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alternatives to mdma once the 'magic' has been lost

If you need to losen up to become more social, try GHB.

Takes a lot of experimenting at home before you find your sweet spot though.
 
Yeah GHB or a stim like amphetamines as people said. K in small doses as well, but K is very easy to binge on and that edge between it making you more socialable and euphoric to fucked and incoherent is very small. Also only true with the s-isomer I find. The r isomer just makes me feel wobbly and makes me 5x as retarded without me realising this is the case. I end think I'm sober and coherent and it's just not the case. Nothing pleasant about ketamine if you don't have access to the good stuff :(

But yeah, best thing is to take a drugs entirely. I was up to a week ago quite depressed, and ended up having a weird paranoid attack (very odd for me, I'm usually quite positive and never really anxious). It scared the shit out of me and I stopped smoking weed everyday and doing drugs in general (not perminantly). It's had a huge effect and it's only been a week.
 
StrutterGear said:
Expectation, perception, and setting.
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This.

I'm (still) under at least a small impression that I have lost the magic due to purchasing tested and tried MDMA on more than 3 occasions for it to deliver little to no effect. I find myself often wondering if its truly a question of losing magic or if my perception of the drug and my setting of choice has changed.
 
Take 5 htp

BattleForMiddleYou said:
mdma's starting to lose it's magic for me, I don't like drinking and even less like to go out sober
what are other drugs have similar effects / are good for going out?

(apart from cocaine)
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Take 200 mg of 5 htp a day. After a month and a half see how if the "magic came back". 5 htp is found in drug stores with the vitamins. You should take the 5 htp 24 - 74 hours before the roll, as well as the next day to prevent neuro toxic activity from the MDMA. Its called pre/post loading. There is a very helpful blog on this site somewhere on it. Type it into a search engine and it will pop up.
 
^ Awful advice, you shouldn't got messing with a drug who's primary use is as an antidepressants to make getting high more fun.
 
yeh i agree. iv have never ever needed any of this bs about pre loading eating dark chocolate or 5htp or whatever else. it is unnecessary imo/e. if you are not getting the desired md effects take a break or find a better source for your md.

back to op if md isnt working have you tried 'moolies' apparently its really good stuff all the gangsta rappers are rapping about it so you know its good homie.
 
If youve lost the magic to MDMA then the best drug is sobriety.

Anyone with their head on straight would say this.

Seriously dude I came to ask myself the same question, I abused the fuck out of MDMA, lost the "magic" and came to terms, there is more to life than drugs drugs drugs
 
I agree. Kids often don't have their head screwed on though, I know I didn't a few years ago.

Although I hear mollies is pretty good.
 
He came to a realisation that drugs was my main "hobby" or thing to do in my spare time relatively recently (some months ago). Came to the realisation two weeks ago that, drugs being my hobby was a bad thing. Seriously do take a break, at worst, you save yourself some money. Nothing bad can happen if you do take a break, whilst potentially lots of bad things can happen if you don't.
 
learning how to be sober and have a good time - if MDMA has lost it's magic you have done it too much.

I suggest knocking everything on the head for a while, living in reality, then coming back to it in a few years, with a small dose - somewhere in the region of 70-90mg. You will see the pure magic once again. Have you been taking it compulsively, frequently? The true merits of MDMA are lost in these instances.
 
^^ That's probably because cocaine is almost always really weak to begin with.. you're lucky if you can buy coke on the street that is even 15% pure, that's the good shit. I wouldn't mess with it, ESPECIALLY if you want a healthier alternative to MDMA lmao
 
^ Is MDMA safer than MDMA? Yes..? No? What lol?


I was saying, generally, MDMA is a better choice than cocaine which is rife with toxic impurities like levamisole that eat out the tissue of your nose. Not to mention cocaine is much more addictive and habit forming than MDMA, not that you can't have some serious problems with MDMA.

Of course that opinion is rather biased, but I think most would agree with me
 
whoops, edited that.

yeh, id definitely disagree and argue that coke is a hell of a lot safer/less toxic than mdma. can do coke all night and wake up fresh with little to no hangover, whereas md drains me..

everyone is differant though i guess.
 
That's kind of the problem though haha, once you start doing coke you want to keep doing more all night.. and once that's gone you're looking for a way to get more :\ whereas with MDMA I can do one dose for a night and call it good.



But yeah, YMMV. If you can get good coke I'm all for it lol, hell it can even get you some euphoria on par with MDMA! But the shitty ass coke that most people get... fuck that. :p
 
yeh, i agree shitty coke is shitty and totally not worth it. as far as wanting to keep re-dosing i was just as bad with md as i was with coke, well almost.

for me coke is the best alternative to md, i would actually prefer coke over md if they were the same price and quality for reason stated above, the day/week after the storm. i feel coke has most all of md positives plus more like clear headedness and focus, and without half the negatives such as the comedown and following days of feeling off.
 
You know, I have taken MDMA three or four times recently, what genuinely looked like, tasted like, and friends swore was great molly. Negligible effects, if anything. I did ex too much for a while, and I did honestly cause myself to "lose the magic" completely. That said, I took a break for almost a year. And I still get nothing from even the high dosages of the drug that I've taken recently. Others are flying. I've insulfullated very generous lines and even felt the comeup I remember and used to associate with the drug, but after it wears off and the the euphoria should be hitting me, absolutely zilch. After I stopped ecstasy, though, I did start doing meth on occasion. Could the meth, being a similar chemical, be the culprit preventing me from rediscovering the "magic"? Could it be the cause of my tolerance?
 
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