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Anyone HATE ecstasy?

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I can say the same thing, apart from the horrible comedowns, anxiety, and generalized stupidity, I personally find E to be a bit of a "fake" feeling. I can also say I've learned a lot on acid or shrooms, even when the trip was far from pleasurable, it was more complex, more complete.

I actually can't even stand being around a bunch of people on pills, ranting on about how great everyone is with distorted faces and acting like a bunch of Idiots(in my opinion, of course).
 
Originally posted by swifty I love E because for a while you can talk the fake shit and everyone believes you, for 5 or 6 hours you can totally forget about how ordinary the world is and get lost in your own little world of perfection, where everyone listens to you and everyone has time for you, where people you don't know will talk to you without looking at you strange, and everyone smiles and laughs and jokes....
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Exactly. E allows you to feel on top of the world. You love everything and everyone and they love you in return. It's the ultimate escapism. I love that moment when you can shout 'I am god' and everything is beautiful and perfect. :)

Hmm...the elusive high....getting harder to catch these days....damn tolerance levels....
 
psy_taco said:
Don't get me wrong, I love the drug but if it isn't respected it is a fucking nasty substance. Unlike pot, pills have a very large negative side.
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Pot can have a very large negative side.

People moaning about the "fakeness" of E - dare I say it? "Jaded"? Yes, it feels forced but many drugs aren't subtle. I don't have any objections to 'forced' euphoria. You didn't get anything out of it? I've gotten a lot out of it. Maybe not as profound as psychedelics but I wasn't expecting that from it. Not everything in the world has to be deep and profound.

I still love it.
 
i donts exactly hate xtc, but when i get on the pills all i feel is sad and alone. :( mainly because, i think, because the two people i 'discovered' xtc with will no longer talk to me and all i want to do more than anything is be friends with them again. whoops *straightens mask* musta slipped a little then.
 
XTC or more like MDXX rocks my socks..

I love the shit !

And the day i " loose the magic " well grrrr. i hope it never happens !

bring on the 5-htp, Magnesium, and Vit C !!!

Everyones Diff with drugs, agreed !

all drugs give FAKE perceptions on reality dont they ?
 
I can't really compare it to anything (I've only taken MDMA, weed, erimin 5 and of course booze) but I have to say that some of the highs I have got from ecstasy are simply amazing. I never knew that it was possible to feel so happy, and although I myself have abused it I feel that in moderation ecstasy can be a great part of life.

And to people who think that it is all fake. I've said and done things when on alcohol that I wouldn't have said otherwise, its just that ecstasy is so much more powerful (in my opinion). I also have a superb friend at the moment thanks to ecstasy, it allowed me to get close to a guy that I never used to talk to, and we really are similar.

Don't get me wrong, I see where you're coming from when you say it is quite "fake", but then again any high that is chemically induced is in my opinion.

Peace
 
the only thing i hate about X is the comedown. Other than that i would marry a big bag filled with pills if i could. The best feeling definately has to be weed + X. Awesome CEV's, emotional and energetic. I often get all 3 in 1 night and i looooooooooooooooove it.
 
personally i think its great (in moderation of course) but a few of my friends think that it is absolute crap and are always telling me that speed gives you a better high and e is like a weak hit of speed.............these are ppl who have only had a few pills so the magic should be there unless they have some abnormal seritonan issuse that im not aware of. more love for me i say
 
i think the comedown can be the best part. I love it.
It all depends where you are, who your with and what your doing.
For me, there is nothing better than being at a freinds house, talking shit and being off your chops and knowing whatever you do, no-one will hold it against you. Unless you ask them of course.

But on topic, My girlfreind isn't a real fan.
She feels exhausted and gets really moody, and wants to do nothing but lie down and try and sleep.
Strange i know, but she burnt herself out when she was younger. Actually she kind of despises me because I've only been pilling for nearly 2 years now, and she's feeling it's getting close to 'the end' of her MDMA taking antics.
 
I DO NOT understand why people call e FAKE. Intense love/happyness is a balance of chemicals in your brain and nothing else. You can trigger it by winning the lottery or mdma or whatever you want, at the end of the day it doesn't matter, if you can't love the world around you while your on e than your not in the state of mind to take it.

I've done alot of e and I've never had a comedown so I'm the last person to hate e :)
 
^ its fake because that *much* chemical changes in your brain is not normal, You cant produce the intense peaker OMG im so high crap from winning the lottery. Its fake

I used to love XTC (who didnt right) but over the past 9 months or so Ive really grown to loathe the drug.

I mostly (as mentioned above) hate the fakeness, I hate seeing people running around grinning ear-to-ear, saying things they would never say Straight. I hate that it can turn you into a different person, even if for a few hours that person might be a better one.
I hate seeing that snap back to reality, for me I would rather just stay in it

call me crazy:\
 
it isnt really my drug of choice that's for sure... always hated the come downs and just the overall terrible feeling the next day. another thing it makes alot of people look like fucking retards... with their jaws sticking all the way out and shit making ass's of themselves..
 
MDMA is just like a quick injection of perfection and happiness.. its not a drug to BE happy.. It can only show you what your true potential is. However im not a big fan of e due to the superficiality of the experience
 
I honestly think people mean it when they say it on E, superficial or not, I'd rather they meant it when they said it rather than sober people saying something superficial that they never mean.
 
I don't think its fake at all - it's more like you don't care about the consequences of what you say coz you just HAVE to say it...I think it makes you more aware of your true feelings...If you're thinking it on E it would have been on your mind before then, but you didn't have the balls or whatever to say it...
 
swifty said:
I love E because for a while you can talk the fake shit and everyone believes you, for 5 or 6 hours you can totally forget about how ordinary the world is and get lost in your own little world of perfection, where everyone listens to you and everyone has time for you, where people you don't know will talk to you without looking at you strange, and everyone smiles and laughs and jokes....

How the fuck could you hate that ???

It's the kind of questions a chronic tweeker would ask (no offence to tweekers but it's filled with the classic cynicism).
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AMen to that brother , thats spot on.!
 
swifty said:
I honestly think people mean it when they say it on E, superficial or not, I'd rather they meant it when they said it rather than sober people saying something superficial that they never mean.
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8o8( :\
 
I really think people should just take this drug for what it is.....it's just a fun party drug which allows you to explore a side of yourself for a few hours that you normally wouldn't sober. lets you into a cool place to escape for a little while, that's it. It lets you connect with your friends in a fun, special way....enhances the music, the atmosphere, you can dance your ass off. But we all know at the end of the night, there's a comedown...that's something we should accept w/ it...there are bad sides to this drug so I guess when they outweigh the good stuff, there's no point to it..ecstacy just a great form of escapism for a little while once in a while, all drugs have a bad side, so when used in excess of course that fun is going to diminish...
 
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