closeau
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I agree. I think stopping slowly one begins to see the fruits of not drinking and hopefully stops completley. Youre right Captain, progress not perfection!!!
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Glitter_kiss - you may want to see a doctor. I know towards the end of my drinking days consuming anything was terribly painful and would usually make me vomit. I was also vomiting blood. My drinking made my stomach and esophagus raw, and I was continually irritating it. The issue just got worse until I quit drinking. i was lucky and it wasn't anything serious. A close friend who drank more than me regularly had similar issues, and he ended up having late stage esophageal cancer, and di d within a year of diagnosis. I'm not saying this to scare you, just making the point it could be nothing or it could be something major - please get it checked out by a professional. You don't want to leave your health to strangers on an Internet forum making guesses 
Good luck!
Good luck!closeau
Bluelighter
Good point and i agree. I got lucky and didnt get cancer but the whiskey had ate from my mouth all the way down to my tummy. Everything was inflamed and swollen. I couldnt eat or drink and i would throw up blood. I went to Dr and sure enough he confirmed my fears. I had to drink this special drink and nothing else. God im glad im sober now!!!!
PriestTheyCalledHim
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That's what I did with alcohol.
I went from drinking daily for half a year to cutting back to binge drinking on weekends only mainly on a Friday night or sometimes Saturday, and while on vacation, at a party, or at a bar on the weekend with friends.
Or instead of drinking I would smoke the firemost nugs alone or with friends.
Looking back I'm not sure if this was the best thing to do? But at least I did stop drinking daily, and I eventually quit alcohol and cannabis and everything else altogether.
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Because of the kindling nature of alcohol, I think it's actually safer to drink daily than to have binge sessions. I believe my alcoholism progressed at a much quicker rate because I was a weekend binger, that eventually progressed to every other day, and then daily. I noticed when I transitioned to daily in lieu of every other day, I stopped having black outs and siezures (while drinking, not withdrawal), and my bloodwork actually improved. Either way, alcohol is a hell of a drug, and so difficult to quit once you're in its grip. Kudos for being able to quit, I know how difficult that is.
closeau
Bluelighter
Its hardest thing ive ever done. Rehab twice and 10 yrs in AA and really only in last couple years i got it. It consumed my life since i was 13 and sobered up at 38. I have an ostomy bag for life bc of the infection alcohol caused in my colon so they had to take it out. It cost be dozens of relationships and an engagement. She was a beautiful woman and i would be married in our house right now instead of being in a crappy lofy with bag. But these are reasons never to go back. I think its its the toughest drug to kick. Youre right, kudos to anybody who does. Take care yall
samm2
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Glitter_kiss - you may want to see a doctor. I know towards the end of my drinking days consuming anything was terribly painful and would usually make me vomit. I was also vomiting blood. My drinking made my stomach and esophagus raw, and I was continually irritating it. The issue just got worse until I quit drinking. i was lucky and it wasn't anything serious. A close friend who drank more than me regularly had similar issues, and he ended up having late stage esophageal cancer, and di d within a year of diagnosis. I'm not saying this to scare you, just making the point it could be nothing or it could be something major - please get it checked out by a professional. You don't want to leave your health to strangers on an Internet forum making guesses
A FOAF (who loved his vodka) had esophagal carcinoma also and visiting him in the hospital was no joy. Looked like a concentration camp victim (so skinny). I asked him what/how it started, said he couldn't even drink water. I knew him years before and knew he always was a pretty heavy drinker He unfortunately died. The friend of his who I knew better(went to grade school with him,his dad knew my dad) also had a tube put directly into his stomach a while before whereby he had to feed himself with a liquid diet. I heard(didn't see) he also poured liquor into funnel. But he also contracted some cancer later and he died also. Don't know exactly what killed him, his dad said the cancer, but he stayed drunk alot(hardcore) as much as possible and smoked cigarettes.
