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AL-LAD Now available in UK

knock said:
Update 5 hours later,

still tripping very mildly. It's very close to LSD in visuals but there was very little confusion, it seemed very gentle really compared to LSD. No mindfuck. Plenty scope for introspective thinking and thinking generally, but very easy. More visual. Very humorous, I laughed all the way through a two-hour film. And after.

It's a winner =D

edit: I'd actually give this to my 81 year old Dad, I thought that several times during the trip, he would cope with it fine!
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Knock when u say it's 'gentle' and no 'mindfuck' I presumer you mean it doesn't cause anxiety / paranoia?.. I've never taken :SD the only trippy drug I've taken is mushrooms but not in 6/7 years if my timeline is correct..I took mushrooms maybe about 6 times altogether and the first four times when I was younger like 20-22 I really enjoyed them but the last 2 times I took them I had very bad trips, both of those times were after I had some serious panic attacks - it seems to be the times I took mushrooms after I had anxiety/panic attacks I didn't enjoy them at all whereas when I was younger I did enjoy them.. My mind is more settled now though and my general anxiety levels are much lower than they were when I had the bad trips..

.. I'd really like top try a psychedelic type drug again but I'm not sure if it's worth the risk of a bad trip.. How long does this particular drug last for?

.. Also has anyone got experience doing LSD/Mushrooms (or even this new AL-LAD) with smack? I'm sure it must take the edge off and give a good trip?
 
knock said:
Update 5 hours later,

still tripping very mildly. It's very close to LSD in visuals but there was very little confusion, it seemed very gentle really compared to LSD. No mindfuck. Plenty scope for introspective thinking and thinking generally, but very easy. More visual. Very humorous, I laughed all the way through a two-hour film. And after.

It's a winner =D

edit: I'd actually give this to my 81 year old Dad, I thought that several times during the trip, he would cope with it fine!
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to me...that sounds an awful lot like my experiences of 25I-NBOME.....then again I've never tried acid...
 
opiaterock said:
.. Also has anyone got experience doing LSD/Mushrooms (or even this new AL-LAD) with smack? I'm sure it must take the edge off and give a good trip?
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You'd have to up the dose to counter-act the opiate which is likely to deaden the effects of the trip regardless. I'd advise against it. If you're anxious &/or nervous prior to tripping, I'd advise not to trip, or to dose low & slow! But, if you're nervous & determined to trip, I'd recomend some mild anti-anxiety drug necked in the hours before the trip. Try to leave it a few hours, so that the effects of the tranquiliser have eased a bit, then dose the psychedelic. A few mg's of Diaz, half an Eti or a single dose of Pyrazolam would probably do the trick.

This is proper stuff, & if your head ain't straight, or you lack the balls to deal with the effects of tripping with an unstraight head, things could get tricky! New trippers should really be very cautious around any psychedelic & try to play it say with light compounds & conservative dosing. Better to be disapointed than have a bad one in my opinion...

Best of luck, take care!
 
Si Ingwe said:
You'd have to up the dose to counter-act the opiate which is likely to deaden the effects of the trip regardless. I'd advise against it. If you're anxious &/or nervous prior to tripping, I'd advise not to trip, or to dose low & slow! But, if you're nervous & determined to trip, I'd recomend some mild anti-anxiety drug necked in the hours before the trip. Try to leave it a few hours, so that the effects of the tranquiliser have eased a bit, then dose the psychedelic. A few mg's of Diaz, half an Eti or a single dose of Pyrazolam would probably do the trick.

This is proper stuff, & if your head ain't straight, or you lack the balls to deal with the effects of tripping with an unstraight head, things could get tricky! New trippers should really be very cautious around any psychedelic & try to play it say with light compounds & conservative dosing. Better to be disapointed than have a bad one in my opinion...

