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AMT - First time - Beautiful and Strange Concepts!

I finally managed to obtain a friend who has some AMT. I took 5mg, then 5mg 2 hours later during a day at work where I felt quite depressed and lethargic, mostly due to some reports from fastandbulbous about its value as an antidepressant in low doses. Unfortunately, the stimulation contributed to my anxiety and I had a more difficult day than I otherwise would have. After work I took .5mg of clonazepam and some kratom and that anxiety faded into a pleasant evening.

However, I look forward to trying it again in a much better setting, such as a day outdoors hiking and bike riding. I may try 20mg though at that time.

I do have to say however that low-dose DOC (~1mg) felt much gentler in its stimulation to me. But this could be because of my setting, as I mentioned.
 
Sorry to read that your introduction to AMt was so unfortunate.

Yeah, setting's crucial! I wouldn't want to come up on any psychedelic while in my work environment - particularly when this environment is unstable and not to my satisfaction at that time - but even just in general, I just wouldn't.

AMT may very well work as an antidepressant but I found 7.5mg to have a somewhat unsettling come-up if there's any need to keep up appearances etc. .. far too truth-druggie in how it feels to me for it to effectively mask any misery. There's a path there to be walked until any relief of misery can come, and I believe I would have felt anxious if I had taken it in your situtation today. Not the setting to let go!

Well, I find AMT to be much more benign than DOC and much more resonant in the heart chakra, opening me up to my sadness as well as my loving feelings, making "it" all much more acceptable ultimately, even if at times obviously difficult. This at a 35mg trial in very valued company at a difficult time in my life.

But yeah, it could be that the old saying holds true... "One man's poison is another man's remedy." Or did that go the other way round?

Set and setting in mind, and my mind and heart open, I will even consider ingesting DOC again, but certainly no more than 0.5mg. At 2mg, the bastard has just been a bastard to me, twice. Just like his cousin DOI at what I think may have been 5mg.
 
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Sorry that you took my glowing reports of AMT's antidepressant activity to mean it would be good at work. Whenever I've used AMT as an antidepressant it's always been in situations where you don't need to maintain 'masks' for the benefit of other people. After taking 5mg for several days, the psychedelic edge is reduced and it is possible to interact with the straight world without being stressed, but work is the sort of place I'd not consider suitable for psychedelics (Speed is the work drug - for obvious reasons - but I have taken others at work, but not psychedelics. The closest I've ever gotten to that is having a smoke of skunk on a lunchtime). Most other drugs are bearable, but psychedelics are special and not something I'd want to taint with the stink of work! (although I did once do some smack & went to work - got a fair bit done and was in a good humour. Shitty drugs for shitty situations!).

After reading the bit about AMT and LSD, it sounds like an intruiging mix - maybe will put it on my 'to do' list since my reconciliation with LSD (after nearly 2 decades of avoidance) a couple of months ago. People seem to be mentioning DOC & AMT in the same breath a lot; while DOC is a psychedelic I don't mind (I even like low dose DOB, which a lot of people seem to despise) and have had reasonable experiences on, it's a buit 'rough around the edges' and is somewhat crude in my opinion. AMT on the other hand is one of those few psychedelics with one foot in the entactogen camp and the other in the full psychedelic camp and is vastly superior to DOC (the others are MDA more entactogen than psychedelic and DOM, more psychedelic than entactogen) despite the body load issues with higher doses - then again, DOC is hardly a subtle, smooth drug
 
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One of my friends just tried that combo... 55mg AMT oral, 15 up the nose, then a tab and half of acid. He said is was excellent, like 1.5 grams of cubes, some dexedrine, and some acid, and profoundly visual.

I still haven't tried AMT. I've been meaning to, and I have a little bit of it, but I'm still chickenshit from my horror experiences with the long lasting DOxs, which I didn't like at all. Soon, I guess.
 
Heh, I should have known better, really. Anyway, I'm going to try a good dose of AMT (25mg or so) soon, the next time I manage to get a day to spend outside I think. My 5+5mg experience at work was definitely annoyingly stimulating and rough. It felt much rougher than any dose of DOC I've taken, even after work was over and I was relaxing at home. Quite stressful. It also made my nose run profusely, leading to chapping by the end of the day, and my eyes were watering almost constantly. The yawns were also quite prevalent.
 
The uneasy stimulation I felt makes me a little nervous. I can't decide if it was psychosomatic or if I find the stimulation from AMT uncomfortable for some reason. I'd hate to be stuck in day-long discomfort.
 
