So your saying I have to hit rock bottom first before I can be helped. Again I disagree with that, people decide to quit/moderate/reduce usage at all points of an addiction/habit.
Don't get me wrong, the 12 steps work great for some. I am so glad that they have worked for you. For me they don't. I've been to over 60 meetings (forced by rehab) and felt like I was trapped in a cult metting the whole time, I found very little of value besides listening to the stories.
The thing that really pisses me off is the federal/state support of AA/NA. The US is the only country that forces people to go to meetings. AA is making a killing off of this. We need to take a rational approach to recovery. AA is not rational for everybody. Frankly, the fact that people would tell me if I had a drink again I would die pissed me off and sounded so childish. I was drinking to much, I needed to take a break and get my head straight and learn to moderate my usage which I have. Do I fuck up once and awhile? Sure, but so does everyone else.
Hopefully soon we begin to adopt a model based on the European response to addiction.
Anyways this thread is about Alcoholism, not the 12 steps. Lets get back on topic.
Don't get me wrong, the 12 steps work great for some. I am so glad that they have worked for you. For me they don't. I've been to over 60 meetings (forced by rehab) and felt like I was trapped in a cult metting the whole time, I found very little of value besides listening to the stories.
The thing that really pisses me off is the federal/state support of AA/NA. The US is the only country that forces people to go to meetings. AA is making a killing off of this. We need to take a rational approach to recovery. AA is not rational for everybody. Frankly, the fact that people would tell me if I had a drink again I would die pissed me off and sounded so childish. I was drinking to much, I needed to take a break and get my head straight and learn to moderate my usage which I have. Do I fuck up once and awhile? Sure, but so does everyone else.
Hopefully soon we begin to adopt a model based on the European response to addiction.
Anyways this thread is about Alcoholism, not the 12 steps. Lets get back on topic.
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