Best of luck, take care!
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I don't think benzos would do anything to calm me if i was taking a bad trip though!!... and I don't think it's a 'lack of balls' psychedilics just don't agree with some people. But you're totally right, better to be safe than have a bad one! Think I'll give this one a miss guys :(

Take it easy tripping out there!
 
opiaterock said:
Knock when u say it's 'gentle' and no 'mindfuck' I presumer you mean it doesn't cause anxiety / paranoia?.. I've never taken :SD the only trippy drug I've taken is mushrooms but not in 6/7 years if my timeline is correct..I took mushrooms maybe about 6 times altogether and the first four times when I was younger like 20-22 I really enjoyed them but the last 2 times I took them I had very bad trips, both of those times were after I had some serious panic attacks - it seems to be the times I took mushrooms after I had anxiety/panic attacks I didn't enjoy them at all whereas when I was younger I did enjoy them.. My mind is more settled now though and my general anxiety levels are much lower than they were when I had the bad trips..

.. I'd really like top try a psychedelic type drug again but I'm not sure if it's worth the risk of a bad trip.. How long does this particular drug last for?

.. Also has anyone got experience doing LSD/Mushrooms (or even this new AL-LAD) with smack? I'm sure it must take the edge off and give a good trip?
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Mushrooms are quite different to AL-LAD. There are elements of cross over, but AL is much more stimulating, and much more visual. Mushies are pretty much all in the head, whereas with the AL, there is a bit of the mind stuff but you can dip in and out of it and almost control it at will. AL goes on for a long time compared to mushrooms, and I suspect that it could get overwhelming at times during the peak for some people. The peak is somewhere around 3-4 hours, and it gets stronger slice by slice and weaker slice by slice, every time you think you're 'down' and not tripping anymore the walls start melting and getting covered in hieroglyphics and you're at it again.

That said, i'm a pretty bad tripper, and I had an awesome time on it. I just probably wouldn't bother to do it again. If I were you I would keep some benzos around for comfort, because if shit starts to go south you can just neck a load of those and mute it out, perhaps even sleep. A beer on the come up also helps me quite a bit. Do it while it's sunny because this drug needs to be taken outside. If anything is going wrong, or you're getting a little worried inside, going outside completely frees you. Just whack some sun glasses on and walk around with your friends grinning like a cunt, and go and sit in a park or something.

Have you tried 2cb? I would get well acquainted with that at various doses before going onto AL.
 
Si Ingwe said:
This is proper stuff, & if your head ain't straight, or you lack the balls to deal with the effects of tripping with an unstraight head, things could get tricky! New trippers should really be very cautious around any psychedelic & try to play it say with light compounds & conservative dosing. Better to be disapointed than have a bad one in my opinion...
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I think it's this mindset that often causes bad trips tbh.
 
Si Ingwe said:
This is proper stuff, & if your head ain't straight, or you lack the balls to deal with the effects of tripping with an unstraight head, things could get tricky! New trippers should really be very cautious around any psychedelic & try to play it say with light compounds & conservative dosing. Better to be disapointed than have a bad one in my opinion...!
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I totally agree. As much as everyone's experiences seem to be positive (mine included) don't underestimate this one. Treat it like every other trip. There was a moment during my trip where, for some god forsaken reason, in my mind I was telling myself this is too positive and too good. I started to think negative thoughts and then the visuals on my ceiling turned slightly sinister. I started to go in a negative loop. Wasn't long at all though thenhen for around 10 seconds or so I had a wave of panic flow through me. I just took some deep breaths, changed the track on my playlist, focused on a pleasant thought and that was that, it was all spectacular again.

I definitely need to treat this one with respect but granted I would say it's easier to handle than where acid can go slightly wrong.

^ PTCH agree with this as well.
 
I find that as i have got older i cant handle as much as i used to. Yes its been over 20 years since i had some lsd but i dont remember the come up being uncomfortable all those years ago. I seem to get just so much more bodyload these days. The al-lad wasnt too bad but 25b-nbome at 1.25mg had me writhing on the floor for quite a while i wont ever repeat that experience.
 
Had minor troubles with two of the al-lad vendors. Nothing major, no dishonesty just awkward and poor communications.

