Here's an opinion -
For those needing "scientific" data, or studies done by the "educated".... in order to have some belief in a natural product that does "in fact" have a lot of great uses, does in fact do most of what is claimed about it for a lot of people, you might want to consider this....
All the scientific studies that have been done and backed by the "super scientific regulatory bodies" fda and others... that have 100's of times backed all kinds of shit that is known to be toxic to humans (drugs, pestiscides, fertilizers, supposed water purity control products, you name it - its all SCientifIC.. its all been Scientifically studied and allowed into our food our water, our air, and basically everywhere else too - all with the scientific communities endorsement (though not all communities)
Shit I'm opening up an entirely different issue... main thing is forget science to prove every damn thing to you in order to believe it.
Reality our plannet and everything in it has natural things to help us in many many ways (applecidervinegar) being one of them... Had there been no man made shit on this planet like all the toxins we ingest every day in the name of the all mightly dollar when it comes down to it... things like apple.c.v would tackle a lot of the naturally occurring dis-ease (though not all).
Now that we're filled with toxic shit all day long, even when you think you're eating really healthy by eating lots of raw fruits and veggies a lot of the time unless you're eating purely organic produce you're often doing a lot of damage that will show up in years because of the buildup resulting in cancer for example...
Look at Dana Reve who recently passed from lung cancer, who ate well, took care of herself, never smoked but died of lung cancer..... What the hell?
She died because the scientific studies that said this or that was okay at such a limit, like pestiscides, pollution, and whatever else... are very obviously false.... Keep watching as the years roll by, as has been the case the scientific studies will show up on each toxin we're all taking in now, and their excuse will be as it always has been "we just didn't know the long term effects"
Drugs are not better than natural healing substances (sure I'm a hippocrate because I'm on drugs myself, but being stuck on drugs has led me to spend atleast 100hrs looking into all this shit)
What I come up with is our world has gone so far in the wrong direction, filling our children with drugs because they aren't behaving properly in the classroom, (most don't need the drugs they are given, though some do forsure but ask yourself why that is..... if there weren't any of the toxins in our food, water etc... and people didn't fill themselves with shit while pregnant then mabye just mabye the children that actually do end up needing drugs would never have needed them inthe first place... I'm not blaming pregnant mothers in saying that at all except for the ones that insist on taking drugs, and shit... but because all this scientific bullshit surrounds us and is in our water, food etc... and because the governing bodies have to protect themselves from prosecution the general public has this complete missconception that when we get sick taking a drug is the best way to help ourselves...
Sure drugs are powerful and some are even effective but they are the products that should say ontheir label "this product is not intended to prevent, or cure a disease"as all the natural substances have to claim just to be sold....
though drugs are effective at masking trouble, and providing temp. relief...
anyway not sure how I got into this... but people give this some thought, and lets get on the right track... we all need to insist on a large scale that we'll no longer tollerate being bombarded by toxins, and then other toxins to help relieve the effects....
I'm no better than the next person, but I'm learning and willing to learn a better way...
Take a look at how many kids are now taking drugs every day of their lives just to be..... all from the medical and pharmaceutical community which is supposedly here to help and protect us and do no harm...
But I guess effexor, and paxil ofcourse have no harmful effects, and ofcourse no real addiction or withdrawl right!!!!! give me a break.....
Oh and there's what vioxx that actually has been proven to cause death... ammoung many many other drugs that were all backed by not only the company that makes them and said to be safe, but also by the very governing body set up to protect us.....Ya right!
Shit I guess Kevin trudeau has blown some of my circuits!
lets get this ball rollin - flame, and dump on this one everyone I want to see how many of us are pro toxin!
anyone have any idea what causes cancer? When this thread has been piled on I'll give you all the cause and cure of cancers of all types "for real".....
I do know what science is you dont have to be so condescending. Did I ever claim apple cider to be a "wonder drug" or claim that its effects are backed by concrete scientific tests? no i didnt, I'm just sharing my experiences with it and a link that I found interesting. I never forced anything down peoples throats. 
lol i only just found out what "snake oil " meant ...apparently its an american term. Also tranquil soul, no need to nitpick...we are all reasonably intelligent here and know how to glean information as best we can for our individual needs.
Hey I remember telling you about ACV when we spoke last ....I have more to tell you.
