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AMT - First time - Beautiful and Strange Concepts!

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I have quite a bit of drug experience but never really had the chance to try many tryptamines with the only one being 4-HO-DMT (psilocybin) and absolutely loved the experience.

My main drug exerience has been with Psilocybin, MDMA, Amphetamine, Marijuana, Alcohol, Salvia, BZP and a few other wierd unknown stimulants in pills:\ . I have also tried Subotex , Valium and a few other pharms.

It was on a friday i got home from work early and thought it would be perfect timing at 2pm.

2pm: 30mg goes down the hatch, the stuff smells like fart gas to me which somewhat puts me off snorting the chem or even smoking it (so oral route it is for me)

+30 (2.30pm): Slight stomach discomfort, GI rumbling for such a small amount of chemical it seems to be slightly annoying, but i get some food down and feel better

+60 (3.00pm): Still not feeling anything, have read reports that it takes up to two hours to come on so smoke a joint as i am getting slightly impatient

+90 (3.30pm): Is this placebo, i seem to be getting slightly restless and something is happening but i dont know quite what. I want to get up and go out, but i decide to smoke another joint and wait for a while to get the feel for this.

+120 (4.00pm): Becoming restless, i still dont think i have come up yet but i am definately feeling something. Feeling chattier but not so much tripping as of yet.. decide to go out on a walk through a large park, which would be a beautiful setting for a trip.

+135 (4.15pm): out in the park, it feels good to be outside, things are getting different i am beggining to feel body sensations similar to MDMA/Amphetamine but with a slight twist to it, I seem to analyse everything more and am enjoying the scenary around me, a joint goes perfect and sets of the giggles with me and my friends.

+165 (4.45pm): The floor seems bouncier, i feel good to be outside exploring... i lie down on the drass after endless exploring and stare into the trees, my vision seems to be getting slighty different but its more in my head than visual at this moment.

+180 (5.00pm) Definate visuals, the grass seems to have taken a different colour of green, i am getting slightly confused to what i am going to say and cannot think straight.

+240 (6.00pm) Things are getting much stranger now, the bodyload has started to hit me, i seem to be getting enormous rushing sensations down my back, i cannot think straight and because of that i find everything funny, simply because i cannot understand anything, we all go back to mine and chill out.

+300 (7.00pm) Back at mine i am really stimulated in a wierd way but cannot really get up to do anything, i just lie there and enjoy my ceiling crawling while putting on some nice lighting. The bodyload is quite strong and its making me slightly anxious but some mary jane really goes well with this, i dont really seem stoned but it does it make me more giggly and the visuals are more interesting when mixed with Marijuana... Everyone is having a laugh at this point and it becomes hysterical at one point that my jaw is hurting.

+330 (7.30pm) Tries to eat some food with friends, some find it easy to eat, i simply chew on the food but cannot swallow, i spit it out and i am happy to just drink lucosade.

+360 (8.00pm) Decide to go round to a friends round the corner, everyone walks outside and the trees seem to have faces, all the branches look a strange colour but also gained this lifelike appearance. Its strange how this drug makes me think some things are so beautiful so but the shade seems so dull and boring. Lights seem so more intersting.

+480 (10.00pm) I seem like i cannot concentrate on much, i feel stimulated but also feel quite relaxed although the body sensations are fairly strong, my muscles in my leg are clenching and my jaw hurts slightly.

+600 (12.00am) I am becoming slightly tired but i just smoke some weed and chill out and relax, the body sensations have calmed down somewhat but my friend put a strobe light on and blue/purple and red orbs seem to be coming off the strobe and filling the room, its so beautiful to see i just sit there and sit looking

+720 (2.00am) Decide to go to home, walking home was interesting , the dark seemed so scary and evil yet the lights seemed to have this wired glow... i walked home staring at all the lights and the stars looked crazy outside, i looked up and i seen two moons, my vision is becoming blurry and go home for a spliff and go to sleep... which took quite a while and without downers would have been even harder.

Conclusion... I really like this drug alot, i expected it to be slightly like psilocybin with the MDxx type bodyload but boy was i wrong.. i really do appreciate what this drug has to offer, the next day i felt slightly tired and i had a dry mouth but other than that felt farily normal (although i could still feel the drug was in my system)

The visuals are very interesting, everything seemed to take a glow to it and although the morphing of stuff wasn't that pronounced i had some really strange interpretations of things such as faces in things, slight crawling of things and colours seemed to sparkle (also double vision didn't help)... i really didn't midn the body load the rushing sensations down my back was very ccrazy and apart from slight muschle aching it wasn't bad for me. The comedown was expected but i would definately do again at similar dose.

