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Anyone smoke OC?

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Even if you can smoke it, why would you want to? The bioavailability is lower than just taking it orally, no?
 
if your going to smoke oxy, dont smoke the salt form....

heat plus oxycodone hcl does not equal very much oxycodone vapor most is destroyed while heating... just like how most sensible people know that smoking cocaine doesn't do much...

now smoking crack is very strong... whats the difference? the crack has had the hcl ion hacked off of the cocaine molecule... without this nasty little ion on there the vaporization point becomes much farther away than the point where you get decomposition from the heat...

oxycodone works on the same principals...

i guarantee that if you have the freebase form of oxy and vaporize in a light bulb its sure as hell not going to be placebo...
 
phrozen said:
Here we go again...
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Jah help us... 8)

Like Jamaica said, first of all, you wouldn't want to smoke the salt (-hcl), you'd want to have oxycodone freebase. As Phrozen said, you'd want a shitload...unless you came across a bottle of uncompounded, pure oxycodone hcl, I really don't see anyone doing this (with such a high oral bioavailability) with a few pills... :\
 
I don't know that just because oxycodone is a salt it means it's not easily smokeable.

It's not like every single salt is hard to smoke, and it's freebase form is easy to smoke. That's just crack/coke...

Maybe it does apply to oxy, but there is no 'rule' or whatever how salts are harder to smoke.
 
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I don't know that just because oxycodone is a salt it means it's not easily smokeable.
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yes, it does... i know enough of the chemistry to know that the salt forms of drugs tend to be harder to smoke than the freebased forms... companies use the salt form because generally the salt is a solid while the freebase is more of a liquid, crack being an exception to the rule....

It's not like every single salt is hard to smoke, and it's freebase form is easy to smoke. That's just crack/coke...
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DMT lacks the ion which makes it freebase... DMT is generally smoked. unless you want to inject it and then you use the HCl salt because the salts are generally water soluble.

Maybe it does apply to oxy, but there is no 'rule' or whatever how salts are harder to smoke.
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not sure if the rule has a name or not... but there is a general trend in that most drugs are easier to smoke in the freebased form or at least more practical given the fact that hacking off the ion changes the decomp point to something farther away than the vaporization point than it was in the salt form...

This also applies to morphine sulphate....

Not sure of the validity but ive heard of some cigarette companies gassing the tobacco with ammonia... to freebase the nicotine to make it easier to vaporize...

i don't think there are any salts that are easier to smoke than the freebase... can anyone prove me wrong? i really would like to know if im mistaken...

heroin comes to mind but the freebase would still probably be easier to vaporize with minimal decomposition... and i know fent is smokable but i think its in its freebase form to begin with...
 
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Triforce said:
you know guys... there ARE pills that are smoked just as much as taking orally. the Yaba pills in Thailand. those are the only ones though.


here's proof - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JgHevMAf4M
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Ah, you're right. Heroin #3 was originally a pill which contained caffeine, quinine, strychnine and heroin hcl(among other things). It was originally popular in China, specifically HK. Once heroin use caught on over there, people tried smoking them, as they were traditionally smoking opiates(opium) for quite some time before that. It worked well, since the caffeine lowered the hcl's melting point. Soon after, the pills weren't being manufactured anymore. That's when the illicit operations mimicked the pills composition, by using the same adulterants. Anyway, #3 is rare as hell now, even in Asia. Oh, and the original pills were very colorful.


So yeah, there is a history of pill smoking...
 
wow first thread like this ive ran into...smoking o.c? no i wouldn't, i might try it if i had 300 oc80, but DOES NOT seem the like a great M.O.A to me...and to most people. the one time i've done oxycontin it was OC 80 and they were only ten bucks a pop at the time, but those days are long gone, i cant get any opiate pills except suboxone
 
Idi0tequ3 said:
its funny how some people sware it produces a high, and others just laugh at the accusation of smoking oxycodone. Personally i am neutral on the subject being as i have never been stupid enough to smoke any fuckin pills. I wish somebody could just prove somebody wrong or right for good, seeing as there have been at least 300 threads on this topic and it is still so heavily disputed.
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i do not doubt for a second that smoking an OC produces something resembling an opiate high.

we educated drug users laugh at those who would do such a stupid thing(yes, i said it first IF YOU SMOKE UR OXYCODONE YOU ARE UNEDUCATED) because its a complete waste of drug.

especially for such an expensive drug. also its not exactly healthy.

this is a great analogy for those dumb asses who smoke their oxycontin for whatever reason....

i have to buy two cases of beer for myself when i feel like getting an alcohol buzz because i drink the top 3oz of beer outta each can before then throwing them out
 
My friend had a few 80"s and asked me if I wanted to smoke one with him. I took about 10 hits and each hit lasted about 1 minute. What a fucking waste of a good pill. I never care to try it again.. I take my script by eating a 20 and snorting a 20 and ahhh I feel great. Fuck the smoking shit method..
I always wondered who the fuck decided to smoke a pill anyway.
By the way,I never really got that high anyway. I think the rush came from holding my breath...=D LOL
 
I don't see why people claim that this wouldn't work. I have a friend who is quite quite experienced with opiates (IV heroin, more oc80s in a day than I could afford in a year, aka 'not dealing'). He absolutely LOVED the feeling of smoking oxy.

I know this is a harm reduction forum, but please, don't smoke pills ever for any reason. Please.
 
Can you smoke oxycodone? Well, it's waste but yes. Can you smoke SR pills of the stuff... don't go there, who knows what your actually taking in. Apply acetic anhydride to oxycodone (better propanoic anhydride or EVEN better cinnamyl anhydride) and THEN you can easily smoke the freebase (which is a solid) just as brown heroin can be smoked.
 
you know guys... there ARE pills that are smoked just as much as taking orally. the Yaba pills in Thailand. those are the only ones though.


here's proof - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JgHevMAf4M
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Lol at that video...'Methamphetamine is designed to trick your brain!!!! Oh Noez!!1!1!'

i don't think there are any salts that are easier to smoke than the freebase... can anyone prove me wrong? i really would like to know if im mistaken...
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The only one I can think of is methamphetamine HCl, only because the freebase is oily and shit (like you said), so it would be a hassle to smoke. With the crystals, you just throw 'em in your pipe and go for it!
 
Idi0tequ3 said:
its funny how some people sware it produces a high, and others just laugh at the accusation of smoking oxycodone. Personally i am neutral on the subject being as i have never been stupid enough to smoke any fuckin pills. I wish somebody could just prove somebody wrong or right for good, seeing as there have been at least 300 threads on this topic and it is still so heavily disputed.
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Multiple threads have made me attempt this. I have smoked out of a meth pipe, and off of foil. About 20-30 mgs each time. I felt a little light headed for about 5 minutes. Smoking pills is bullshit. It doesnt work. At least not very well. You would have to chief 400mgs to even feel a thing if you were stilkl around to feel the effects. Please don't anybody go and smoke 5 80's, or 10 40's or anything near that.
 
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