Australian IV drugs; safer practices and useful experiences

[JihadJack]

^or just have some H ready

 

[MR Candyslut]

i prefer reality these days

 

[who_can_say]

yeah and then sink into the black abyss once you start coming down from such an intense place.

8)

I haven't had that yet G makes me happ-ee again

 

[DoctorShop]

Dark black abyss? Sounds like the name of an emo song. Don't think I've ever had that bad a comedown MrCS...

 

[who_can_say]

The only bad comedown Ive had from blasting crystal was when I (stupidly) was quite active the next day moving stuff from my folks place to mine, and I used my arm too much and it got a bit sore. Later that night I was starting to freak out majorly that I was having some problem and I was stiring myself into a panic. But then funny thing was I realised I was doing it, so I was counseling myself at the same time I was panicking. But then all of a sudden I snapped out of it and went to sleep.

I went to bed cuddling my teddy bear hehe

 

[MR Candyslut]

Dark black abyss? Sounds like the name of an emo song. Don't think I've ever had that bad a comedown MrCS...

That was my point. HAha. I think i was being somewhat facetious

I have always taken it as a given that people experience more severe comedowns after injecting meth, as opposed to say, dumping it or any other MO.
All those around me say the same But reading most of the posts in this thread would suggest something else. How interesting.

Thinking of the comedowns i used to experience is enough to make me feel nauseous.

 

[who_can_say]

^ how much were you using? I probably only use about 2-2.5 points in a sesh. Probably explain why I don't get the comedowns.

 

[DoctorShop]

That was my point. HAha. I think i was being somewhat facetious

I have always taken it as a given that people experience more severe comedowns after injecting meth, as opposed to say, dumping it or any other MO.
All those around me say the same But reading most of the posts in this thread would suggest something else. How interesting.

Thinking of the comedowns i used to experience is enough to make me feel nauseous.

Apologies, I was being somewhat prickish

I guess it depends on how much you do. I never used to go to clubs/raves while on it so.. there you go.

 

[MR Candyslut]

^ how much were you using? I probably only use about 2-2.5 points in a sesh. Probably explain why I don't get the comedowns.

Well back then, I was using probably about a gram over a 4 day binge or so. Thus, in that context, i recognise that it was due to my own stupidity more than anything else.

However, on the very, very few occasions that I have done it since then, I have probably had a 1.5 point shot and still felt just as bad the next day I guess my capability/desire to handle the after-effects these days has diminished (thankfully).

 

[beech]

I guess my drug of choice these days is MDMA however in times gone by I quite enjoyed shooting speed. Like Who Can Say, I never learnt to do it myself, a friend always did it for me. It was a measure I took to ensure I'd not be able to do it myself in the event that I got a little too friendly with it all. I haven't shot anything in probably 18 months but have been thinking about it a fair bit lately however I can't see it happening any time soon as none of my friends IV and I can't do it myself. I don't think I'd even feel confident doing to myself if I researched how to do it.

Even having not done it in a long time, when I think about doing it and how it made me feel it still makes me tingle and crave it, even though I was never a heavy user.

A couple of my friends know I've done it but most don't, I don't think it would wash very well with those who don't know. They are open minded folks but yeah really draw the line at injecting - standard stigma stuff really i guess.

 

[my innerself]

The worst comedown I have had on crystal awas not long after I started using it. I danged one point at about 11pm then another at about 3am. Later in the morning at about 6am I was laying on the couch watching tv, I felt like the whippa was getting more and more intense, my face was litarally on fire. My face went very red and hot. I thought to myself "fuck Im OD"ing on this shit, I had very little energy and had to walk to the bathroom and stand under a cold shower. I was under the water for at least 30 minutes and felt like absolute shit. I thought I was dieing. I couldn't move my arms more then 15cms away from my chest and could feel what felt like all my organs shutting down. For some stupid reason I was more concerned with getting dressed then calling for help, I didn't want to be found naked and dead. I got dressed and walked out to make a phone call to another more exprerienced user friend. I could hardly talk, my voice was very slurry and laboured. I just stumbled outside to the driveway and leant against my letterbox waiting for my friend. I was very pale and probibly looked like death. I got alot of weird looks from all the early morning joggers and walkers. When my mate arrived I told him I thought I was goona die, he just laughed his head off and told me I was having a harsh comedown. This reasurred me alot. I've never had a problem like this since. Can anyone explain what happened. I had only been danging meth for about 1 month up until that day and never used it before then.

 

[Jabberwocky]

ive always crashed a lot harder after iv'ing meth as opposed to smoking it. even after smoking up to 4-5 points compared to a 2 point blat.

now i have benzos on hand so its not so bad

 

[who_can_say]

That's why I like taking it with G. A few weeks ago I blasted crystal with K and I was up for a few days...the other night did crystal with a G chaser and I slept wonderfully last night. Although in all fairness the crystal both times were different purity (duh) so that would have played a part.

