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Anyone smoke OC?

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sorry phrozen, moving on now.

Beans is a slang word for any kind of pill.

To be more precise, 80s are known as green beans up here but its gotten so much bigger than x/other pills that people just call em beans now. Theres even bean hoes:D
 
Since oxycodone is in the form of a hydrochloric salt, it can be converted to freebase. It would first have to be separated from the wax filler, which is easy to do. Then it would have to be basified with NaOH to neutralize the HCl bringing the oxycodone out in freebase form.


The reducing agent that will work depends upon the salt or acid salt functional group you are trying to remove. Functional groups based on higher atomic number metals are a bit more of a challenge (such a chromium). That is because that they can easily assume any of multiple valences, and the end reaction product could be quite toxic (multiple valences = heavy metal poisoning).

For example:


something-HCl + NaOH -> something[freebase] + NaCl + H2O
 
Mr Blonde said:
I think rave23 was being serious...he wants you to describe in detail how to smoke an OC so he can do it himself and post his results.

I won't hold my breath.
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yes, and i like to hear it from someone else than Mister-i-have-6-accounts-Antonio. If someone can come up and give me a detailed procedure on how to smoke an oxy i will try it one more time.
Also, i didn't burn the substance. It never got black at any point, it stayed off-white, light brown the whole time. in the end i set it on fire on purpose, to see if it would change the smell and taste of the smoke. It did!

Again, i am not biased. I just want an answer for myself. If it works, yay, if not, yay too, i am one of the rare and fortunate people that can get high when just eating a pill ;)
 
This thread is making less and less sense.

How can there be an epidemic of oxy smoking, as you told us, yet at the same time the drug is in such scarcity that prices are inflated WAY above the value they fetch around the rest of the US?

Your story is falling apart at the seams.
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
This doesn't make any sense dude.

If you have such a strong habit to Oxycodone, you wouldn't smoke them, you would inject them.
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that's not true. most people that are addicted to oxycontin don't inject them i'm almost positive. most eat and snort them. i don't think it's like heroin where most people move to injecting because it's so much cheaper. it's not THAT much cheaper injecting OCs than it is eating and snorting them considering the high bioavailability.
 
Youre right, he also sells coke and weed.. but his main profit comes from selling beans- He picks up 200 a time for 50$ a pop, no lie. I get fucking amazing quality bud and coke from this guy for prices youve probly never even heard of brah, hes a great connect.. even sells good quality X occasionally at only 2-3$ a pop. Beans are just expensive up here! face it!
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Either he's an idiot or your not telling the truth. No dealer is gonna pay $10,000 for 200 OC's which he's only gona get a profit of only $600 for after 200 transactions, when they could get a higher profit margin with less transactions with something more common like coke or even bud.

Heroin is quite common yes, but its shitty black tar. Ive smoked it and its no where near as fulfilling as smoking a bean. Cheaper yes, but money isnt an object to me or most people I know.
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Everyone is impacted by costs, no matter how rich you are. If getting high just once costs $80, and getting high once by another drug that lasts much longer and can be injected much easier, which is a usual administration to junkies, for less then $5, they will do that instead.

substitutes??? as far as smoking goes there is only heroin which sucks dick! tar atleast.
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You're clearly a troll who has no idea what they are talking about. Give up the lie, you've probably never even done oxy.

THIS IS NO LIE!! I dont know where youre from but everyone here has enough money to spend it on whatever the fuck they want and they choose to spend it on beans.
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It doesn't matter how much money you have, at a certain point everyone will buy something cheaper. If it was a $80 vs $60 difference, sure, people may stick the $80. But dude, heroin is usually preferred by most opiophiles, and most long-term heroin users prefer tar over powder - I know I do, I've done both many times and been IVing for over 4 years, and in my opinion tar is much better than powder heroin of higher purity and of oxycodone, because of it's duration and sleepier high.

Even the richest people, when faced with a vastly cheaper substitute, will go for it. It's just a rule of economic substitutes, and there are many, MANY papers proving this. You can be bill gates, but when faced with an over 800% difference in price and it's not portions of a cent, you will do the cheaper option.

Most opiate users prefer heroin - not to say that there aren't many oxycodone users, but my point is that people will not just continue wasting their money on smoking oxycodone which is so ineffective, when they could inject it, snort it, eat it, or do heroin instead.

hat's not true. most people that are addicted to oxycontin don't inject them i'm almost positive. most eat and snort them.
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Correct, most addicts still snort/eat the drug. Injection is still pretty extreme. But when you start reaching physical addictions where you spend hundreds of dollars a day, you will most certainly be inclined to IV - and you youself may not, but many others will, making certain there will be no mass number of people who would just continue to smoke.

