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RCs alpha-PHP , a-php - Has anyone got any information?

After using roughly 500mg in the last 48 hours ive come to the conclusion the only way to enjoy is to limit yourself to either 100mg of either up the nostril or 100mg on foil. Or for a all nighter n next day er do 100mg of one the first night n the other night. With intraanasal all the euphoria and rush comes in those first 4 or 5 lines. Vape on foil im still missibg a llt of smkke but after a few real heavy n hits im not getting anywhere v ack to that level of blism
 
it can be made as crystals which are tan or the powder which is white. powder is said to be less powerful. hear that this compound can be pretty strong regardless. using evidence from previous postings side effects compared to speed more than coke
 
As far as vaping goes, I always use Hookah Charcoal, never foil or glass bulb. Just drop your RC on the red hot coal; I use the tip of an E-xacto blade; and it is immediately and completely turned to a stream of smoke which I inhale with a glass tube. Works perfectly for the job and the coals are cheap. I usually get 6 pie-shaped pieces of coal out of one round briquette.
 
The crystals are hard to work with unless you're vaporizing it(something I refuse to do after mdpv). A pyrex dish and razor blade.are needed. A good comparison is the lumpy not so dry coke that is really hard to cut up but it is definitely worth the work as long as you're responsible.
 
I gotta say. I have vaped that stuff a shit-ton and the comedown is pretty chill.

sadly the euphoria lasted for me like 30min and was stimmed for max 2-3h.

i prefer a-pvp when I go raving since I vape before I go and feel no urge to redose or only do some small bumps of coke.
 
Female, 205 lb, first time trying alpha PHP ... I insufflated about 10mg of it. It burned like hell and it made me really nauseous for quite a while (which put me into a sour mood). It's very effective in that I feel "up" and "awake" but I don't like that everything around me is irritating me when normally it wouldn't. I have no motivation to do anything, but I'm very up, so basically I'm sitting here bored and getting pissed off. Also feeling jittery. It's not great.
 
any links to binding affinity or more information on the pharmacology of this fine compound? A friend of mine well versed in stimulants has observed a reverse tolerance effect. I've also read of speculation of there being some SE activity? This is probably the last stimulant i am going to try recreational, after years of stimulant abuse i am finding the experience more and more dull especially compared to something like mephedrone, methcathinone or even a classic psychedelic. Is this just my brain burning out or am i actually growing bored of the primary effects being simply euphoria, focus, and sometimes motivation? has this occurred with anyone else?

I feel exactly like the poster above me... i mean i could do something but i don't even feel like doing anything but sitting here and getting frustrated about it. In any case i will be trying a-php soon as i must know how it compares to 3-4 CTMP.
 
This is absolutely my favorite stimulant these days. I have been off hard drugs for a long time (meth and cocaine), but recently I began getting that craving for a good stimulant. Not wanting to turn back to illegal drugs, I looked into the RC market and found a-php. I was skeptical that it would be effective, but it turned out to be amazing. There is very little euphoria, which is important for me after my past addiction to meth. It's just a nice clean stimulation that lasts for hours. I would equate it to having a lot of caffeine without the jitters. I previously posted a negative experience with a-php the first time I used it, because I made a mistake and it made me very, very sick to my stomach. I weighed out what I thought was 10mg on a digital scale without realizing that my scale only measures in hundreds of milligrams, and I insufflated that dose. I'm putting the bad side effects down to taking way too much by accident.

After that I decided to try vaping it in much smaller amounts out of a freebase pipe. It was wonderful. I immediately had a lot of energy and motivation. The only negative I have to say about this is that it seems to be very addictive. The desire to redose is ridiculous. I had only intended to dose a maximum of three times that night over the course of several hours, but I ended up having a 24-hour binge in which I ran through my entire supply. So, if you're considering using a-php, be aware that you'll need a lot of self-control. Maybe even separate out what you're going to use and put the rest away so you won't be tempted, and set a very strict time limit for yourself. I kept it by me and found it impossible after the first two doses to not keep hitting the pipe. I managed to counteract this somewhat by putting the amount of one dose in the pipe and then vaping it gradually over the course of a few hours, instead of hitting it all at once like I did the first few times. That way I was only putting a new bowl in every 4+ hours.

