex, only Suboxone. I tried Suboxone for a little while but had bad reactions to it and it didn't feel like it was holding me entirely, if that makes any sense so I switched back to Subutex.

 

[Mr Blonde]

I know you can definitely get Subutex takeaways if you are dosing at a pharmacy and have been on the program long enough and have been a good patient. Why are you still dosing at the clinic? Have you asked to be transferred to a pharmacy for dosing yet> The clinic would still have to authorize the pharmacy to give you takeaways though. It might just be the policy of the clinic you are at. Where in Australia are you?

On a side note, no more discussion in this thread about getting high off takeaways or injecting methadone, etc. This thread is for people seeking support to get on opioid replacement therapy or to get help with their addictions. If people want to make a thread for talking about injecting their methadone or buprenorphine and how to do it safely then go for it or use the search engine to find an old thread. Just keep it out of here.

 

[MrIbis]

no shit Mr. B. I never made this thread with people trying to score takeaways to get high in mind.

There's plenty of threads on the matter over in OD and places like that. I can't see it being useful to ask "oh how do i get subby takeaways so i can shoot it up". Chances are if you have any kind of opiate tolerance you're not gonna get fuckn diddly squat from doing bupe.

 

[madmick19]

I doubt that you will be put on to a clinic or even be able to get a doctor to help you for that low level of a habit, though you may strike out lucky. Personally I would recommend you tape down yourself personally. Find a rate that isn't too fast, and get down to a low level then stop.

If you really want to go to a clinic, there is one at Biala (Roma St, near the major train station and just up from the police HQ) or one at Peel St. You may need to call up first and discuss your situation with them.

hey guys,

depending on the clinic and the medical prescribers its worth clinic and having a discussion with the clinics in your area. dependence should be assessed within the context of the person, their situation & psychosocial circumstances and history of use of substances. historically people who have met the criteria for dependence have the problem of reinstatement occurring very quickly- which is what is also taken into account at the assessment phase. Compared to other opioid analgesia/substances codeine is not necessarily percieved as a drug of dependence, but it does have the properties that people who are at higher risk for continued substance use leading to dependence do seek out. just cause its not as strong as heroin/morphine does not mean it should be discounted. the amount of rikodene that what was it is taking is a pretty hazardous level esp with the sorbitol that is also contined within the preparation

i know Ive done some assessments for people with what would be classed a low level overall dependence (amount) likely psychological based and they have started on the program on a reducing tapered dose of bupe or methadone over a week or two. some other who have come onto the program have found that all they wanted to do was go up and up on doses- which is a behavioral manifestation of dependence some of these people stabilise on less and some need to eventually be transferred onto methadone for pharmacotherapy stability. Usually the people who do the best in the situation with low level dependence are the people who put work into to a good relapse prevention plan and explore the payoff's of using (what it does for them, when are they most likely to use-what circumstances/situations tend to trigger use, and a plan to address the needs at the root of using substances- pleasure, joy, connection, relaxation with non drug related activities).

if you can speak to your GP; maybe a short reduction phase of codeine phosphate over say a two to four week taper, or withdrawal support with Valium and doloxene for a few days. the majority of harm done from injesting codiene related products is usually done by the additional products in the preparations- and ive seen a guy been referred to have his stomach removed due to the amount of ibuprofen he was injesting- now has to each through a tube going into his stomach.

 

[Methadonia2010]

feeling depressed

I rekon the pharm is skimming it, doesnt seem very thick to me.

 

[Methadonia2010]

I absolutely hate the chemist routine daily

 

[leigh12]

my prescriber insists that theres no tolerance issues with methadone, the start off dose of 30mg wld hold me n put me to sleep for the first week, now iv kept uppin everytime i notice tolerance n now on 115-120. wich doesnt effect me mentally , just keeps me from withdrawels , holds me for bout 36 hrs max.
but doesnt sedate nor have any opiate effect whatsoever wich was the reason i got on the program , thinkin id stil get my daily buzz n eventually ween off , wich i started to do when i hit 120mg , now im stuck on 115 , iv also noticed if i dont take my xanax till night, and the methdone in day , ill get slight opiate effects , but i hear benzos and done mix well, but i only feel the xanax wen dosing b$ the done . i still score gear for a puff every now n again just coz i like the taste , it doesnt get me high unless i buy 300mg n smoke it all in one sitting ( i dont shoot anymore , got bastard veins lol even wen in hospital they had to get specialist to take my blood, n that was b4 i was shootin on sorta regular basis, once a fortnite maybe , not daily . i hope iv made a point outa this post im sharded as fuck

 

[leigh12]

Can I go on methadone even I dont IV but have a habit? Im in Brisbane...where can I go? Thanks

a friend of mine went on the program with a total bullshit story , they do a bloodtest to see what substances r there and to check for hep c , aids etc .. he was only using oxy 80's recreationally for years until his supplier got locked up then he was stuck with no source , so yeh , long story short, its easy to get on . i didnt have a full on habit when i got on it , i started because id started shooting with my ex n i knew if i didnt do somethn id end up full on lowy junky , now my lifes so much better , feel so much miore clear headed during the day , can sleep good , dont wake up 10 times a nite like i used to , besides 2 monthly docs visits and 3x 5 min drives to get my doses or takeaways a week im free as a bird, rather than tryin to source opiates, the traveling to score, the waiting , the risks etc

 

[Smoko]

Editing this for now as I'm not sure if naming specific doctors is a good idea.

 

[Crankinit]

still score gear for a puff every now n again just coz i like the taste , it doesnt get me high unless i buy 300mg n smoke it all in one sitting ( i dont shoot anymore , got bastard veins lol even wen in hospital they had to get specialist to take my blood, n that was b4 i was shootin on sorta regular basis,

You tried IMing it? I'm similar to you with the shitty vein situation and when I have a bad day and can't hit after 1 or 2 tries these days I just IM the shot instead. It takes a bit longer to come on (10 minutes or so) but doesn't feel any less potent. Would definitely be more bang for your buck than smoking.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Lets keep the conversation in this thread to how to get onto programs to treat opioid dependence; not general chit chat about using.

 

[Charles Bronson]

yes mr. blonde, they do detox you you from NO MORE than 20 mg of Valium, otherwise u get sent overt to the ATODS...

Do they have methadone there? at biala?

 

[Subtext]

In my long ago experience they do have methadone at biala for when you're starting on the program, before you get a script for a chemist.

 

[Mr Blonde]

They might still do methadone at Biala, I'm note sure... hold let me make a quick phone call... Yes they do dose methadone at Biala, only for a brief period to have you stabilized and they then move you on to dosing in community pharmacy.

 

[Subtext]

^ Now this answer is why you are a mod. Nice work Mr B

 

[over it 70]

that euro guy that said wd is a walk in the park is silly

 

[Methadonia2010]

Methadone is a highly addictive drug, wont suit all Im a lifer though... been so long now i forgot !! its like brushing my teeth