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ALTERNATIVE THEORIES V: The Build-a-bear Workshop

bmxxx said:
No, I do not. I mean things such as the distnction between 'love' and 'lust', I mean the reasons you find a particular type of 1-nighter, or a particular type of long-term, to be preferable, I mean what most everything about your sexual desires say about your psyche.
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Love....Where's your proof that love exists...

In the science community Love is just a set of chemical reactions. Nothing more.

Do you have proof otherwise?



bmxxx said:
You realize your drum-roll just served as setup to make you look dumb, eh? W/O even bothering to google to copypasta definitions, there is absolutely a difference between heterosex (prefer opposing gender) and homosex (prefer same gender) preferences in terms of sexual desires. I imagine your post was almost hyperbolic to prove a point (perhaps your original point, ie 'drop homo- and hetero-, you're left w/ just sex), but that original point was reductionist to the point of moronic, and if this sentence is just meant to emphasize it, then plz just be quiet w/ your infantile conflations between homo/hetero cuz they're not noteworthy to anyone at such a point.
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Difference?...No no no I said they don't exist.

They don't by the way.


bmxxx said:
Yes, ppl can be conditioned to most-anything.. wtf does that have to do w/ free choices in sexual partners? If you're gonna throw some oblique societal rant, plz be specific in what you mean to convey.
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LOL


bmxxx said:
Is this nugget of wisdom meant as anything relevant, or just kinda as a 'proof' on your past quote in regards to 'minds can be conditioned'?

Am seein a lot of herp, but not enough derp.. I do await a more thought-out reply, am actually holding my breath.
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You're "litigator babble" is cute. (*your)=D

Nice try though.
 
yes, similar but very different, tho the computing analogy is very useful for many despite how inaccurate it may ultimately be.
Re context for 'homosexual agenda', I wasn't aware of more than 1, namely the idea of political agendas (typically religious) in their pursuit of marginalizing non-hetero sexuality. I guess there could be the 'homosexual agenda' of homosexuals trying to make their lifestyle more mainstream, but when just reading 'homosexual agenda' w/o qualifiers, I think most think what my original interpretation was.
 
bmxxx said:
Re context for 'homosexual agenda', I wasn't aware of more than 1, namely the idea of political agendas (typically religious) in their pursuit of marginalizing non-hetero sexuality. I guess there could be the 'homosexual agenda' of homosexuals trying to make their lifestyle more mainstream, but when just reading 'homosexual agenda' w/o qualifiers, I think most think what my original interpretation was.
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i assumed it was some reactionary label for the latter.
You could well be right though. It's a mystery.
 
GodandLove said:
Love....Where's your proof that love exists...

In the science community Love is just a set of chemical reactions. Nothing more.

Do you have proof otherwise?
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uhh.. okay
line1: I never breached the topic "does love exist", nor is that relevant to what i was replying to.
line2: In the science community, consciousness is just a set of chemical reactions. I agree to such a line of thinking, and also am of the school that 'love' is one of these chemical reactions in a human brain. Unsure wtf this chemicals V 'consciousness'/'emotions' line from you has to do with fuck-all, but now that i've clarified perhaps you could explain why that was relevant to my original reply to you?
line3: No I do not, because I agree w/ it. Can you explain why a neurochemical basis for the phenomena of human emotions has a g'damn thing to do w/ your original post? Or is it just reduction ad absurdum nonsense, ie 'sex is chemical, ergo there's no homo/hetero dichotomy'? Will LOL if that's your case, which i think it is, but will await your elaboration.




godlove said:
Difference?...No no no I said they don't exist.

They don't by the way.


LOL
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they don't? 'they' was in reference to homo- and sexual- ity... so now neither (and, thus, the whole of 'sexuality') do not exist? WTF are you talking about? Can I ask you- is sexual desire 'real'? Secondly, can one have a preference, at any specific time, towards either males or females?
If you can answer those, I'd love to hear how there's no difference between homo and hetero, as alluded to in the post I was responded to that you're now quoting.
//good quote, btw. Was 3 lines, and the 2nd and 3rd had dick for substance. Good jorb buddy




god is love said:
You're "litigator babble" is cute. (*your)=D

Nice try though.
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WTF are you talking about, what in there made your lil mind think 'litigator'? Am sure your reply will be well thought-out and am in the mood for conspiracy-theory thread bs'ing, so awaiting your relpy boss ;)
 
bmxxx said:
uhh.. okay
line1: I never breached the topic "does love exist", nor is that relevant to what i was replying to.
line2: In the science community, consciousness is just a set of chemical reactions. I agree to such a line of thinking, and also am of the school that 'love' is one of these chemical reactions in a human brain. Unsure wtf this chemicals V 'consciousness'/'emotions' line from you has to do with fuck-all, but now that i've clarified perhaps you could explain why that was relevant to my original reply to you?
line3: No I do not, because I agree w/ it. Can you explain why a neurochemical basis for the phenomena of human emotions has a g'damn thing to do w/ your original post? Or is it just reduction ad absurdum nonsense, ie 'sex is chemical, ergo there's no homo/hetero dichotomy'? Will LOL if that's your case, which i think it is, but will await your elaboration.