I still haven't tried AMT. I've been meaning to, and I have a little bit of it, but I'm still chickenshit from my horror experiences with the long lasting DOxs, which I didn't like at all. Soon, I guess.
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I don't find AMT at all like the DOx compounds; OK you're more likely to end up farting etc due to gastrointestinal effects, but the stimulation from AMT is more like that from MDMA than that from amphetamine


The uneasy stimulation I felt makes me a little nervous. I can't decide if it was psychosomatic or if I find the stimulation from AMT uncomfortable for some reason. I'd hate to be stuck in day-long discomfort.
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Sounds more psychosomatic from being trapped at work during the come up. If you think yourself into an anxiety type situation them AMT can prolong it (a la MDA/MDMA as mentioned above), but if you spend the first 2-3 hours in a comfortable place (mentally & physically) then it's a pretty easy going drug

There was an episode of 'Six Feet Under' where the daughter, Claire, takes AMT and I think it pretty accurately reflected it's nature - somewhere between MD(M)A & LSD
 
nuke said:
One of my friends just tried that combo... 55mg AMT oral, 15 up the nose, then a tab and half of acid. He said is was excellent, like 1.5 grams of cubes, some dexedrine, and some acid, and profoundly visual.
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55mg oral + 15mg snorted? Yikes. I guess some people like to high dose with AMT.

I gave my friend ~10-15mg of AMT at a festival last summer, which he took with the rinsings of an empty bottle of liquid acid (so no real idea how much that was!) and he had a total blast.

There was an episode of 'Six Feet Under' where the daughter, Claire, takes AMT and I think it pretty accurately reflected it's nature - somewhere between MD(M)A & LSD
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Highly amusing.. especially when Clare's friend is running her hands under the tap going "oh my god.. this feels amazing... you guys have got to take a shower with me!". Why doesn't that happen more often when I've given girls AMT? Sigh.
 
My friend is a hardhead, his doses of 2c-e and 2c-t-2 are usually above 30mg... And often he'll drop some pills or something too. The only time I ever saw him buckle a bit was on 5mg of DOI. So, if you're thinking of trying that anyone, definitely tone it down a bit. ;)
 
Highly amusing.. especially when Clare's friend is running her hands under the tap going "oh my god.. this feels amazing... you guys have got to take a shower with me!". Why doesn't that happen more often when I've given girls AMT? Sigh.
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Funnily enough, most people I've talked to who have had AMT have said that they've been approached by people with an interest in 'getting it on' more often than with just about any other drug. I think it's something that is reflected in the body language regarding asthetic appreciation while on AMT; as I've mentioned before about my politically incorrect friend and his 'even the ugly lasses have something going for them' type sentiments - if you go around looking at everyone as if they're wonderously beuatiful then you're much more likely to have it reciprocated. Between the best two asthetic enhancers (IMO mescaline & AMT), I've had more chances to score - pre meeting my other half days - but sometimes I was just too caught up in the conversation with friends to act upon it.

Not only does it allow you to see the beauty in others, it brings out the latent beauty in you (think it's down to the 'heavy' eyelids look and the insistant, but not manic - like say LSD - smile). I'm pretty certain it was mescaline or AMT I'd eaten when I first met my other half and I'm sure it helped somewhat!
 
Well, next weekend I should be trying it out for real. I think I'll check out 30mg during a day in the forest. I'm also thinking about taking a dose of methylone at the same time due to hearing about it being a nice way to transition into AMT. I'd be wary if methylone still made me crash back to earth after hour two, but fortunately it doesn't seem to do this anymore, especially when I've got appropriate stimulation to keep me occupied.
 
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Well, next weekend I should be trying it out for real. I think I'll check out 30mg during a day in the forest. I'm also thinking about taking a dose of methylone at the same time due to hearing about it being a nice way to transition into AMT. I'd be wary if methylone still made me crash back to earth after hour two, but fortunately it doesn't seem to do this anymore, especially when I've got appropriate stimulation to keep me occupied.
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I'd just try the AMT on it's own... 30mg should give you a nice high, and personally I find that around 30mg+ the come up is quite intense enough on it's own, albeit drawn out over 2-3 hours although I often find AMT to be pretty lethargic, so you might find yourself sitting around in the forest alot - so bring supplies to keep you entertained.

Funnily enough, most people I've talked to who have had AMT have said that they've been approached by people with an interest in 'getting it on' more often than with just about any other drug.
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Interesting - I've actually not done AMT that many times in a mixed social setting - mostly just with my other half at home.
 
I find AMT to be somewhat of a social enhancer. I do agree with f&b about its enhancement of the way people appear. I will have to say that the sex on AMT is outstanding. If I were you I would just try it out on its own. I think you may have had a sketchy experience due to your setting. Its generally pretty benign stuff. I think my favorite dose is ~25mg.
 
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There was an episode of 'Six Feet Under' where the daughter, Claire, takes AMT and I think it pretty accurately reflected it's nature - somewhere between MD(M)A & LSD
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I've seen that eppisode too (I love Claire! :D ). It certainly got me interested in the drug. Altho at the time I didn't even realise that AMT really existed :\
 
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AMT is one of the very few drugs, along with mescaline, that has the ability to bring out the beauty in everything you encounter. To quote a friend who is far from being politically correct,"even the rough looking lasses have something beautiful about them tonight".

I think that statement (in it's fucked up way) sums up the aesthetic enhancement that only a few psychedelics possess; so far I've only ever encountered it with mescaline, AMT and to a lesser degree cannabis/MDMA combo.
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Mescaline is my favorite drug for this reason. Would you say that aMT incurs this effect to the degree which mescaline does?
 
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