I mean, most people don't do sublingual administration of marijuana, even though you can. Most people don't do rectal cocaine, but you can. et cetera, et cetera.

it's not THAT much cheaper injecting OCs than it is eating and snorting them considering the high bioavailability.
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True. Not many inject oxy, probably a much smaller ratio of snort/shoot compared to heroin, but there are still quite a few people out there that inject it. Point is, is that people won't just continue smoking oxycodone once they develop a habit given how ineffective it is.

I'm done here it's starting to rehash itself, you're points already seem ludicrous. The answer to the thread is no, we don't smoke OC.
 
Swerz said:
Where the hell did you get that? Im in so flo.. and i know a lot of users and abusers, and i havent heard shit out smoking roxi's.. they are commonly eaten and snorted, more than smoking.. Most people, out of common sense, would think smoking a pill is wasteful..

I mean come on, is the ''rush'' (if any) that pleasurable that you take a drug that lasts 4-8hours, and turn into an expensive hour long ''high''..

:p :p
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whoa baby...so0o hostile, i like it :) :) :) ;) ;) <3 <3

but yeah he is right
 
TheodoreRoosevelt said:
Either he's an idiot or your not telling the truth. No dealer is gonna pay $10,000 for 200 OC's which he's only gona get a profit of only $600 for after 200 transactions, when they could get a higher profit margin with less transactions with something more common like coke or even bud.


You're clearly a troll who has no idea what they are talking about. Give up the lie, you've probably never even done oxy.


Most opiate users prefer heroin - not to say that there aren't many oxycodone users, but my point is that people will not just continue wasting their money on smoking oxycodone which is so ineffective, when they could inject it, snort it, eat it, or do heroin instead.



Correct, most addicts still snort/eat the drug. Injection is still pretty extreme. But when you start reaching physical addictions where you spend hundreds of dollars a day, you will most certainly be inclined to IV - and you youself may not, but many others will, making certain there will be no mass number of people who would just continue to smoke.
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Yah, he only sells them 1 at a time... lolz. and 600??? if he makes 30 off of each pill multiplied by the number of pills(200) you would get 6000$. big difference. Lets see you make that kinda money selling chronic.

To end that, tonight im going to go pick up a pill and smoke it on camera for all of you.

Most? maybe... I dont. If I was shooting shit up I probably would but I havent gotten that desperate yet. Theyre definitely wasting their money now.. they may move on to H or whatever someway down the road but for now- Thousands of people are smoking oxycontin. Theres something about smoking a foily that makes shit more addicting.. Id have a really hard time getting myself to use a bean any other way than smoking without feeling ripped off.

Perhaps its just like the cycle of H addiction?? people start snorting, then moving to smoking, and finally they go IV? just a thought.
No ones talking about spending hundreds of dollars a day either im not sure where you got that, mcshroom and I talked about two occasions where someone spent hundreds of dollars in a day but I wasnt talking about on the daily.
 
Heres An Idea . From Now On Just Lock Any Snorting Eating And Smoking Oc Thread And Let Everybody Just Do Their Own Thing And Stop Aruging The Shit Out Of This Topic . The Fucking Thing Has Been Beaten To Death About 3 - 4 Times In The Past Month Already. They Never Go Anywhere And Always End In Up In He Said She Said Bullshit .
 
Mcshroom and Doghboy...those sound like snohomish county prices...am i right? King county got em lil cheaper...

back to the topic at hand...So many haters...Mr Blonde and his butt buddy Teddy and the other OC smokin Haters. just stick to your ways and us smokers will stick to our ways. But I gotta give props to the Australian wall lighter.
 
AntonioMontana said:
Everyone should read this article, shut your Aussie pie holes, and go smoke an OC.
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interesting... calling it the new crack is a bit much though.
 
Idi0tequ3 said:
its funny how some people sware it produces a high, and others just laugh at the accusation of smoking oxycodone. Personally i am neutral on the subject being as i have never been stupid enough to smoke any fuckin pills. I wish somebody could just prove somebody wrong or right for good, seeing as there have been at least 300 threads on this topic and it is still so heavily disputed.
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No need to laugh at people or call them stupid. No would would know if something would work until they either tried it or asked someone who has, right? :)
 
Take a peice of foil
Crush up half of the pill into powder OR cut into 4 peices.
Get a straw or pen and put it in your mouth
Put lighter under foil
inhale smoke

The black trail he was talking about is very accurate.
 
Yah, he only sells them 1 at a time... lolz. and 600??? if he makes 30 off of each pill multiplied by the number of pills(200) you would get 6000$. big difference. Lets see you make that kinda money selling chronic.
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Okay, he buys 200 pills @ 50 per = $10,000. Sells them @ 80 per, so that's $16,000 revenue. But there's no way he's gonna be able to sell all 200 at that price, no one is that stupid to buy OC80s like that for $80. Even $50 per OC80 is too much. Most people pay about $20-50 for an OC80 for a single, not wholesale.