I'm lucky enough that I didn't suffer any of the crazy paranoia that can apparently present on a binge, and I think that's because I was very aware it could happen and made myself go to sleep before that could set in. If you're finding it difficult to sleep, I'd recommend a benzo to calm you down. I have some prescribed to me and 0.5mg of lorazepam does the trick. You'll want benzos on hand anyway in case you accidentally take too much and start to feel jittery and out of control, like I did when I insufflated it. Obviously, if you're having a serious overdose you need to go to the ER right away, but for a minor case of taking too much, a benzo or two should work. I hope this has been helpful and will aid in reducing harm to anyone else who is looking to try this.
 
Without going into my personal experience with this chemical, I'm here to tell/warn you about some properties of this chemical that I couldn't find mentioned in this thread yet, very much to my surprise.

First of all, most of this very likely applies to all the similar ones like a-pvp etc.

The temperatures for the different states of matter are very close to each other and in crystal/powder form only slightly above room temperature. Once molten, the vaporizing temp is below room temperature. How the fuck has nobody noticed this yet?

The complications/proof: Have none of you crushed some of it and then noticed a very thin film on the surface you crushed it on? The heat generated from the pressure from crushing it is enough to melt some of it. You can scrape the surface afterwards and you'll get your powder back.

Ever put some on foil and melted it? Go ahead, keep it off the flame for HOURS and it will eminate a barely visible amount of smoke, only visible when theres no airflor in your room and in front of a black background. The same applies to the brown vapid residues, no matter how dark they are burnt. What ever is left behind and cant be vaporized has a slow chemical reaction with something in the air below room temperature. Is nobody concerned about that brown residue that can't be vaped? If you keep it on the flame until theres no more smoke, its nothing but charcoal. It makes me want to not take this in any other form but vaping, just to avoid this nasty stuff, whatever it is.

I was never high or hallucinating on anything and observed this throughout 3 days. Even the straws used for vaping at some point had smoke coming out of them a day after usage and nowhere near a heat source.

You can try your own batch quite simply: Put your index finger tip in the bag and take out whatever sticks. Rub it against your thumb to generate some heat and hold your finger in front of a dark surface. 5 seconds later I saw very thin, white smoke. Might take a little longer so don't look away after 5 seconds, look at least 30 seconds.

At some point I even saw smoke coming from the folds of my wallet, upon investigation, I noticed very little remains of the powder because apparently I must have put a card back in before cleaning it but oddly enough I don't remember it.

If you do thick and heavy inhales and exhale some smoke aswell, be wary where you exhale it on. The smoke is very thick and wet and solidifies immedietaly on whatever it hits. You can coat your furniture with this stuff.

If your room temperature is 25°C+, I would store it in the refridgerator. Though I don't know how this reacts to colder temps, so do your research first.

If this has already been talked about in here, my apoligies but I thought skimmed every page quickly.

And to just throw in my evaluation of this: I would consider it purely a stimulant that needs tapering for thecomedown and cannot be taken multiple days in a row (sleep deprivation, zero appetite, havent had a single urge to have a smoke ever since my first line and I used to smoke multiple cigs before that day). Residual stimulation keeps you awake many hours into the comedown and even stronly sedative benzos didn't help much. I will never take this stuff again without being off it a for a couple days completely. I'll do more research when I'm positive everything of this is out and I'll be even more careful
 
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Without going into my personal experience with this chemical, I'm here to tell/warn you about some properties of this chemical that I couldn't find mentioned in this thread yet, very much to my surprise.

First of all, most of this very likely applies to all the similar ones like a-pvp etc.

The temperatures for the different states of matter are very close to each other and in crystal/powder form only slightly above room temperature. Once molten, the vaporizing temp is below room temperature. How the fuck has nobody noticed this yet?

The complications/proof: Have none of you crushed some of it and then noticed a very thin film on the surface you crushed it on? The heat generated from the pressure from crushing it is enough to melt some of it. You can scrape the surface afterwards and you'll get your powder back.

Ever put some on foil and melted it? Go ahead, keep it off the flame for HOURS and it will eminate a barely visible amount of smoke, only visible when theres no airflor in your room and in front of a black background. The same applies to the brown vapid residues, no matter how dark they are burnt. What ever is left behind and cant be vaporized has a slow chemical reaction with something in the air below room temperature. Is nobody concerned about that brown residue that can't be vaped? If you keep it on the flame until theres no more smoke, its nothing but charcoal. It makes me want to not take this in any other form but vaping, just to avoid this nasty stuff, whatever it is.

I was never high or hallucinating on anything and observed this throughout 3 days. Even the straws used for vaping at some point had smoke coming out of them a day after usage and nowhere near a heat source.