they don't? 'they' was in reference to homo- and sexual- ity... so now neither (and, thus, the whole of 'sexuality') do not exist? WTF are you talking about? Can I ask you- is sexual desire 'real'? Secondly, can one have a preference, at any specific time, towards either males or females?
If you can answer those, I'd love to hear how there's no difference between homo and hetero, as alluded to in the post I was responded to that you're now quoting.
//good quote, btw. Was 3 lines, and the 2nd and 3rd had dick for substance. Good jorb buddy





WTF are you talking about, what in there made your lil mind think 'litigator'? Am sure your reply will be well thought-out and am in the mood for conspiracy-theory thread bs'ing, so awaiting your relpy boss ;)
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LOL

Do you even read your own posts before you post them?
 
bmxxx said:
uhh.. okay
line1: I never breached the topic "does love exist", nor is that relevant to what i was replying to.
line2: In the science community, consciousness is just a set of chemical reactions. I agree to such a line of thinking, and also am of the school that 'love' is one of these chemical reactions in a human brain. Unsure wtf this chemicals V 'consciousness'/'emotions' line from you has to do with fuck-all, but now that i've clarified perhaps you could explain why that was relevant to my original reply to you?
line3: No I do not, because I agree w/ it. Can you explain why a neurochemical basis for the phenomena of human emotions has a g'damn thing to do w/ your original post? Or is it just reduction ad absurdum nonsense, ie 'sex is chemical, ergo there's no homo/hetero dichotomy'? Will LOL if that's your case, which i think it is, but will await your elaboration.





they don't? 'they' was in reference to homo- and sexual- ity... so now neither (and, thus, the whole of 'sexuality') do not exist? WTF are you talking about? Can I ask you- is sexual desire 'real'? Secondly, can one have a preference, at any specific time, towards either males or females?
If you can answer those, I'd love to hear how there's no difference between homo and hetero, as alluded to in the post I was responded to that you're now quoting.
//good quote, btw. Was 3 lines, and the 2nd and 3rd had dick for substance. Good jorb buddy





WTF are you talking about, what in there made your lil mind think 'litigator'? Am sure your reply will be well thought-out and am in the mood for conspiracy-theory thread bs'ing, so awaiting your relpy boss ;)
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Okay


Line 1

You said and I quote "No, I do not. I mean things such as the distnction between 'love' and 'lust',"

And den I said...

Where's you're proof love exists? If it's nothing more than a chemical reaction... The only distinction is the individual processing what he or she believes to be "love".

Guess what...buddy...Love to me is a hot one night stand with a ladyboy...

Yesir.

and I'm not even gaY.

bmxxx said:
Yes, ppl can be conditioned to most-anything.. wtf does that have to do w/ free choices in sexual partners? If you're gonna throw some oblique societal rant, plz be specific in what you mean to convey.
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LOL

This quote right here should have ended this discussion.... But still it persists.8(
 
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Never mind.
Just...not the most creative retort. Maybe you'll get a really good reply to make up for it.


Is this going anywhere?
 
spacejunk said:
Never mind.
Just...not the most creative retort. Maybe you'll get a really good reply to make up for it.


Is this going anywhere?
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not free me how won't... God is love- you're clearly not an intentional troll, just a too-dumb-to-know-is-trolling type, sorry i've no patience, i at least thought you would coherently stand by the posts I'd torn apart. Alas, you just...didn't (hell, you continued on the 'love is just chems derp' theme, which is a theme that you introduced, not I.

You're obviously, ahem, 'conversationally-retarded', so w/o any interest in back&forthing you, I'll just ask you to elaborate your original (piece-of-shit)hypothesis, ie that there's no distinction between heterosexual, and homosexual, love/desire, or GTFO. Either way would be funny, although if you honestly and truly tried to back your original tripe ('strip homo/hetero and itz teh alllll lubs, babeeee') and back your assertation, that'd prove a lot funnier & more worthwhile to tear apart.
//ball's in your court, jeebus-freak ;)
 
lol, i usually check an unfamiliar-bler's posts if I'm hesitant to acknowledge them, and... well not to be a dick but it's a treasure-trove pulling this kid's "latest started threads"...

//comeatmebro.jpg.. am eagerly awaiting a reply. conspir.theory thread posting seems amusing for at least the next hour, and i know you're online 'god is love', so am holding breath yet again fer yerr ;P
 
bmxxx said:
not free me how won't... God is love- you're clearly not an intentional troll, just a too-dumb-to-know-is-trolling type, sorry i've no patience, i at least thought you would coherently stand by the posts I'd torn apart. Alas, you just...didn't (hell, you continued on the 'love is just chems derp' theme, which is a theme that you introduced, not I.

