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^^ Where do you live that it's too dangerous to run outside - If you don't mind the inquiry?

And to SilverFeniks - Opiates and alcohol both trigger some of the same neurotransmitters in the brain, which means doing opiates is preventing your brain from getting past cravings for alcohol, just so you know.
 
caseface99 said:
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And to SilverFeniks - Opiates and alcohol both trigger some of the same neurotransmitters in the brain, which means doing opiates is preventing your brain from getting past cravings for alcohol, just so you know.
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Hmm, did not know that. Tho in my case i am not experiencing this as much; for unexplained reasons, the last month or so I've finally started getting on top of my alcohol/cannabis use/dependence. My love of a quality brew notwithstanding, alcohol has never been my drug of choice, just one that became compulsive thanks to general addiction and availability.

Still having those stabbing cravings, but I successfully walked past the beer aisle @ the grocer today. 1 full week of no alcohol, aided primarily by running & car troubles. Not sleeping well but waking up tired still beats the dehydration/hangover I get from even minor drinking.
 
gerry978 said:
I was a high functioning alcoholic who became not too functional but continued to pretend I was. There was no one thing that led me to wake up but an accumulation: job suffering, relationship stress, some medical issues (nothing serious), feeling sick every morning.
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This is me. I'm going to try and quit drinking pretty much altogether. It can cause me to have psyhcotic episodes too in large doses and I don't think I want that to happen again. I'm bipolar and when I'm manic I can consume massive amounts of alcohol before it catches up with me. If it doesn't catch up with me I end up a wide awake and agitated drunk with low blood sugar and not enough sleep. Done some pretty wild things that don't even make sense the next day. Glad I'm not dead\in jail. I would say I need to quit while I'm ahead but I'm already pretty far behind. For those of you with mental illness alcohol probably isn't the best drug. I lied to myself about this for years.

I'm in total shock that I let a relatively boring drug take over my life.
 
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Yes I can.

My son in law gets obliterated every night.

My daughter misses the person he was before he started drinking so much.

They fight over his drinking constantly.

My grandson is being traumatized by their fighting.

I babysit for them so my daughter tells me stuff every day about my son in law that kills me
because I adore the baby so much.

And I love my daughter.<3

I do not understand the drama and the violence at all.8(

I have never been in a fight.

I phuckin hate drama.
 
ugly said:
I am not an alcoholic.

I have never been in a fight.

I phuckin hate drama.
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yeah, riiiiight this is coming from somebody like yourself who is addicted to meth. Don't judge an alcoholic or another addict...least you be judged.
 
^^Agreed - I think we can all agree that some people can handle their shit and some people cannot, and that applies to any drug. Yeah, someone with an active meth addiction who hates drama? *glares*

I was debating on whether to post this... fuck it.

I am 5 days sober. I got sober this time because my boyfriend - now estranged boyfriend - said if I kept drinking and taking Adderall, he'd keep gambling to the point he'd have to borrow money from me and abusing Adderall to work overtime to pay me back. I walked out of his apartment, not drunk or high... and I stayed that way. I later called him and told him I wanted to get better, but that it was for me and not him and that he is no longer allowed to play codependent games with me.

I went to AA on the advice of a friend. And I walked out feeling less like shit than I have in a long time. Although my Adderall is prescribed, taking it with alcohol is such a no-go for ANYONE who wants to, well, not lose their shit. I don't miss it much at all. I've now been to 3 meetings, all coed, every age imaginable, no creeps or people panhandling like the meeting I went to in Berkeley. CaseFace - I hope you don't go to the meeting I did. I was terrified to go back and rightfully so.

Anyone who's known me in TDS awhile knows that I have strong criticisms of the 12-step program. But maybe I really AM powerless over alcohol. I can sustain periods of sobriety for awhile, but when the shit really hits the fan like it has been for me lately, I run right to the bottle. And I want to get rid of that. I have now met a good number of people who want me to participate in a program that has helped a lot of them. I am still struggling with the idea of not smoking medicinal herb anymore, but I am not struggling with not drinking as much as I thought I would. I don't need dogma to tell me I can't drink like a normal person. Rather than pooh-poohing these people who have the same problem as I do and have felt the same pressures that I have, I'm instead allowing myself to keep an open mind.

The holding strangers' hands in a circle is a little unnerving but I cannot isolate myself and drink my problems away as I usually do. Whether AA is the answer or not, I refuse to continue living that way. What is better for me overall - going to a room to talk to people in the hope we all get better or to take a drink and face adverse consequences?
 
I used to be a heavy drinker up to until last Dec where I took too much mdma and fucked myself up big time. I can't drink alcohol in excess like I used to as it makes my symptom worse.
 
Mariposa said:
^^Agreed - I think we can all agree that some people can handle their shit and some people cannot, and that applies to any drug. Yeah, someone with an active meth addiction who hates drama? *glares*

I was debating on whether to post this... fuck it.