You can try your own batch quite simply: Put your index finger tip in the bag and take out whatever sticks. Rub it against your thumb to generate some heat and hold your finger in front of a dark surface. 5 seconds later I saw very thin, white smoke. Might take a little longer so don't look away after 5 seconds, look at least 30 seconds.

At some point I even saw smoke coming from the folds of my wallet, upon investigation, I noticed very little remains of the powder because apparently I must have put a card back in before cleaning it but oddly enough I don't remember it.

If you do thick and heavy inhales and exhale some smoke aswell, be wary where you exhale it on. The smoke is very thick and wet and solidifies immedietaly on whatever it hits. You can coat your furniture with this stuff.
Interesting observation, after binges my room would stay foggy for days despite opening windows and airing the place out. I was paranoid as shit thought that the foil was still emitting smoke, realized how paranoid and ridiculous that sounded and figured it was just residual paranoia. Guess i know it wasn't
Good find
 
I'm unwilling to share this on forums like reddit, but since you found BL and are already touching the surface, I feel obliged to inform you:
I know this sounds crazy and it is but when you really binge on it for a while, and sub room temperatures are not required, on some occasions your body it self vaporizes...8o

This is a mesmerizing attribute and still a mystery to most. This is a bonus when you would like to be able to walk through walls and other objects that (under normal circumstances) appear as solids unhindered.

Ofcourse pre-treating target surfaces with exhaled a-php is a good idea, but thread with caution not to give rise to dangerous or unintended situations like permanent states of diffusion.
Usually as a rule of thump, the mist is an indicator of either dosing to frequenty for too long or poor ventilation.

Remember to take a benzo and get some sleep every other day or so.
 
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Most of the following information is available here and there in various posts on different forums, but I thought I would consolidate the information for the sake of convenience, as well as adding my own experience to the mix.

There is no drug out there that is completely safe. However, there are a lot of things you can do to minimize your risk with drug use. I'm going to share the following experience in the hope that others will use the information for harm reduction. I did a lot of research before doing this, and it wasn't my first time using alpha-PHP, so please keep that in mind.

For a beginner the most important thing is an allergy test. You should also do one for every single batch of anything you receive, because you never know if your vendor/dealer has given you a different product than before. It may be cut with something or be an entirely different substance altogether that was sold to you by accident or intentionally.

To do an allergy test, take a very, very small amount of whatever it is you're using (in the case of a-PHP I would suggest between 1-5mg at most) and either insufflate it or put it on your tongue, though I must warn you it tastes foul. Wait several hours to make sure you don't have a negative reaction.

Once you're certain you're not allergic, the next step is to figure out the ideal dose and route of administration (ROA). I would not under any circumstances recommend IVing this, even if that's your usual gig. There's not enough known yet about the toxicity of this compound and how much damage it could do to your veins. Some people plug it, some people insufflate it (though it's said to be very harsh on the nose and even likely to cause tissue damage with prolonged used).

My personal method is to vaporize it using an oil burner, also called a freebase pipe but most popularly known as a meth pipe. You could use the dull side of tin foil if you're broke or can't get your hands on proper glassware, but again I wouldn't recommend it. It's too easy to burn and trying to vape it off foil would likely be very wasteful unless you're extremely skilled in this method. Another thing to bear in mind, never use the shiny side of foil. EVER.

Now for dosage ... You need to know your body weight and level of experience with stimulant compounds. The easiest way is to convert your body weight to kg and go from there. If you're not a math whiz, just Google "lb to kg" and a handy calculator will pop up. For a beginner with no stim tolerance or no experience I would recommend using no more than 0.1-0.2mg/kg of body weight.

This is where an accurate milligram scale comes in handy. Don't use one that only measures to 0.1g accuracy. You need AT LEAST 0.01 accuracy, but 0.001 is ideal. They're cheap if you look on eBay, so there's no excuse for not having one if you value your safety.

For someone with experience, but not a regular user, I would recommend the 0.3-0.5mg/kg range. This is what I use, and I've never had a problem. For a heavy user (and I don't recommend this for several reasons) you can go up to 0.8mg/kg. I would advise extreme caution though since so little is known about this substance, and if used too much, too quickly, or too often, it could prove to be very cardiotoxic.

You need to remember to eat, even though the idea will be very unappealing, and you must drink lots of water so you don't get dehydrated. This is important. You should also check your pulse regularly. I usually check mine twice an hour to make sure my heart rate hasn't elevated beyond an acceptable range. The average resting heart rate for an adult is between 60 to 100 beats per minute.