You're obviously, ahem, 'conversationally-retarded', so w/o any interest in back&forthing you, I'll just ask you to elaborate your original (piece-of-shit)hypothesis, ie that there's no distinction between heterosexual, and homosexual, love/desire, or GTFO. Either way would be funny, although if you honestly and truly tried to back your original tripe ('strip homo/hetero and itz teh alllll lubs, babeeee') and back your assertation, that'd prove a lot funnier & more worthwhile to tear apart.
//ball's in your court, jeebus-freak ;)
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Are you serious? Is your ego that out of whack? Are you a mental gymnast?

You tore apart my posts? Which ones?




When did I ever say there was "no distinction between between heterosexual, and homosexual"?

PLease quote me on this.

I said they don't exist.

They are but individual/interchangeable precepts...Which are just the result of "circumstantial" pre-conditioning.

"Thought forms" if you will... Ummm they are learned... Not inherited.

Huge difference...

Of course there's a distinction between the two.

I'm ultimately saying the human "psyche" is capable of rewriting/rewiring itself...A "heterosexual man is capable of converting and vise versa. It just takes a little conditioning. Reprogramming.



Clever ad hominems though.. You get credit for trying.
 
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God is Love said:
When did I ever say there was "no distinction between between heterosexual, and homosexual"?

PLease quote me on this.
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lol wtf is wrong w/ you, i never said you said there was distinction, you actually said there was no distinction between hetero / homo sexual desires:
GodandLove said:
I personally do not believe in defining sexuality...drop the hetro and the homo....what do you have....sexuality....MMMMMM BABY!
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, at which point i elaborated, and setup premise for not only a distinction, but (at least an innuendo) that there's actually pscho criteria related to such choices. I also mentioned i thought that was a 'simple', for lack of a more polite term, way of viewing interpersonal relationships. You've yet to offer anything further on that thought.








God is Love said:
I said they don't exist.

They are but individual/interchangeable precepts...Which are just the result of circumstantial pre-conditioning.
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individual precepts certainly do exist - are you implying that preconditioning, can change the reality of whether something is preconditioned in a given subject? More specifically, cuz I'm betting you're not big on abstracts, is can a precondition to hetero/homo, causing an implicit liking in a specific subject, not be construed as a 'real' desire

Huge difference...[/i]
I bet.
//sarcasm aside, read my past quote about 4lines above this, read that and digest it, then come back w/ whether or not homo v hetero can be construed as two similar, but different, takes on the normal homosapien sexual drive. Be as verbose and elaborate in your answer as possible cuz your lol-speak and cheap, short responses are missing far too much 'concrete' thought from where you're coming from



God is Love said:
Of course there's a distinction between the two.

I'm ultimately saying the human "psyche" is capable of rewriting/rewiring itself...A "heterosexual man is capable of converting and vise versa. It just takes a little conditioning. Reprogramming.

Clever ad hominems though.. You get credit for trying.
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re conditioning/rewriting: I wholly agree, I don't think homo/hetero are nearly as 'unchangeable' as ppl make them seem, and are far more psychological constructs than 'innate physical preferences'. I'll withhold further editorialization til i have a reason to give anything more in-depth (thnx for my 'credit' tho, from you that's actually speaking a lot, i've read your posts and am always taken aback by your profound stances on many difficult issues, not the least of which is sexWRTgender. I 'm actually @edge.of.seat waiting on more wisdom to pour from ur head dawg. I don't even mean that to come across wrong, but it's just such a breath of fresh air when someone w/ the word 'god' in their username actually spouts something worthwhile, and you're the 1st to do it, bro, so thnx a ton ;P )
 
bmxxx said:
lol wtf is wrong w/ you, i never said you said there was distinction, you actually said there was no distinction between hetero / homo sexual desires:
, at which point i elaborated
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You mean, you put words in my mouth? You "Elaborated"? LOL
Good one

I never once said there was no distinction between hetero and homosexualality.

You are a bold face liar.

I said I don't believe in defining sexuality.







bmxxx said:
individual precepts certainly do exist - are you implying that preconditioning, can change the reality of whether something is preconditioned in a given subject? More specifically, cuz I'm betting you're not big on abstracts, is can a precondition to hetero/homo, causing an implicit liking in a specific subject, not be construed as a 'real' desire
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Remember when I said " Your litigator babble is cute"?

You know exactly what I'm implying. Homosexuality is just a precept...it's the result of conditioning...it's the result of an individuals programming. The word homosexual...is just that a word.

Simplified

Just one man sticking his cluster of atoms into another mans cluster of atoms.

Atoms don't have gender.... this gender role we play is just an illusion.

To deep to grasp for the shallow minded I suppose.






bmxxx said:
re conditioning/rewriting: I wholly agree, I don't think homo/hetero are nearly as 'unchangeable' as ppl make them seem,.
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Okay...then why are we having this discussion?

If they are in fact "interchangeable" Then perhaps...maybe these labels that we put on sexuality are....non sense. Maybe, just maybe were all a little gay. That would mean heterosexuality does not exist....Dun dun duuunnnnn

Human imagination.
 
Hey BMX bike I have a hypothetical scenario for you... Is a woman born in a mans body a homosexual or a heterosexual?

Is a hermaphrodite a homosexual or a heterosexual?



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Check Mate

Paradoxical explosion!
 
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