Ask an Escort- by XtcgrlATL

[xtcgrlatl]

Could I offer you and Mariposa a compromise? Would you get tested at regular timely intervals?

To what end? So that I can have a guilty conscience? Regardless of whether I come back for a genital infecting type of HPV or HSV-2 I still have to make a living until I can put myself in a position to do something else. Last time I was actively trying to get a job, not even a good job, just ANYTHING, I burned through over $6,000 of savings account before resorting to the only job skill that seemed to be in demand.

 

[xtcgrlatl]

When I was maybe 14 years old I told my dad that it seemed prostitutes had it made. He told me, "They look pretty and fit now but what are they gonna do when they get older?"

Daddy probably didn't know that if a popular girl seriously pushes herself in this business for 5 years in a decent city that she could support a modest lifestyle for about the next 40-50. That's assuming that she never makes another dime.


Daddy probably didnt also know that girls into their 40's still have enough demand to get by well enough as long as they're taking care of themselves.

Objectively speaking, My mother is just a bit closer to 45 then she is to 40 and could still probably make a good living doing this.

 

[xtcgrlatl]

In general, are customers polite and respectful towards you? How often are they rude or even demeaning? How do you you handle the 'difficult' ones?

The vast majority of my clients are very polite and respectful. It's pretty rare that anyone that is outright rude or demeaning see's me. When it does happen it's usually someone who was nice on the phone but by the time we meet he's drunk. If someone is annoying then I usually try and soldier through it with a smile, they often don't realize that they're annoying because they're drunk

I've only straight up kicked someone out well before their time was up once because he was exceedingly scummy looking and wanted to smoke crack while I went down on him. Fuck that.

 

[0000alphabet0000]

To what end? So that I can have a guilty conscience? Regardless of whether I come back for a genital infecting type of HPV or HSV-2 I still have to make a living until I can put myself in a position to do something else. Last time I was actively trying to get a job, not even a good job, just ANYTHING, I burned through over $6,000 of savings account before resorting to the only job skill that seemed to be in demand.

I guess at least so you could save your own cunt if you got something that is curable.

 

[djfriendly]

Regardless of whether I come back for a genital infecting type of HPV or HSV-2 I still have to make a living until I can put myself in a position to do something else.

I've just lost any sympathy for your situation. You started this thread and opened yourself up to such questioning but you get rather defensive when a legitimate concern is raised. I couldn't care less about whether "all the other girls do it too," or however you phrased it earlier.

This is a harm reduction board. How do you think people would respond if someone started a thread called "ask a drug dealer..." and stated that they sold drugs which one might suspect were contaminated, but they can't be bothered to find out because it might hurt their bottom line? And then further, stated that even if they positively knew the drugs were contaminated, they would choose to sell them anyway?

How would you feel if your ecstasy dealer knowingly sold you dangerous pills? Hey, he's got to make a living, right?

I wish you and your clients the very best of luck, since you're relying on it so heavily.

 

[fatallyflawed]

But that doesn't put us in a position to ignore the fact that streetwalkers often attract lower class clientèle.

Im sorry but I didnt know that one person paying for sex was different than a different person paying for sex. To me regardless of where on this class of clientelle as you put it, it is rather disturbing that someone, in this day and age of sexual liberation so to speak, would spend any amount of money for a lay when the local watering hole has SOMEONE else in need of that loving feeling and as long as you have some slight form of game, you cant miss!

 

[fatallyflawed]

to clarify my point, since i see it confusing now that i reread it, one "john" is no different than another "john"

 

[xtcgrlatl]

I guess at least so you could save your own cunt if you got something that is curable.

My impression is that most of curable things are generally less "silent" then viral infections such as HPV and HSV2.

 

[xtcgrlatl]

I've just lost any sympathy for your situation.

Sympathy? I don't need sympathy. My job rocks.

You started this thread

For entertainment. It doesn't affect me even a little bit if I lose "sympathy". This thread isn't because I need encouragement or a pat on the back. It's simply to talk about what I do because people have expressed curiosity about it.

and opened yourself up to such questioning but you get rather defensive when a legitimate concern is raised. I couldn't care less about whether "all the other girls do it too," or however you phrased it earlier.

I'm simply stated my reasoning.

How do you think people would respond if someone started a thread called "ask a drug dealer..." and stated that they sold drugs which one might suspect were contaminated, but they can't be bothered to find out because it might hurt their bottom line? And then further, stated that even if they positively knew the drugs were contaminated, they would choose to sell them anyway?

Do you want a niced up thread or do you want an informative one? I knew that STD's were going to be one of the first things that came up, I knew that people were going to harp and harp and harp on it and try and guilt trip me and tell me how selfish it was. I answered honestly because that's the point of the thread. No one is going to tell me anything I don't already know about STD's, no one is going to shock me by telling me that I'm being selfish. I already knew that.