This can be figured by taking your pulse for 15 seconds (I use the timer on my cell phone) and then multiplying the number of beats by four. I find that my pulse tends to stay between 96-100 beats per minute on a-PHP, with a maximum reading of 104 in my sessions. You need to know what the healthy heart rate is for your age. You can find calculators for that online. To find your maxium heart rate, subtract your age from 220. I would advise you to never let your heart rate get anywhere near your maximum. If it does, you need to call 911.

Now you know dosage, ROA, heart rate, and a few other safety precautions. One more thing you need to watch out for is vasoconstriction. Most stimulants cause them to some degree, some worse than others. I only get mild vasoconstriction, even though I also smoke and nicotine is a vasoconstrictor, but some people get it bad. This is where a vasodilator comes in handy. There are all kinds of guides around about vasodilators, and you should familiarize yourself with them and keep something handy in case you need it.

My remedy of choice is a very small amount of 80 proof (40 percent) vodka, around 1/2 shotglass. Be careful you do not take alcohol in large amounts when using stimulants. Not only is this very bad for your organs, but it can actually INCREASE vasoconstriction. A lot of people seem to prefer cayenne pepper for their vasodilator.

I cannot stress enough that you need to be careful with how often you take this stuff. I wait two hours between each dose because I know that's what works for me. If you don't have experience with this compound already, wait longer. Safe trumps dead every time. While I don't condone binging, I understand that it's going to happen, so my advice is to give yourself a strict time limit if you're planning on a binge. Please don't binge for longer than 24 hours or you will likely have some very negative consequences.

If you're naturally prone to anxiety or have a history of getting anxious and/or paranoid while using drugs, then you should keep some benzos on hand. If misused, a-PHP will turn you into an anxious mess. Benzos will help with that and also help with the comedown if you're having trouble sleeping.

I'm not going to go into any great depth with ROAs other than vaporizing. To vaporize a-PHP, place the amount you're going to use into a clean, dry, glass pipe (I find using a plastic straw that's been cut at an angle useful). GENTLY heat the ball of the pipe using a lighter until the drug begins to melt into a clear puddle. DO NOT let the flame touch the glass!!!

DO NOT keep a lighter lit for longer than 10 seconds. It's very, very dangerous, not to mention you could burn yourself. I keep a torch lighter and a minimum of 4 regular BIC lighters on hand for this very reason. The fastest, easiest way is to do the initial melting with the torch lighter (AT LEAST one inch below the glass). Then switch to a regular lighter to heat it up further, and as you're doing so, begin to gently tilt the pipe side to side until you see vapor beginning to swirl.

Inhale gently while continuously swirling the pipe. I switch lighters after every inhale to avoid breaking the 10 second rule (and also because I value my fingers). So be smart, okay? A helpful tip is to make sure your ceiling fans are turned off and that you're not sitting under an A/C vent. Ideally the air around you should be still so the flame won't be battered every which way, thus reducing your risk of burning yourself or your drugs.

I hope this has been helpful and that everyone will heed the warnings I have given.
 
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. I was never high or hallucinating on anything and observed this throughout 3 days. Even the straws used for vaping at some point had smoke coming out of them a day after usage and nowhere near a heat source.

I suspect this whole paragraph is a great oxy moron, simply because after some fairly extensive research of my own, and a few nights of INTENSELY compulsive dosing with this substance, I have repeatedly experienced visual hallucinations. A couple of times I pulled my car over because I was convinced the cabin was filling with smoke or vapor of some sort. (Yes, I realize how irresponsible it is to drive under the influence of any substance. EXCUUUUUSE ME!) Turned out not to be real. The visual hallucinations seem to manifest as an ever present smoke or vapor.

This is stuff sticks around in your system for a long time. My last session compulsively stretched on for hours in the bathroom with the ventilation fan running. I actually have no idea how long I was in there in a continuous vaping session. I hallucinated that my brother and his girlfriend were outside the bathroom door begging me to come out, but it turns out they were gone the whole night. For days after, whenever the air conditioning would turn on, the humming of the fan sound like strange ethereal music.

Two days after this vaping session, I was afflicted with the most terrible panic attacks I've ever experienced. I was out of etizolam at this point, and could barely manage it. This lasted for two whole days and lingered for three after that. I almost checked myself into the ER at one point because I was convinced I was going to die.

I strongly suspect the smoke you are seeing is actually a lingering hallucination. I don't think smoke would be really lingering a day after vaping, and I've experienced smoke like hallucinations from aphp many times.
 
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