Anyone tried I'Ving this stuff?
 
There is something about a-MT that really interests me. When I finally try it, I will probably use at least 40mg....it sounds like the kind of thing I'd only do once because of the long action, and stimulation...so I want the full experience.

I've been holding onto a-MT for, gosh, seven years now. Almost tried it in 2002, but things got held up and we choose 2C-I instead...wanting to be able to sleep. Thankfully, it is well stored and still in mint condition.
 
AMT is one of the very few drugs, along with mescaline, that has the ability to bring out the beauty in everything you encounter. To quote a friend who is far from being politically correct,"even the rough looking lasses have something beautiful about them tonight".

I think that statement (in it's fucked up way) sums up the aesthetic enhancement that only a few psychedelics possess; so far I've only ever encountered it with mescaline, AMT and to a lesser degree cannabis/MDMA combo.
 
F&B, do you think AMT would be good for someone who's had a bad experience on psychedelics before and is a little afraid of touching them again? One of my friends has some AMT and wants to try it, but is afraid because of an awful acid trip. I've never tried the stuff but you're all making me more and more interested. :)
 
^^ you should suggest to your friend to hunt out a book called the tibetan book of living and dying and to read that after a bad trip, it's rather insightful.
 
I really didn't care too much for AMT. It seemed like DOC with more shakiness/side effect to me.

To me though, every drug brings out the beauty in everything- except DXM.
 
n e one had any experience vaporising this stuff, tried it with a normal pipe with ash and got pretty bad side effects, wasnt as good as oral.

i know the stuff absolutely reeks but has anyone tried intranasal administration.

I would also be interested to know whether I.V AMT comes on straight away or not... to my knowledge i heard that I.V LSD still takes 15-20 minutes when iv'd and im curious whether i.v amt comes on straight away or not?
 
For snorting, depends on whether you have the freebase or the HCL salt?

The HCL is suitable (if i remember correctly) but the freebase isn't soluble in water so there is little point in trying... and it stinks so bad i couldn't imagine snorting it...
 
wouldnt bother snorting the stuff because of the smell.

Found 5mg to give a good mood lift for most of the day, i like this stuff
 
Yes, 5mg oral for mood lift works well. Smoked too, but the smoke is awful.

I wonder if anyone has combined AMT with methylone at all?

I'm considering doing this combo (full dose of Methylone and 5-10mg of AMT)very soon and wondering about the timing. Perhaps ingested at the same time would be best. Due to the short-lived nature of the methylone high, there are only few psy's I'd consider combining with it - perhaps DPT as it is equally shortlived, otherwise AMT because of the moodlift. 2C-C definitely didn't feel right in combination with M1.

I am aware that AMT may act as a mild MAOI and that it may thus be unsafe to combine it with a serotonergic (sic?) drug. But at that dosage level I assume it'll be ok. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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From everyones fave F&B (he loves his AMT he does):

Well the AMT was taken about 10am (2x my antidepressant dose) and the methylone was taken about 1pm (followed by an afternoon of feeding ducks, swans etc with my wife at the the local park). The empathogenic effects of the methylone seemed to last a good 3 hours, whereas normally I only get 1 & 1/2 - 2 hours.

Best of all, there was no noticable 'hangover' effect afterwards, it just seemed to blend in with the jolly effects of the AMT antidepressant activity (no physical effects, like headache either). I think 20-25mg of AMT followed by the methyone might be quite spectacular in it's effect (although I couldn't vouch that it wouldn't produce a headache...)
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Phens don't seem to combine all that well with methylone from what i've read, eventually i'll try it at the end of a 2c-b trip, just for my own curiosity.

hope this helps
 
morninggloryseed said:
There is something about a-MT that really interests me. When I finally try it, I will probably use at least 40mg....it sounds like the kind of thing I'd only do once because of the long action, and stimulation...so I want the full experience.