Your drug dealer example would simply be a matter of a drug dealer admitting outright what everyone knows about drug dealers. If you engage in a black market activity you are accepting the risks associated with that activity. If you buy drugs and you put them in your body you have accepted the risk that those drugs carry, either on their own or if they are contaminated.

How would you feel if your ecstasy dealer knowingly sold you dangerous pills? Hey, he's got to make a living, right?

Last two times someone sold me shitty and potentially dangerous pills I didn't even find the guys again because if I eat those pills then I have accepted the risk that comes with them. I don't know if the guys that sold them knew that they sucked or not and it doesn't matter because it was my choice to eat them knowing that black market pills are potentially dangerous.

Drug dealers are not tracking you down and shoving poison pills down your throat, nor am I tracking anyone down and making them have sex with me.

And unlike many drug dealers, I don't lie to people. If someone asks about my STD status they get a straight answer, the same one you all have gotten.

It's called personal responsibility.

 

[NeoMeeko]

Okay... I have never admitted this to anyone besides my boyfriend and one friend, but I'm going to because I want to ask a personal question while kind of showing my side of why I'm asking the question (dear god I hope that made sense, lol)

Well I have HPV, caught from the bastard I call my daughters father, and it's been hell since I got it. So, as scary as it is to have an STD or potentially have one, why don't you get tested often? And don't you think about how with each person you have sex with that you are potentially opening yourself up to a disease that may or may not be curable. Such as... what happens if you got HIV? You say you need the money and this is your job, but what if you did come up positive for ANY std, would you stop? What about all the people you could have infected too? My boyfriend knows what I have and hes okay with it because of the circumstances. But what if you fell in love, and had to say "Well I got HIV from someone that meant nothing more than money?"

I hope Im not asking that in a rude manner, but what would you do if you came up positive, and why not get tested more often so you could stop if something did come up? I get tested two times a year even in a committed relationship, it just covers my end and makes sure my HPV isn't progressing more. I've already had biopsies done and part of my cervix cut out, I just couldn't imagine going through what I have knowing I have it from someone that meant just money, ya know? You might feel different. That's why Im asking, just what your thoughts are on STD's and how that can affect your future relationships, thoughts in general about stds etc... etc...

 

[xtcgrlatl]

Im sorry but I didnt know that one person paying for sex was different than a different person paying for sex.

When one person makes almost as much money as I do year for year, and the other makes almost as much money in 3 weeks as I do in a day they're generally a different class of people.

it is rather disturbing that someone, in this day and age of sexual liberation so to speak, would spend any amount of money for a lay when the local watering hole has SOMEONE else in need of that loving feeling and as long as you have some slight form of game, you cant miss!

Once again I suggest waiting till you're 45, pudgy, bald, married for the past 10 years and have no private free time except on your lunch break and tell me how much game you've got working the bars that aren't open for the half hour you have before you need to get back to work and call your wife. At that point I hope you have a happy marriage, like fat girls(or bi/gay guys of a similar age and physical stature), or have a deep wallet because that's all the game you're likely to have.

 

[NeoMeeko]

When one person makes almost as much money as I do year for year, and the other makes almost as much money in 3 weeks as I do in a day they're generally a different class of people.

I just find it odd that you would call them a different class of people when regardless of how much money you make, you are still selling your body for sex. How does money make you better than them in your "class" of people, when there are people who make money that doesn't involve your body?

And if you are basically saying that you would still have sex regardless of having an STI or STD, doesn't that put you in a class of people that really don't care about anyone but themselves? I just don't understand that.

 

[xtcgrlatl]

So, as scary as it is to have an STD or potentially have one, why don't you get tested often?

This one pretty much answered itself. Getting tested doesn't stop you from having an STD. It just confirms what you're scared of. When you do what I do for a living it seems better to not know.

what happens if you got HIV?

Depends on at what point this is. One has to look at their life circumstances at the time and decide how best to cross that bridge.

You say you need the money and this is your job, but what if you did come up positive for ANY std, would you stop?

Once again this depends on life circumstances at the time and what the STD is.

The first option is to limit the services I provide. IE: Go from being GFE to "body rub". This is just "massage and a handjob....two bits". (It'd be funnier if I could sing it in person)

"Well I got HIV from someone that meant nothing more than money?"

Money is what allows me to do both then necessary things in life and the fun things in life. It's a pretty vital thing to have in the society I live in.

I hope Im not asking that in a rude manner

Not at all, and I hope my brevity isn't taken as rudeness

I just couldn't imagine going through what I have knowing I have it from someone that meant just money, ya know?

I came to a point in my life where it was sink, swim, or beg mommy to toss me a life preserver...again. I decided I'd rather swim on my own rather then ask for help and getting evicted sure wasn't on my list of things to do.


Anyways, STD's are always on my mind. When you do what I do they have to be because you have to be on the lookout for them as best you can.

I mean really, have any of you ever been getting ready to go down on someone and during the visual inspection noticed the herpes infection on their dick? I have.