I am 5 days sober. I got sober this time because my boyfriend - now estranged boyfriend - said if I kept drinking and taking Adderall, he'd keep gambling to the point he'd have to borrow money from me and abusing Adderall to work overtime to pay me back. I walked out of his apartment, not drunk or high... and I stayed that way. I later called him and told him I wanted to get better, but that it was for me and not him and that he is no longer allowed to play codependent games with me.

I went to AA on the advice of a friend. And I walked out feeling less like shit than I have in a long time. Although my Adderall is prescribed, taking it with alcohol is such a no-go for ANYONE who wants to, well, not lose their shit. I don't miss it much at all. I've now been to 3 meetings, all coed, every age imaginable, no creeps or people panhandling like the meeting I went to in Berkeley. CaseFace - I hope you don't go to the meeting I did. I was terrified to go back and rightfully so.

Anyone who's known me in TDS awhile knows that I have strong criticisms of the 12-step program. But maybe I really AM powerless over alcohol. I can sustain periods of sobriety for awhile, but when the shit really hits the fan like it has been for me lately, I run right to the bottle. And I want to get rid of that. I have now met a good number of people who want me to participate in a program that has helped a lot of them. I am still struggling with the idea of not smoking medicinal herb anymore, but I am not struggling with not drinking as much as I thought I would. I don't need dogma to tell me I can't drink like a normal person. Rather than pooh-poohing these people who have the same problem as I do and have felt the same pressures that I have, I'm instead allowing myself to keep an open mind.

The holding strangers' hands in a circle is a little unnerving but I cannot isolate myself and drink my problems away as I usually do. Whether AA is the answer or not, I refuse to continue living that way. What is better for me overall - going to a room to talk to people in the hope we all get better or to take a drink and face adverse consequences?
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I'm so glad you gave meetings a chance! Even more glad that it made you feel a bit better! I don't think I've been to the meeting you talked about, all of the ones I've been to in the East Bay so far have been pretty decent.

If you have an qualms about 12 step other than powerlessness - shoot me a PM. I won't preach, but would love to clear up any concerns, myths, questions, etc. I'm assuming "God" is an issue - correct me if I'm wrong. It was an issue for me as well, kept me from going to meetings/working the steps for years. Then I read the part where it says "as we understand him" (him is implicating.. but i guess I got past the wording). If you really can't get past the wording of the steps, look up the Buddhist/non-theist 12 steps, and or the Spiral Steps. Worded differently but you get the exact same thing out of working each one. You don't need a judeo christian god, not even close.

Good luck! :)
 
Hi everyone,

Figured I'd quit lurking and start actively posting. I'm 12 days sober after a 9 day bender from hell that landed me in the ER. That was one hell of a a wake up call. I can't ever drink again. I'd been half assing my sobriety and I paid the price... Not sure what else to say ATM other than to wish everyone a happy sober day.
 
I went to my first Al-Anon meeting last week. I guess it is best to attend six meetings before deciding if it's right for me, so I'm not going to give my opinion about it until I have attending six meetings.

I would be happy to read whatever anyone else has experienced with the Al-Anon program.
 
Grassfed - Welcome! I'm happy you decided to start participating! This forum is a great source of information and support. :) Have you considered, or tried AA in the past? If not maybe think about giving it a shot; if not AA then maybe Smart Recovery or LifeRing (both are non-12 step support groups). Meetings have made such a large difference In my recovery it's incredible.. Stay strong! <3

ugly - I haven't attended Al-Anon, but I know people who do and they say it makes such a huge difference in their lives and their mental/emotional well being. Also, I do attend AA and work the 12 steps which are the same in Al-Anon, and I honestly think EVERYONE should work these steps! Not just addicts and their family members! It's incredible what something so simple can do for you! I wish you the best! Please check back and let us know how the meetings work for you. :)
 
I haven't had a drink in about 20 months now :)

It feels really good, I never thought this would be possible. I drank alcoholically since I was in my teens and couldn't imagine my life without it, but with some work it has become a reality. I still use other substances and will continue to do so, I'm just going to leave the booze behind me. It did nothing but cause me pain, emotionally and physically. I'm not really a meeting kind of guy but I do go occasionally, I just can't relate very well to the people there. The majority of them want to view all drugs as being "evil" and I just don't agree with that, whatsoever. But if it helps some people, then good for them.

I just try and spend my time with people that aren't drinking, even after being away from it for so long it still makes me kind of uncomfortable watching people get drunk. I suppose it probably always will to some degree. I guess it makes me sort of jealous because I can't partake as well, but then I just think about how it used to be and I'm alright. I'm much happier than I once was and I wouldn't want to give that up. Well good luck everyone, I wish you the best.
 
Congrats, Bahamut. :) Please remember to try to be careful with the other substances though. While it's definitely possible to do something in moderation, it also can be easy to swap out one addiction for another. Be aware and take care of yourself. <3
 
i lost my script for librium, it was just written a couple days ago, would i need to go back to the hospital or if i go to a pharm would they be able to call and verify it
 
glitter_kiss said:
i lost my script for librium, it was just written a couple days ago, would i need to go back to the hospital or if i go to a pharm would they be able to call and verify it
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Contact your doctor ASAP to tell them what happened and see what they can do <3
 
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