 

[my innerself]

bumpity bump

 

[cobaltdemon]

i never thought i would be an IV user (i smoke meth) as i had/have a fear of needles. but i have a good friend who started IVing meth a while back so i became curious..

the first time she injected me, the rush before the needle went in was far greater than the effect of the drug (gotta love fight or flight mech lol)
that was a few months back and she IV'd me 3 times over a weekend, the last time in a club while we were both so high that i stupidly shared a rig with her (after she washed it out a lot). even though we had both been tested recently and knew we were clean (and have been tested since) i was so disgusted with myself that i'd broken the most fundamental rule that i vowed never to IV again so as not to make the wrong decision again.

but, lo and behold, NYE, decided to try IVing a pill. i asked the same friend (who is a nurse) to do it.. over the course of the night i jacked up 3 times with about 3 and a half pills (they were low dose and i have a high tolerance).. micron filtered of course..

and now coming out the other side of new years i find that i have this quiet but insistent urge to IV again.. but will probably stick to meth as dont want to push my luck injecting pills with god knows what in them into me. as for frequency, i'm at the mercy of my friend as to how often i see her and how willing she is, dont know if i want to learn to do it myself..i guess its one way of curing a needle phobia lol

 

[Urbie]

The attachemt filters i spoke of before are known as UFO's on the street as they are a round device that fits between the pic and the hub, and have been proven to minimise the danger associated with IVing substances, paticularly Oxycontins / Kapanol (course Kapanol has to be ground down first, then melted) but still results in a particle filled mix.

Unsure if these devices are available interstate.

XX Isis

In Brisbane's Needle Exchange @ Valley sold them for something like $1.20 or something like that. Not sure nowdays because I haven't booted up since 2004when I was sort of going through mildly serious hydromophone habit.

I have only whacked up hydromophone (Dillie's aka Movie "Drugstore Cowboy" favourtie drug of choice when they were raiding chemists). I never shot meth or other drugs, even I had access to them, they didn't interest me.

It all started because I was curious about this drug, and got a friend to whack up for me, I all started with just 4mg as once off thing, and found myself using every weekend, then every couple days and my tolerence just increased from 4mg to nearly 30mg or something per whack in short span of 4 months.

So I left Brisbane and haven't touched needles since 2004. But I would be lying to myself if I said I will never touch them again, if someone offered me a nice quailty pharm-grade morphine or hydromophone, I have no idea if I would take it or not, "for old times sake" or whatever that shit. Even I am temporay living in Tasmania, the state of endless supply of morphine and opium, even the opium farms are only 15 minutes away, and not even protected, just a small fence surrounding the farms.

Looking back I am not ashamed that I went through a small needle/opiate stage which was only lasting for no more than 5 months, I was enjoying it, until my dosage was increasing tenfold.

So if you are whacking pills, least look after your health and get these miron filters if you can, they are great tools aiding harm reduction.

 

[who_can_say]

and now coming out the other side of new years i find that i have this quiet but insistent urge to IV again.. but will probably stick to meth as dont want to push my luck injecting pills with god knows what in them into me. as for frequency, i'm at the mercy of my friend as to how often i see her and how willing she is, dont know if i want to learn to do it myself..i guess its one way of curing a needle phobia lol

I never thought I would IV, it was a taboo thing in my eyes. Now, I prefer doing it that way than smoking. And yeah, I get those cravings to IV as well. I just love the rush. But I keep it as a special occasion thing. I don't want to lose those feelings because I'm doing it too often.

And I know what you mean about learning to do it myself. I think I'd probably pass out if I had to IV msyelf whereas I have no problem watching people do it to me. Cross that bridge if and when I come to it though...

 

[bRiSvEgAs4lIfE]

I never thought I would IV, it was a taboo thing in my eyes. Now, I prefer doing it that way than smoking. And yeah, I get those cravings to IV as well. I just love the rush. But I keep it as a special occasion thing. I don't want to lose those feelings because I'm doing it too often.

Shooting meth too often will not decrease the rush, only increase your tolerance. Speed doesn't seem to be like mdma, you can't "lose the magic", I have had an IV habit (3 - 4 day binges every week) for 2 years now and I sometimes think the rush is better these days than when I started.

 

[Splatt]

I swear meth fucks up your dopamine system somethiong chronic. Every drug I take these days just makes me wanna pass out. Even a meal..

 

[who_can_say]

I'm hoping this isn't out of the guidelines of this thread, but I had a query. The friend who I inject with told me that the sign of good drug purity when you inject is that you get this 'feeling' at the back of your throat. I hadn't had it, but the last few times I have (in particular last night....).

Is this a myth, or reality, or what?

Ta!