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Am I just a nonvisual person?

lol well lsd works just fine for me now.. but my first real god experience took place while candy flipping - lsd + mdma. to say that it changed my life over night is a gross understatement.. but thats for another thread i suppose. anyway i think you might find that lsd suites you well for what youre trying to accomplish.
 
Fax me some! : p

I'm curious about the dosages that worked for you. I haven't had a chance to try MDMA, or LSD yet. Did you already post it in another thread or somewhere?
 
.Lucid. said:
i find a lot of the visuals i experience on lsd take place more in my head than in my actual field of vision.. like the things in my head will be so vivid and real that they will sort of be projected over my visual interpretation of reality. so its more like theres a vivid dream playing in your head and its superimposed over what youre looking at with your eyes.. sort of. if that makes sense.
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This. I almost never get anything in the way of OEVs unless I combo a medium+ dose of a psych with a large amount of some cannabinoid. I found this especially brings out the visual aspect of 2c-e which the op said they had.
 
Yeah I don't see how anyone could not have visuals from breakthrough doses of DMT... hell even sub-breakthrough doses caused my vision to be nothing but fractal patterns and weird texture gradients...
 
Depressicaa said:
Yeah I always associated psychedelics with open eye visuals. I had the mental thing before but I assumed it wasn't normal not to see anything. After all thats what people always talk about right? OH MY GOD I SAW INFINITY, I SAW GOD never I felt god or whatever.
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Nope. The people who associate visuals with the primary effect of psyches haven't had a real trip. In those sorts of experiences, the visuals are pretty much worthless in comparison to... well, everything else. The ineffable.

They are mildly entertaining -- I'll even go so far as to say that they can indeed be fascinating -- but they are not the essence of the trip.

Depressicaa said:
I'll get some pot for my next trip, thanks Lucid!
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This one's a bit of a toughie. I've had some fantastic experiences smoking pot on psychedelics. Strangely, I've also smoked an inordinate quantity of sativa buds during an LSD peak to almost no effect. Although I've never had any negative experiences with it, despite being prone to cannabis-induced anxiety sans psyches, be warned that a LOT of trainwreck trips take their wrong turn after a bowl of weed.

I would venture to guess that I've had the good (at worst, neutral) luck that I did because I only smoked it during trips that were already full, ecstatic, psychedelic breakthroughs. I never said, "This trip isn't going so well. Maybe smoking a bowl will turn things around."

Anyhow, I recommend pot on psychedelics, but I don't. ;)
 
My DMT was probably of poor quality.
It was orangish and I didn't measure it out, just decided hey I'll smoke this lets see where it gets me.

Thanks for that Applecore! I'm going for the visuals, and hopefully if I stay on the grass I'll finally get the coveted visuals. What defines a psychedelic experience to you?

I think of it as an experience with an accompanying nausea that upsets your body (what the fuck is happening, haha), but is still enjoyable.
 
Jamshyd said:
With a few exceptions (certainly LSD included :)), I too have been for the most part a non-visual tripper. My distortions and hallucinations seem to be entirely tactile - ie. affecting the sense of touch. I "feel" different "textures" or geometric "patterns", etc, on my skin, inside my body, and so on.

This actually makes my trips a bit more challenging, because not only do I not have pretty visuals to distract me, but I have to deal with all sorts of sensations which are not exactly comfortable sometimes.
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That pretty much sums up the vast majority of my trips also.

I also very rarely if ever dream (at least that I remember). A couple of dreams in the past twenty years.
 
I never ever got visuals, bar a shimmer or distortion, despite some pretty heavy lsd and mushroom dosing in five years of psychedelic exploration...

Until I found 2-ce, which completely engulfed my vision with neon lines, sparks and shimmering liquid metal surfaces... a night I will never, ever forget. Since then, it has only been the likes of DMT (in fact, moreso 5-meo-dmt) that have caused such engulfing visuals, though I found that the 2-ce experience made me somewhat more receptive, and have since been able to enjoy all psychedelics a great deal more.

Perhaps you're looking too hard?
 
Yes that could very well be possible.

How much did you dose? And how the fuck do you measure it? Its god damn sticky and I can't seem to get the right measurement.
 
Depressicaa said:
Fax me some! : p

I'm curious about the dosages that worked for you. I haven't had a chance to try MDMA, or LSD yet. Did you already post it in another thread or somewhere?
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unfortunately dosages are pretty tricky with both LSD and MDMA. but if you get a good product it shouldnt take too much. the acid i usually work with i consider to be strong and my standard dose is two hits. as for the mdma, i usually do not exceed one tablet, again of what i consider to be good rolls.
 
Jamshyd said:
With a few exceptions (certainly LSD included :)), I too have been for the most part a non-visual tripper. My distortions and hallucinations seem to be entirely tactile - ie. affecting the sense of touch. I "feel" different "textures" or geometric "patterns", etc, on my skin, inside my body, and so on.