RIP Allen
RIP John
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closeau
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Sorry for your losses samm2. Drinking has taken 3 friends of mine. No matter what it is its a slow, awful death. I was close myselk, pre cirrosis, throat and stomach problems. Shit hurts. Ive since recovered but like i mentioned i have no colon and this wonderful ostomy that leaked all over me anf floor. If anyone is out there with symptoms, please get checked out and try to get sober. It just aint worth it man. Trust me, i know!!!
samm2
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I suspect my one closer friend was also taking prescription pain meds also and think they possibly had something to do with him dying as he died rather suddenly. No real forewarning. As matter of fact he said he was only drinking 3 drinks a day last I talked to him(which was not that close to when he died,he died like 6 months later) and even was going to AA. He felt like a hypocrite going going to AA because he wasn't totally abstinent so stopped going. His mother also died early from alcohol and his uncle also had drinking problems.(didn't know him though) His father didn't drink though.
Maybe this is why the French among others drink wine with their meals rather than on an empty stomach? Possibly to help protect their canal membranes? Maybe they've learned through time what works and what doesn't? Just wondering anyway.
Maybe this is why the French among others drink wine with their meals rather than on an empty stomach? Possibly to help protect their canal membranes? Maybe they've learned through time what works and what doesn't? Just wondering anyway.
closeau
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Thats possible. The French seem to know a lot. That happened to me in AA. I was deep in it too but was on pain meds for chronic pain and would occasionally double dose and felt like a hypocryte. Those days are gone but i can relate
I completely agree. I can think if so many times I knew I was doing stupid stuff and was able to explain it while drunk. Also, the importance of owning up to what you are doing to people can have an impact (no more no less) than a 12 step program. Talking to the people you have hurt and damaged face-to-face brings things around quite quick.
closeau
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True brad333. Face to face amends will bring some spirituality to your ass real quick. I think no matter what program or whatever your in, when you start to see the hurt your drinking has caused, usually thats enough for most people to stop. Was for me big time. And even thugh its been years since i got drunk and hurt somebody, my people treat me like it was yesterday. I think Al-Anon is underrated. Most dont go cause the usual, i dont have a prooblem why should i go to meetings and work steps. My family dabbled but didnt go and struggle. Meanwhile im fine. Ive done my part and found my peace. So yes, face to face shit is powerful.
SergeKolpa
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Hi people, i am new to the website so please the creator of this thread correct me if I do something wrong.
The thread told that it is purely about alcoholism and for all of the alcoholism topics. What if I believe in moderation in 50% of the cases and complete sobriety in the other 50% of cases. Is this thread for me?
When you say "triggering" do you mean that only total sobriety is supported by the thread?
The thread told that it is purely about alcoholism and for all of the alcoholism topics. What if I believe in moderation in 50% of the cases and complete sobriety in the other 50% of cases. Is this thread for me?
When you say "triggering" do you mean that only total sobriety is supported by the thread?
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Hi Serge - you're welcome to participate in this thread. Some alcoholics I know are able to moderate their drinking to some degree, and some are not. I think the definition of alcoholism means different things to different people. I personally have to abstain or it requires a stay in rehab in order for me to stop drinking, but I have friends who drink a 12 pack of beer a night and seem to lead a functional life. I consider them alcoholics because of the devestating effects of heavy drinking on health in general, and people who are not alcoholics aren't compelled to frequently drink in those quantities or drink tot he detriment of their health. There are also several subcategories of alcoholics - i.e. the binge drinker, the daily drinking, the all day drinker, etc lol.
The term triggering refers to posting content that can glorify, glamorize, or otherwise encourage people to either crave booze or go out and drink. This also includes photos, etc.
So what is on your mind?
SergeKolpa
Bluelighter
Erm... we just have to disagree on this one :D Alcoholics are normal people. Some choose total sobriety, some might find another way, others will die from it if they don't become totally sober. I am personally in favor of gray tones not only black and white tones, however if one must stop 100% the one must not use any excuses and stop 100%.
If it were truly black and white the what has worked for one alcoholic would work for us all, and that is not the case.