I've been holding onto a-MT for, gosh, seven years now. Almost tried it in 2002, but things got held up and we choose 2C-I instead...wanting to be able to sleep. Thankfully, it is well stored and still in mint condition.
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I'd go carefully... I've done AMT at least a dozen times, usually around 30mg. Over the summer at a festival I took ~25mg, and found it almost overwhelming at times - the bodyload and rushing was so powerful. Really suprised by the strength, highly enjoyable though and not much of a "mindfuck" - I was able to deal with what would have been a very stressful situation tripping on some other drugs (sitting down in someone else's shit in the woods... yuck).

i know the stuff absolutely reeks but has anyone tried intranasal administration.
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Yes... freebase. I wouldn't recommend it. Ouch.

I love AMT though - I've never really had the GI disturbances that are sometimes associated with it.

Bad things about it - you can smoke & smoke & smoke weed during the trip. As the OP mentioned, it doesnt really get you "stoned" properly, but it is very nice. Be prepared to cane through your stash!

Good things - You can eat on it! Unlike most drugs with a high bodyload, I find eating on AMT very enjoyable. Me and the girlfriend whipped up a chocolate and orange souffle in the middle of the night once on AMT. Delicious.
- The anti depressant effect - Taking 15-20mg of AMT on the sunday after a heavy saturday night on MDMA really eases the midweek blues for me. The only danger is making you stay up late and wanting to get more high.
 
7.5mg of AMt were followed by 100mg of methylone at T+2.
The process of making music was way more insightful that it usually is on just Methylone. Less goal-oriented but thus more open-ended. At T+4 or so, added 30mg of butylone. At T+5, added 6-9mg of 2C-D, which made this whole experince far more visual and notched up the emotional insight, helping along the cognitive factor as well. Added 100mg more of methylone. One monkey then was administered 2 LSD blotters of comparabale medium strength of different origin. The insight gleaned was gold. pure delight. Beer was suddenly no longer consumed... one monkey's 2nd and the other monkey's third can never make it to the bottom. Peaceful like rarely before in recent times. Spent time in perfect silence, meditating, guiding another monkey out of anxiety with the help of a wonderful anti-anxiety CD followed by a "Sounds of the rainforest" CD enhanced with flute and harp. boy was it good. For reasons of practicality (mainly time left before interaction with perfectly perma-baseline individuals from the extended family network) some alprazolam was ingested at the T+12 point, a choice which allowed for 6 hours of perfect rest and upon waking, partly due to the alprazolam, it seems, last night insight's - oh so crystal clear they were - are still so close yet once again somehow so far away. Nature... love, really, the only logical answer, given reality. And to say it happily... ah!

To recap... the combo M1 (full dose) and AMT at 5-10mg is well worth it. Any restlessness / anxiety was in the mind and not from thr drug combo itself. the 2C-D (low dose as well) enhances all this, adding a new flavour, adding cognitive clarity (and visuals, hehe) to the serene heart space of AMT. It all felt so right that the two hits of medium-strength acid just had to be consumed, and they were SO right. Acid is indeed a very special space, and at the end of the day it just really is my favourite psychedelic. Just took two hits to remember. Wow. I was so me, and I udnerstood every singel one of my hang-ups and they just weren't hang-ups any more because I saw them all for what what they were and let them be. All their power over me was gone.

Recommend!!
 
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Intoxo said:
I really didn't care too much for AMT. It seemed like DOC with more shakiness/side effect to me.
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Wow, I find AMT to be so much more pleasant and benign. DOC was crude, nasty, my humanity stripped of all ornamentation, my ego shattered, battered, writhing, pointing at so many physical symptoms that just wouldn't go away. AMT, on the other hand, wonderful material. I thank the universe for this life.
 
Good report!

Shows drugs (especially psychedelic compounds) works differently for everyone. Psilocybin has always taken my body and mind and thrown it under a train and dragged it along for a few miles before leaving me mangled on the side of the road, even on the medium doses, and of course the very high doses I have taken. But my body and mind can handle most other compounds.

I'd much rather 4 hits of blotter than a medium dose of mushrooms when it comes to avoiding annoying body load and anxiety.
 
i really have had time too look at it since then, i really do appreciate AMT in small doses, it does have a nice uplifting feeling with it even at 5mg i feel uplifted, i find bigger doses espeically over 40mg to just be wayyyy too much stimulation with it, and the body load lasts a good 12-24 hours :\

Still it is a good drug in small doses , i like it more than MDMA in that i have abused MDMA and it no longer works the same on me :(
 
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