I have to size up peoples likelihood of being an STD risk to me all the time. Both in the flesh or through email/telephone interaction. STD's are why my price range is where it's at, they're part of why I discriminate in my business based on multiple factors, they're just part of the business as a whole.

As far as how I'd handle them if I had symptoms/came back positive. I don't know. To many factors involved to say and keep it short.

 

[xtcgrlatl]

I just find it odd that you would call them a different class of people when regardless of how much money you make, you are still selling your body for sex. How does money make you better than them in your "class" of people, when there are people who make money that doesn't involve your body?

And if you are basically saying that you would still have sex regardless of having an STI or STD, doesn't that put you in a class of people that really don't care about anyone but themselves? I just don't understand that.

You misunderstand. That's ok. I suppose I'll break it down. Poor uneducated people have a significantly higher rate of STD's then well off married guys. If you're a poor uneducated street walker the people that see you are probably not the most shining pillars of society. They're catering to fellow poor people who are probably not married, more likely to engage in unprotected sex, more likely to have more partners, more likely to engage in IV drug use with needle sharing.

They're probably not getting all the doctors and lawyers and business owners that have been married for 10 years and not been with any woman other then their wives in that time frame. I'd say that a good 70% or better of the guys that see me say they've never seen an escort before when asked.


Basically you're not going to spontaneously develop an STD based on number of partners, there are factors to consider that can give one an idea of how risky the person walking in the door is. If I sleep with 100 guys and they're all clean, then all is well. Since I can't know for sure that they're clean I do my best to ensure that my appeal is to low-risk clients. I also do my best to quickly get an idea of who I am talking to and if they engage in risk taking behavior regularly and I may decide not to see someone based on factors that I have decided I am uncomfortable with.

 

[Fausty]

If U ever get a felony, U'll never get a decent job, not even in the nursing industry.

I'd just like to point out that this isn't necessarily true. Some industries - and careers - are more tough about a felony conviction than others, but in general much depends on the specific case:"felony," used as a marker of really bad crimes has suffered grade inflation so much that there's an awful lot of folks out there that are felons for what are, basically, silly crimes.

Industries that are growing, in need of particularly talented employees, or composed of a higher proportion of smaller employers are more likely to take some kinds of felony convictions in stride.

When I was in prison, we had one worthless "career counselor" who spent all her time complaining about how hard her job was, providing catastrophically ill-considered advice on writing resumes and doing job interviews, and repeating over and over that "as felons, you can't even get a job at McDonalds so don't set your sights on getting a good job when you get out." I couldn't help but eventually interrupt her to ask what getting a job at McDonalds has to do with getting a good job (no offense to folks working a job like that for one reason or another).

Many of the folks I know from my time inside are out kicking ass in the world, today. All are, by definition, felons. Only a tiny handful have slid back into illegal activities (as far as I know, anyway). Frankly, sometimes an experience like being convicted of a felony and doing some time can kick someone in the ass and remind them that the "challenges" we face out here in the free world aren't fuck-all compared to the challenge of being on lockdown. I know it did that for me.

Peace,

Fausty

 

[0000alphabet0000]

What STDs have you been tested for? What STDs have you tested positive for in the past (if any)?

 

[exarkann]

^ did you even read the thread up to this point?

 

[0000alphabet0000]

^ did you even read the thread up to this point?

I've read every word of this thread. She said that she is clean as of November; that does not indicate any curable diseases she may have picked up in the past, and that does not indicate whether she had been tested for the full spectrum of STDs. Maybe I've misread this thread as it has been going on for several days, so please show me where she said she has been completely clean her whole life. Thanks.

 

[xtcgrlatl]

September, actually, November was after my court date and I had to show a piece of paper verifying that I had been tested to the probation officer for the court date in October so it had to be before then.

I'm not sure what all they tested for, I know they tested for HIV and HSV-2 and several other things, they took a blood sample and also did a swab, but I can't remember what all it was but my impression was that they did a pretty wide spectrum of tests. But keep in mind it wasn't something that I sought out, I just had to show up at the health department, hand them a piece of paper that I had read like one time when I first got it back at the start of my probation saying that I was court ordered to take the following STD tests with a little list.

Then they did a swab, drew some blood, told me to come back in some such amount of days to pick up the results and the paper verifying that I had taken the tests to give to my probation officer and so I did.

 

[glitterbizkit]

Yikes. I always had the impression that sex workers - escorts like xtcgrlatl rather than street walkers, obviously - were less likely to have std's because they are more meticulous about using protection and about getting tested regularly. I used to have respect for escorts, but it has diminished quite a lot after reading the last few pages of this thread. I find your attitude quite scary, actually.

My impression is that most of curable things are generally less "silent" then viral infections such as HPV and HSV2.

Most women with chlamydia have no symptoms, and it's one of the most common std's. I think gonorrhea is symptomless quite often too. I have had a friend who got chlamydia while using a condom (really unlikely, but shit happens). By at least getting tested for curable std's you could prevent somebody's poor wife from infertility just because her husband was fucking around.