This actually makes my trips a bit more challenging, because not only do I not have pretty visuals to distract me, but I have to deal with all sorts of sensations which are not exactly comfortable sometimes.
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The only psychedelics that have caused me "touching hallucinations" were salvia(yikes), DOB, AMT. I believe.

LSD was more like a feeling that wasn't focused on the senses too much. DOx, 5meo-AMT are really hard with the body visuals.

I was looking at trees and the way they were warping was what my skin felt, it was really odd and scared me. DOx.
 
killo said:
The only psychedelics that have caused me "touching hallucinations" were salvia(yikes), DOB, AMT. I believe.

LSD was more like a feeling that wasn't focused on the senses too much. DOx, 5meo-AMT are really hard with the body visuals.

I was looking at trees and the way they were warping was what my skin felt, it was really odd and scared me. DOx.
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Salvia visuals are a beast of a different nature IME.
 
Its a mystery why some people just dont get visuals. My friend and i would always dose around the same dosage (Mushrooms, L, DMT), and he would barley get visuals while im having eye popping visuals of things exploding on me. He also was taking some anti-depressant's which i think had a role on things.

Also one of my family members is an old Dead Head and brags about the L he used to get was so gnarley that he would be seeing cosmos creating and what nots. Tells me that my generation of psychedelics is "Pussy Shit". So i figured i would show him a visual mess and have him leave his body. So i pack him about 60mgs of DMT and he takes his hit, holds it in for a good 30 seconds, blows his hit out and hits it again. Waits about a minute and asks when its soposta kick in. I was completely in awe that he wasnt feeling a damm thing. Then he stands up looks at me and says "See your generations stuff is weak." Grabs his beer and walks inside.

So another family member asks if she could try this body leaving substance. She dosnt dabble into too many psychedelics so i take it easy on her. Pack her around 30mgs and she puffs it once and drops the pipe and starts so cry."IM SEEING MY LIFE UNFOLD IN FRONT OF ME!' I KNOW HOW PEOPLE FEEL WHEN OTHERS ARE BEING HURT! WHY DO YOU DO THIS STUFF". And so on, basically shes being reborn.
 
Please see another post also

I also usually don't have a strong visual response to psychedelics. Recently though I had a nice visual experience with DMT plus other stuff.

I was thinking about posting on this thread, since it is a bit out of the topic here, I decided to start a new thread : "DMT and combinations".


Most visual things for me, from more visual to least :

DMT, 2C-E, DOC, 4-AcO-MiPT, 4-AcO-DiPT, 2C-I, 2C-B, DOM.


DOM, DOC and 2C-E are strong stuff, please watch out.

The most I tried of DOM was 5 mg, the most I tried of 2C-E was 12 mg. I have tried DOC at 1.5 mg, just right, not too much, not too less.

I am planning to go higher on the 2C-E, I don't think it is worth to go higher on DOM, seems to be only making things more intense, unpleasant and out of control. Almost a bad trip. Barely starting to be visual for me. This was my second try wityh DOM. My first one was quite nice, at 2 mg. Not visual at all though.

I expected both DOM and 2C-B to be more visual. Both not too much visual for me. The only drug that gave me good OEV's was 2C-I, but I did not liked the overall effect.
 
xwinorb said:
I also usually don't have a strong visual response to psychedelics. Recently though I had a nice visual experience with DMT plus other stuff.

I was thinking about posting on this thread, since it is a bit out of the topic here, I decided to start a new thread : "DMT and combinations".


Most visual things for me, from more visual to least :

DMT, 2C-E, DOC, 4-AcO-MiPT, 4-AcO-DiPT, 2C-I, 2C-B, DOM.


DOM, DOC and 2C-E are strong stuff, please watch out.

The most I tried of DOM was 5 mg, the most I tried of 2C-E was 12 mg. I have tried DOC at 1.5 mg, just right, not too much, not too less.

I am planning to go higher on the 2C-E, I don't think it is worth to go higher on DOM, seems to be only making things more intense, unpleasant and out of control. Almost a bad trip. Barely starting to be visual for me. This was my second try wityh DOM. My first one was quite nice, at 2 mg. Not visual at all though.

I expected both DOM and 2C-B to be more visual. Both not too much visual for me. The only drug that gave me good OEV's was 2C-I, but I did not liked the overall effect.
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Yep it's how I feel about RC's. Overall RC's don't come close to LSD or mushrooms in terms of profoundness and visuals.

At times the visuals and euphoria on DOX were more intense than LSD but still not as magical or profound. DOX is missing something that can't be replicated. Something very deep that is subjective to the user.
 
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Elesde718 said:
a little green lets me see it all. it really helps because i need a high dose of psych w/o sensi
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This is a good point and this might help you too. I remember one trip when I had been dosing 2C-E a lot in the prior couple of weeks, so my tolerance was very high, I took a small dose and really the only visuals I was getting was a little "HD enhancement" to my vision. I smoked some JWH (weed would work just as well) on the peak and it got much more intense and visual, great combo.
 
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