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I am one of those people who is great at staying awake and terrible at falling asleep under normal conditions. So naturally, when I've had a long night of rolling, I always have a tough time falling asleep. The only thing I can get my hands on to help me sleep is ambien - and marijuana, but that doesn't seem to help much with putting me to bed.

Is it safe to take ambien during or after the come-down of E to help me sleep? Does anybody have any other non-prescription, non-illegal methods or something I can take or do to help me get to bed? I am going to look into melatonin but I don't know if that is strong enough to work and the over-the-counter sleeping pills and NyQuil just give me the shivers (with or without E). I basically want to avoid the remainder of the E come-down and get a good night's sleep so I am as fresh as possible the next day. Thanks!
 
Ambien (15-20mg) should help put you to sleep, but avoid the nyquil.

If 20mg of zolpidem can't put you to sleep, you need to start taking your pills earlier, because you must still be rolling pretty hard (or getting pills with fuck loads of meth)
 
I feel you here I am the same way; naturally an insomniac. A good friend of mine has an adderall scrip. and was having trouble sleeping, so her doc. suggested ambien at night. It's apparently safe enough to use with stimulants like adderall.

Whatever you do don't use Tylenol PM, or any other product containing acetaminophen for extended periods to help you sleep. Personally I think they should pull it from the shelves. I am lucky to be here posting right now; as I personally almost bit the dust.

Acetaminophen Risks
 
Melatonin usually works pretty well for me (3mg), though this requires you to have come down for a while.

If you're really in a fix, try a sedating antihistamine, but one WITHOUT paracetamol/acetaminophen in it. That's terribly hard on your liver, and should be avoided at all costs.
 
Thanks for the advice everyone. As RealRollzOnly mentioned, I am naturally kind of an insomniac and the effect of the speed in the pills (they were pretty speedy and my body is sensitive to everything), I was awake for around 30 hours straight. I popped 2.5 pills last time and I think that was the problem....great roll but just too much speed...I have a feeling that the pills I get have more speed than MDMA/MDA. Unfortunately, I can only get my hands on the same pills from my local source again this time so I am only going to take 1.5 pills (I guess 1 pill and then the other half about an hour later?? - on the basis that my body always takes 2 hours or more to start rolling), and I'll have the ambien and melatonin ready.
 
Smoking weed on the comedown may not be a good idea if you're an insomniac, if you had speedy pills or if you're not really experienced with weed. Also certain weed(usually some less-than-decent looking outdoor that's more sativa-ish than the normal commercial bud) keeps me active terribly long, I hate it when I smoke this and I try to sleep.
 
Wow, that is interesting to hear. I have a lot of experience with weed and I used to love to use it to help me get to sleep, but yeah, weed does not really help as much as I would like it to on speedy pills. :(
 
VelocideX said:
Melatonin usually works pretty well for me (3mg), though this requires you to have come down for a while.
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Yea works very well for me as well, except I just started using it recently, and haven't rolled and taken it yet. Works for me on a long night of coke, so I'm sure it will work for ecstasy :)
 
Awesome, because my friend has been using Melatonin and he said it knocks him out, but it's hard to believe an OTC product would work so well. I have some on the way, so I guess I will find out for myself. In any case, I think I will end up taking 10 or 20mg of ambien on the night of the roll.
 
For me, this is how it goes...

Speedy pills + inexperienced weed smoker + a lot of weed to help sleep = massive panic attack, 200bpm plus heart rate

Not fun!
 
I would not know. All I know is that if I am in a cycle of doing a lot of smoking, my body gets rid of my high faster....when I am on speedy pills and I smoke up, I get blazed for only a couple of minutes at best and I don't feel it much.

Sooo, I'm taking a nice break from weed and E and I will go back to both on the same night...should make for a good experience, assuming the speed doesn't make me go crazy. I do use alcohol to slow my system down, though.
 
I've taken Ambien with E before, it's a fun trip. Didn't make me sleepy though. Ambien's a hypnotic, not a sedative. So it makes things VERY interesting when combined with MDMA or especially MDA (light effects are awesome). But I doubt it'll really make you sleep. It didn't for me, but then I'm very experienced with Ambien.

If you really want to sleep, I suggest 2 benadryl (50mg dipenhydramine each) about 30 mins before you want to crash. It usually works like a charm.
 
Why not just go to the doctor and get some non-addictive prescription sleeping tablets that work?
 
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