johanneschimpo
Bluelighter
^ It should be noted that week on sub and a year on sub (or however long) are quite different.
If you want to prove me wrong, be my guest. If not, why try to be a smart ass?
If the fact that I know what I'm talking about angers you so much, pick up a fucking book. Don't hate on me because I have an education.
By the way, there already is a religion based on the life and travels of JC.
God damn.. what a bunch of pricks there are on this board.
TELL ME WHAT "EXACTLY" IS WRONG IN MY OP??
Are you honestly debating that 8mg of Suboxone can take 36 hours to stop having a blocking effect?? Go ahead and be my guest then.
I have years of experience (unfortunately) with opiates and I know what the fuk works and doesn't. You can argue with me all you want about the little dumb shit I may have gotten wrong (example 2 and a half = 22mg) but what difference does any of that dumb shit make with the point of my post??!!!
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO ARGUE OR DISAGREE WITH ME THAT SUBOXONE TAKES FOREVER TO GET OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM.. BE MY GUEST. WASTE YOUR PILLS OR MONEY. I EXPERIENCED FIRST HAND WHAT THAT SHIT DOES AND I'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING THE ON OFF WITH BUPE FOR YEARS.
EVEN IF I GOT A FEW STUPID THINGS WRONG, THE MAIN POINT OF MY POST IS CORRECT. IF YOU TAKE 8MG OF BUPE.. BE PREPARED FOR IT TO HAVE A BLOCKING EFFECT FOR 36 HOURS... ESPECIALLY IF YOU'VE BEEN ON IT FOR SEVERAL DAYS AT 8MG A DAY.
IF YOU TAKE 2 8MG BUPES ON THE SAME DAY, EVEN IF THOSE ARE THE ONLY SUBOXONE YOU'VE TAKEN FOR A WHILE, IT WILL DOUBLE THE TIME IT TAKES TO CLEAR THE BLOCKING EFFECT.
FOR ANYONE ELSE WHO'S DOUBTING ME.. IT IS NOW FRIDAY MORNING AND I HAVE FINALLY FELT THE SUBOXONE STARTING TO WEAR OFF BECAUSE I'M IN SLIGHT WITHDRAWL.
IT TOOK FROM MONDAY AT 2PM TO THIS MORNING FOR 20MG OF BUPE TO STOP HAVING A BLOCKING EFFECT. I DON'T CARE IF KNOW IT ALL'S LIKE JC WANT TO ARGUE WITH ME.. THAT'S WHAT I JUST EXPERIENCED.
HAHAHA Rediculous. You are all So off. I think your just afraid to try jsut taking some dope cause youve heard it "might wast some dope"
I swear to you, (and Ive been on bupe for almost 2 years) that I can take a HALF or a whole norco, lortab, or percocet, merely a couple (3 hours) after taking a low sublinguled dose AND FEEL not only pain releif but the HIGH. no joke. Im not even fucking around. Apperently, since I was wise and never upped my dose up into the HUGE amounts (12, 16, 24, 32, 40) I never took over 8 mg in my life and I usualy take 4...........So apperently my tolerance for regular agonists HAS dropped, or its jsut the synergy of the bupe and the hydro becasue the dose of bupe is low enough apperently it doesnt block it I just get extra high.
of course Im a rare breed anyways,..........I get a HIGH off every dose of sub I take, especialy 4 mg will have me buzzing HARD every time : ) good shit
also-Ive found that the whole "less is more" theory is COMPLETE bullshit. I belived it until I actualy got up the balls (one year after I was prescribed my dose) to ACTUALY take my prescribed dose...........Ive never done it in my life ive always stuck with 2-6 mg. im prescribed 24.
well I took 16 a few days back and was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fuckign high asnd felt SO amazing that i think the less is more people are Completely dillusional.and 8 mg sub holds me a million times better than 2 mg.
and 16 mg gets me high AND holds me the full 24 hours unlike 2-4 mg.
id say 6-16 mg sublingualed is the Perfect dose depending on tolerance but yea I jsut wante to say that for ME More is Definaly more Less is NOT more if I take just 2-3 im still sick as a dog. if I take 8 I feel great. 16 and im home sweet home its like doin dope. I can ONLY imagine how 24 mg feels like as ive been on the shit over a year and ive still never taken that much.
also Im very happy that so many of you can get by on 1 mg bupe. I WISH I COULD!!!!!
I also wish I could get high off a couple norcos. but that doesnt mean Im going to and that doesnt mean that 2 hydros works better than 8 just becasue it happens to be enough for one of you.
that is all. if you cant take my points of view and experiments without flaming me and basicaly calling me a retard than you have no busniess being on a site that is SUPPOSEDLY about education.
didnt mean to be a dick, but I asked kindly not to be flamed becasue I KNEW and KNOW that smoking pills is terribly unhealthy. I know this. Yet you still flame me anyways
peace
I remember I was bored one day and made a tally sheet for a drug with a 24 hour half-life (in perfect, non-real conditions), and I'm pretty sure the buildup asymptotically reaches twice the daily dose. I don't have the paper and I don't care to do 10 seconds of work to check, but I think that was the result. Like 50mg of methadone a day would eventually build up a resevoir "equivalent" to (its not really equivalent) 100mg steady state.
Eh, who cares though, since it doesn't reflect real life.