CBA to contact them again, i'm not desperate enough to bend over backwards to give people my money. So...meh
 
parttime crackhead said:
I think it's this mindset that often causes bad trips tbh.
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Of course is it, what else should? Btw, in my experience, taking an opioid compound after a psychedelic, greatly decreases the effects of the latter. I've taken some Tilidine at the tail end of my last LSD experience and it totally cancelled out it's effect almost instantly as the opioid buzz became more apparent.

Will try this AL-LAD soon in the near future. Sounds simply too good to not have a look at :D
 
I just want to want to say that 1.5 ( I think? Might have been more.) of these beautys proved to be a little more than I bargained for; wasn't exactly the best set or setting, after filling my head with 240mg MXE ("layered") a couple of mg etiziolam was supposed to send me to sleep. Hell no it just gave the me confidence to munch more drugs. So I munched AL-LAD. Despite "knowing" that "benzos would kill the trip".

And did they fuck kill it! The floor beneath me disappeared and the voices of the damned in hell seemed to call me to jump into the Abyss! I could snap out of it easily enough and be in full control for at least 3 tenths of a second at a time. It was actually fun, except I'd gone completely insane. Mission Accomplished! Bring the Boys Back Home!

Somehow I must have benzoed myself to sleep, either the first dose kicked in properly or I somehow managed to eat more, as I just woke up, still tripping. I have propped an empty hot water bottle over a toilet roll stand (you know, the ones that are just a vertical rod) in my bathroom to form a kind of ad-hoc flag, maybe it was to signal my submission to the forces of AL-LAD? I don't know, but those forces do seem fucking powerful when you step up the dose. Exponentially so.

Still no bodyload whatsoever but I can't comment on the mindfuck, there was, sadly, not a lot of mind involved in the experience. This is, apparently, what happens when I spend the afternoon at my parents.

How not to do drugs, by Knock, 3rd Edition.
 
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It's not the right time atm, but i want to try these. I have only taken LSD once, and it was the..............i can't describe in words............i never felt in my life such understanding of other peoples lives, i did not feel i was capable of feeling so happy, yes happy.....for those few hours my brain had been cleansed, i could feel it, like an oversised rubix cube, taken out the top of my head and rearranged. It was the best drug experience i have ever encountered. Happiness does exist. Our minds have so much to offer.

Nearly all illegal drugs i have been given, or shared. y'know, get in with the wrong crowd, apart from a pot smoking phase.
 
knock said:
I just want to want to say that 1.5 ( I think? Might have been more.) of these beautys proved to be a little more than I bargained for; wasn't exactly the best set or setting, after filling my head with 240mg MXE ("layered") a couple of mg etiziolam was supposed to send me to sleep. Hell no it just gave the me confidence to munch more drugs. So I munched AL-LAD. Despite "knowing" that "benzos would kill the trip".

And did they fuck kill it! The floor beneath me disappeared and the voices of the damned in hell seemed to call me to jump into the Abyss! I could snap out of it easily enough and be in full control for at least 3 tenths of a second at a time. It was actually fun, except I'd gone completely insane. Mission Accomplished! Bring the Boys Back Home!

Somehow I must have benzoed myself to sleep, either the first dose kicked in properly or I somehow managed to eat more, as I just woke up, still tripping. I have propped an empty hot water bottle over a toilet roll stand (you know, the ones that are just a vertical rod) in my bathroom to form a kind of ad-hoc flag, maybe it was to signal my submission to the forces of AL-LAD? I don't know, but those forces do seem fucking powerful when you step up the dose. Exponentially so.

Still no bodyload whatsoever but I can't comment on the mindfuck, there was, sadly, not a lot of mind involved in the experience. This is, apparently, what happens when I spend the afternoon at my parents.

How not to do drugs, By Knock, 3rd Edition.
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Sounds a mad one! Another example where this one is not to be underestimated and taken lightly! A little bit worrying seeing other people's doses etc. Think there is a guy in the PD thread who took 10 tabs! Mental.
 
Just checked and I had in fact consumed two, so 300 mics.

10? Well, with tolerance I can imagine you might need a few, but without it I think 150ug is just right, and if I want to push it again I might add a quarter tab. Not a whole one.
 
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