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annoying sayings from non-drug users

Tranced said:
I think the fact that SSRI's block MDMA, the love drug, is indicative of something highly dodgy.

Every single person I've ever asked if SSRI's have helped them, the response has been the same; "I don't know".

But they get withdrawals if they stop. If they mention they don't work, the dose gets upped.

Dodgy, sketchy.
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Precisely. But that's ofc the right kind of addiction so the system has no problem with that. But opioids? Oh that's the wrong kind of addiction because people are too peaceful on that substance. Also, the system wants you to be chronically stressed and depressed and opioids are the best medication against that. Better prohibit it and tell everyone how bad it is because "uh uh, look addiction 'n shiet". Never mind that SSRIs get you addicted too...nothing to see here, move along.
Energy harvester is all I say...this system is an energy harvester.
 
Hexenstahl said:
No I did not CATEGORICALLY condemn antidepressants. This is what I wrote: "Tricyclical antidepressants on the other hand have actually CAUSED suicides"
Did I say they always cause it? Nope. You're reading something into my words I haven't said lol.
I can't help but feel like sometimes you're just looking for ways to start an argument.
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I really am not looking to start arguments, and actually have the impression we agree on most things. But to me it seems both prejudiced and irresponsible to throw out a statement like 'xyz drug causes suicides' without adding any qualifiers, so that's why I responded. Especially because it seems to be something of a trend with illicit drug users to discredit any 'conventional' treatment on principle, which hardly helps our credibility or public image.

PS I'm also autistic so I might not always get all the nuances right which people attempt to convey.
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
I really am not looking to start arguments, and actually have the impression we agree on most things. But to me it seems both prejudiced and irresponsible to throw out a statement like 'xyz drug causes suicides' without adding any qualifiers, so that's why I responded. Especially because it seems to be something of a trend with illicit drug users to discredit any 'conventional' treatment on principle, which hardly helps our credibility or public image.

PS I'm also autistic so I might not always get all the nuances right which people attempt to convey.
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www.bmj.com

Antidepressants increase the risk of suicide, violence and homicide at all ages

www.bmj.com www.bmj.com

There you go. You can say it if it's true.

Just remember truth, justice, and the american way.
 
Tranced said:
www.bmj.com

Antidepressants increase the risk of suicide, violence and homicide at all ages

www.bmj.com www.bmj.com

There you go. You can say it if it's true
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Certain medications help some people and not others. A lot of bad outcomes happen when someone is prescribed a medication they're not a good candidate for. I have never said medications can't have unwanted and detrimental side-effects, that's a risk with literally ANY treatment.
Tranced said:
Just remember truth, justice, and the american way.
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Erm, WTF
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
But to me it seems both prejudiced and irresponsible to throw out a statement like 'xyz drug causes suicides' without adding any qualifiers
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Look here is what you need to understand: just because I don't mention every single contingent factor in existence when I talk about a certain substance, doesn't mean that I make a generalizing statement about it. Some things must be read between the lines.

TheUltimateFixx said:
I'm also autistic so I might not always get all the nuances right which people attempt to convey.
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In that case I apologize for accusing you of wanting to start a fight.
 
TheUltimateFixx said:
Certain medications help some people and not others. A lot of bad outcomes happen when someone is prescribed a medication they're not a good candidate for. I have never said medications can't have unwanted and detrimental side-effects, that's a risk with literally ANY treatment.

Erm, WTF
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If all the corpses buried around here were to stand up all at once, we’d have one hell of a population problem.
 
^yeah sorry.
Tranced said:
Every single person I've ever asked if SSRI's have helped them, the response has been the same; "I don't know".

But they get withdrawals if they stop. If they mention they don't work, the dose gets upped.

Dodgy, sketchy.
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They certainly worked for me, but temporarily,... - and even after a decade without them I cannot come anywhere close to replicating my original 'super response'

dodge and sketch in spades. I wish I had done MDMA instead.
 
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A suboxone doctor I used to see compared his addiction to Pepsi to my addiction to heroin. He says that's how he has such a good understanding of addiction, completely serious.

Also when people tell you that you'd get over it and be able to stay clean if you would find a hobby like working out. In fact they say you can also cure mental illness with exercise...
 
Tranced said:
It's bee in my head since I posted it. I absolutely love it, it makes him less foreboding for a time.
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I always found him to be a laughable, comical character. He's like a bond villain or something. His head looks somewhat like a deformed, ugly penis.
Can't take this fucker serious. Can't even be really angry at this guy because he is so pathetic. It's obvious he is working for much higher ups. Acts publically as if he runs the show, but I can see right through it. He ain't the shot caller. Now that's it, we should stick to the topic.
 
If anybody says anything, then just say you're not a drug user and ask if they find you annoying. They'll be so flumaxed thay you're actually being on topic thay that they'll have to leave the thread. Thats what Im going to do anyway.

Yeah lets face it Klaus Shwab is beyond bell end, but I've been pondering recently that he's clearly a middle man too. He's proper into dystopia isn't he. Maybe it's like getting excited about fantasy novels for him. What a wanker.
 
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