Thousands of people are smoking oxycontin.
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Now there aren't. Dude, please quit fucking making this shit up. You have no evidence to back this up, all you have is you're own experiences and a couple of your friends. That doesn't amount to 1000s. There is no reason it would catch on - people either eat or snort oxycontin, or inject it. Given the price of your OC connection, people are more likely just gonna do heroin instead given how much cheaper it is.

Seriously, what you say is completely devoid of common sense. Can you understand this at all? I don't care if you think it's great, it doesn't make any economic sense at all. No one is gonna pay $80 for a high regularly when they can pay $10 for the same strength of a high from tar heroin.

Mr Blonde and his butt buddy Teddy and the other OC smokin Haters. just stick to your ways and us smokers will stick to our ways. But I gotta give props to the Australian wall lighter.
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What's with the flames? I'm trying to use common sense and economic theory to justify my argument, so you resort to petty name calling? Are you so hostile because I've been able to completely destroy your weak argument?

I'm sure you guys aren't highschoolers right, because only grown-up mature people with a history in the dark underworld of drug use and addiction would resort to name calling when someone doesn't believe them. God forbid I know what I'm talking about.

Another news article, this one coming about a DOCTOR that treats ADDICTION. Tell me he's lying too:

http://www.knbc.com/health/13992347/...KEN= 68219856
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This is yet another bad news article.

I don't know about you, but personally I've done alot of college research and written journal articles and know how to do formal research.

This article does not count as any sort of proof at all. Again, it fails because it uses "WEASAL WORDS". Look up what weasal words are, I've been kind enough to read your articles.

Some doctors are calling it the new crack cocaine -- drug abusers are getting high by smoking the powerful painkiller OxyContin.
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Some doctors? Who are these doctors? This is a vague statement and counts for nothing. It clearly shows that whoever wrote this article is an idiot, and just as biased as the government when it comes to anti-drug propaganda. This is yet another sensationalist piece of paper. This is a really bad news article, it really is.

This article holds as much water as me saying "Some college graduates are saying Oxycontin smells like pee-pee and that only people who have been raped partake in it's use".

It doesn't cite who these supposed ghost doctors are, and doesn't amount to anything but heresy - he says she says bullshit.

Just because one drug user has smoked oxycontin, does not mean anything. It doesn't even say if the drug users got high from smoking oxycontin, it just says someone did it.

Look, this following statement is just as credible as the point made in the article: "Some drug users are now taking large doses of dramamine to fuel massive shoplifting sprees".

Please stop this. Oxycontin is extremely ineffective when smoked, which would prevent any large number people of using it, considering that it is extremely effective orally, snorted, and injected, and considering that heroin is extremely cheap, easily available, and effective snorted, smoked, and injected.

Also, the idea that large numbers of people buying OC80's at $80 per pill is ridiculous too, considering that heroin, marijuana, cocaine, and MDMA are all easily available on the west coast for much cheaper prices. While I know that Oxycontin users love their oxycontin, it has been proven in economic studies that cocaine, valium, alcohol, and marijuana can be substitutes if the price is right.

http://www.ub.es/ere/cafeseminari/texto/submissionJOEP102004complete.pdf
 
theodore. i thought the price discussions were over? but just to end it... it's not as unheard of as you say for people to pay 80$ for an OC80. i actually think it's actually kinda common for people to pay a dollar per mg. it's expensive.. yes. and most of the time it's cheaper but not as cheap as you say. perhaps you have great connects and good for you but most people can't get an OC80 for 25 dollars. i've never seen an OC80 go for anything close to 25. and so what if weed, alcohol, MDMA, even cocaine is cheaper.. if people want OC then they'll get OC. why would an OC addict get MDMA just because it's cheaper... they don't want MDMA, they want OC? and a lot of times people who are getting OC are afraid to try heroin and so it doesn't matter if it's cheaper. not to mention that a lot of people that get OC might not have access to the heroin anyway.

and even if it sounds foreign to you that people smoke OC's it doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. by the look of this board it seems more than ever it is possible that there are circles around the US that do smoke OCs, albeit not as commonly as eating, snorting or injecting. i don't understand it anymore than you do but that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen and you can't prove it false just because you've never seen it. and have you ever tried it? how do you know it's extremely ineffective? AND even if it is that still doesn't mean that people don't do it. maybe they don't know any better and like the quick onset. not to sound rude... i just think you're being a tad judgmental on the whole thing.
 
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